Even with shitters like LaPierre and company mismanaging it, we need them. They are, at the least...

Even with shitters like LaPierre and company mismanaging it, we need them. They are, at the least, cannon fodder for the grabbers so GOA and SAF can get to the real work. No, the NRA isn't perfect, maybe they're even bad at defending 2A. But they still have the psychological effect of making grabbers have seizures: they think the NRA is this omnipotent, immovable mass that cannot budge, and they hate it.
It's Alinsky 101:
>Power is not only what you have, but what your enemy thinks you have.

Attached: nra_logo.jpg (464x460, 122K)

Other urls found in this thread:

cnn.com/2019/04/26/politics/nra-extortion-pressure-to-resign/index.html
twitter.com/AnonBabble

Good goyim

Never donated and never will. All the way back to the NFA the NRA has been a cuck organization.

>what is Realpolitik

Greetings my fellow gun owners. Just letting you all know that the NRA is pro-gun manufacturer but anti-gun owners. If you give them money you are voting for gun control and capitulation. Give any donation money you may have to small irrelevant advocacy groups, since it is absolutely crucial that the gun community balkanize and purity spiral; since to not do so would be to "le cuck" to the "dems". Remember, no allies is better than blue sky allies. Thanks for your time :^)

yeah, no one has really addressed the massive void that will happen if the NRA collapses. Because I think most people are too lazy to make the jump to other organizations like the GOA. That void is potentially a critical weakness that the anti 2A groups can exploit.

There's a reason Bloomberg and his orcs have such a mad-on for the NRA; I highly doubt that 3/4 of them are even aware that GOA, SAF, etc even exist.
>Rule 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it

Any gun organization is better than the NRA, what give them money so they can promote more gun grabbing legislation? You Fudds are really something

at the same time you are right the NRA is horrible, but gungrabbers fear them nonetheless, and pay no attention to the GOA and SAF allowing them the time to thrive

Now is not the time to purity spiral. If we don't stand together in the coming years, we will all hang. Recognize a divide and conquer campaign.

This is not a purity spiral, the NRA has done nothing for gun rights recently, the NRA recently are the ones hanging us

Oh look. Another NRA thread brought to you by tranny discord.

Attached: socialism.jpg (809x768, 117K)

You dumv boomer piece of shit there would be no need to divide if the NRA wouldn't literally pass gun control and do their fucking job.

>the NRA has done nothing
They got Judge Benitez to open the window for Califriends to buy over a million standard-cap mags in a week.
>the NRA is hanging us
Cory Booker and Kamala will like you. Maybe they'll let you be their butler.

What is it with boomers and endless compromise, are they all fudds or something?

>Im a cuck to Booker and Harris
no, when will you realize both want to take your guns, remember the bumpstock bans, remember the "untraceable" firearms

Yes. They are fucking dumb. They have no perspective or principle

>principle is a bad thing
>Don't you ungrateful kids realize?
>Giving to a big ineffective organization is a good thing
>Who cares if the GOA and SAF are principled?
>They are smaller than the NRA
>and that's bad

Attached: angryboomer.jpg (306x231, 18K)

The thing is, grabbers don't acknowledge the times when the NRA has cucked out. To them, it's Emmanuel Goldstein. It scares the fuck out of them that there are roughly 5 million gun owners who might be opposed to their schemes.
Nowhere have I denied that they have been cucks, they definitely have. But having useful idiots is better than having nobody. How else do you think liberals win so much?
I know they want me dead for thoughtcrime, buddy. They also are chomping at the bit to "take on the NRA". Notice how it's almost never GOA et al they go after.
>t. Member of both and prefer GOA

I agree, the NRA is like a tank (the video game kind)

but also, I still wouldn't want to give them my money

>if the NRA disappears, 80 million people will be disarmed without obstacle!
Also, the NRA is risking its own existence with the way it operates itself and allocates funds, is the discord tranny's plan to convince us not to keep it on life support with our shekels? lewl

Only thing the NRA's tanking is itself with all the money its lining its owners and shills' pockets with (its non-profit status is at risk)

Attached: 1508396553441.jpg (612x612, 36K)

I suppose you're right, I made this , but yep, I can't deny the NRA is ripping itself apart, even if the the NRA distracts, it won't for a long time, as it is on a steep decline that it caused

Nor am I saying you have to, it's your money and you're free to do what you want with it. But if you start actively antagonizing them, you'll be getting a medal from Feinstein.

YES GOYIM FIGHT AMONG YOURSELVES

You know nobody gives a fuck about the GOA, right? If normies dont give money to the NRA, they dont give it to the hipster alternative, they just dont fund. That makes us weak. Same reason if Trump loses 2020 then there will literally never be a blue president ever again, since the GOP cant find common ground over irrelevant wedge issues like fag marriage. Trump wasn't the best candidate, but (like the NRA) he was the best candidate that anybody cared about, so better candidates may have better represented your own views (ie GOA) but they were easily ignored literally whos that have no pull.

My only gripe is that they make most of their money from USA manufacturers and purchasers. They don't give a shit about external markets unless they get a cut. Chinese ban? wgaf. Russian sanctions? wgaf. If they truly gave a shit about the 2nd amendment, they would take it in whole and fight any new sanctions to fight imports. They don't, and they don't care. They realize that they are dying, and the only way to stay relevant is by appeasing to appear "moderate and sensible". Most gun owners are OK with this, and see it as the way of the future. The younger generation don't identify with them, because we are more "extreme", and don't give a fuck about pandering to prolong the inevitable. We welcome any excuse to start ventilating bodies in the name of gun rights.

>shit talk on a Taiwanese air soft forum changes anything
You're the only one stupid enough to want this place for yourself, Jow Forums

You know the only victories have been in the courts, right? Congress under Trump and a GOP majority has achieved more to undermine firearm ownership in two years than 44 did in eight. A vote for those cunts is a vote for a death by a thousand cuts

2 million members (the GOA) is a significant pull

That's what I like about being a zoomer, we have a spine, we are willing to fight, we are not spineless cucks like the boomers, and we respect the 2nd Amendment unlike millennials

GTFO and go back to Jow Forums you autistic nigger

Attached: 1420491126465.jpg (257x165, 12K)

How many felonies have you committed on the principle of non-compliance, zoomer?
t. born in 94

>t. ATF agent

>Ayy TF sneaking on us gaiz xD
Fucking leddit tier meme, it's like the FBI shit on /b/ without the irony

Attached: A1 FCG.jpg (3264x2448, 2.87M)

>too lazy to make the jump
Less than 5% of gun owners are members of the NRA. The GOA could surpass the NRA's membership in a month if the GOA scores a big courtroom victory or the Dems try to pull some shit and the NRA doesn't talk blood.

i really hate the idea of a chinese flooded market but i also fucking love cheap guns

It is pretty ironic though

There is nothing ironic about all of the images posted here with "pistol braces," fixed muzzle devices or faux suppressors, binary triggers, beer can / golf ball / flare launchers, etc.

>losing is realpolitik
>losing is a strategy gaise

no I mean my comment, I felt that simply saying why sohuld I, faggot is too basic
Mup da doo didda, muh 5D Bingo

I always thought of the NRA as the fall guy who takes the blame while the GOA and 2AF do all the real work.

If the advantage of an 11.5" upper on your AR-15 derivative with a PDW stock for HD is not a big enough deal, then more power to you, I suppose

When I was talking about cuckery I was referring to loss of rights via compromise, however that ATF rule is retarded

Join the NRA if only to piss off the antis.

>pass gun control
>bump stocks
>nfa
>86

They are the antis boomer.

Realpolitik. The antis are bringing their guns to bear on the NRA and once they're gone we get commiefornia tier laws nationwide. We need them as much as they need us.
>but muh bumpybois
Best of a bad situation. It avoided a potential semiautoban without setting any legal precedent. If you don't join the NRA you are antigun. Simple as that.

What is it with you boomers and false dichotomies, continue to cope, faggot

They are the largest(by a wide fucking margin)second amendment lobbyist organization, for better or worse. You go to war with the army you have.

An army that fights against non-Fudds, the NRA is a Fudd organization, its transgressions against the 2nd Amendment go beyond bumpstocks

>we give them what they want big brain 4d chess!

Kill yourself dumb boomer. No one pushed bump stock bans the NRA and jew in chief were first in line. Kill yourself.

Yoy defend and support gun control. YOURE anti gun

MUP DA DOO DIDDA, when we give away some of our rights we win!!!!!! Muh realpolidick

Attached: mutt.png (532x483, 18K)

>the GOA could surpass the NRA's membership in a month if the GOA scores a big courtroom victory or the Dems try to pull some shit and the NRA doesn't talk blood.
Absolutely absurd. GOA singlehandedly got constitutional carry put through in Dakota and convinced the supreme court to ensure that you can sell your guns if you become a felon, as opposed to simple confiscation. Nobody knows who the GOA are.

It's not about a chinese flooded market, it's about access to quality weapons at a price that's fair. Chinese weapons offered that, and if offered again, would drive down US prices to compete. The (((NRA))) doesn't want that, because it would drive down prices and therefore donations.

>Minnesota legalized suppressors a few years back
>not with the help of the NRA, but a small local dedicated group
Small local organizations+GOA and SAF > the NRA.

Based trumpmutts

Miga my fellow pedes

Thas Rite, my nig-I mean fellow non-fudd gun enthusiasts

Enjoy that semiautoban when the the jews turn gun owners against the NRA.

NRA and trump are the jews. Literal philosemite cuckservatives.

>get another doom and gloom 'if you don't give us more money we'll go out of business forever' email
>another one of these threads pops up
like fucking clockwork

>we need them.

No we don't. They are sucking up resources that could actually be used to advance 2A rights instead of lining their own pockets through fear-mongering.

Fuck the NRA and fuck you.

Attached: 1534732043824.jpg (500x500, 43K)

>We need them as much as they need us
You're clearly one of the cucks with lifetime membership
>[bump fire stock ban] avoided a potential semiautoban
With a Democratic margin in the House, are you retarded?
>without setting any legal precedent
The ATF redefining automatic fire to include non-automatic devices at the President's behest without any legislative process is the legal precedent on the way to a "semiautoban," you must actually be retarded

Attached: 1502579917235.png (343x339, 162K)

Wew lad

That’s one fudd post you got there. Fuck the NRA

I liked up during the Obama years. They seriously fucked up during the first years of the Trump presidency. They could have gotten something done and they just sat there begging for more money to squander.

Meanwhile the CEO is looking at a 30m hole and says to himself "know what would make this better? A 40m personal expense account for myself"

Hence why I vote for anybody the board views as a dangerous outsider. Because their little scam could very quickly become exposed to the light.

THE BOARD HAS NO POWER READ THE BYLAWS

The GOA employs 14 people, has brought roughly 20 suits since it's inception in '76, and it's campaign contributions and lobbying amounts were $120 000 and $1 100 000 respectively. The NSSF and Safari club had 4x those amounts each.

The NRA did 8x those amounts in 2018, and if 2016 is any indicator, they will probably do more. The NRA has the ability to walk in John Cornyn's office and ask him to make room on his Friday schedule to talk about upcoming legislation. Right now, the NSSF can't even do that.

Today, hoping the NRA dies and relying on the GOA is like scuttling your only aircraft carrier because the captain's a corrupt fuckup and expecting a missile frigate to pick up the slack. If all the donators demanded LaPierre and his cronies go packing or they didn't renew, you'd fox 80% of what's wrong with the NRA.

Nature abhors a vacuum. Midway USA and other gun companies will throw their weight behind the next most powerful gun lobby group, making it the heir apparent to the NRA. The problem here is that the NRA misjudged it's own demographic. The NRA leadership board is made up of fudds who do not care about the average gun owner or what's in common use. This is why they've been hemorrhaging memberships and why I've told them to fuck off each time they've called me asking me to rejoin. There isn't more room to compromise. Gun rights are at the edge of a cliff, and "compromise" pushes us one inch closer to total freefall. They've made it clear that they are going to take ALL of our guns, they've ADMITTED IT ON NATIONAL TV. RECENTLY. And then the NRA says "guise, lets compromise"? It's like literally none of them bothered to pay attention to how well appeasement has worked historically.

Everyone reading this needs to make sure they belong to their state's local gun rights organization as well as:
Second Amendment Foundation
Firearms Policy Coalition
Gun Owners of America

Don't like the NRA? Don't join it. Join the above mentioned groups.
Like the NRA? Feel free to up yourself to a lifetime membership, but don't put all your eggs in one basket. Join the above groups.

>>inb4 purity spirals, 5d chess, tranny/discord/shareblu shill

I am not okay with a future where all I get is a single shot 22 short that I only ever get to fire at the range. Join gun advocacy groups.

I was reading a game review for the game "Days Gone", and there's a character in the game that hates gun control. The game reviewer labeled him as an "NRA fanatic", but NRA is not mentioned in the game.

Attached: awdawdw.png (948x512, 51K)

Attached: idiots3.png (618x412, 365K)

fuck the nra...

I'd shoot a traitor before an enemy
The NRA is that traitor

can i get this on a sticker?

Reminder the NRA is a magnet for leftist hate

Attached: 1521951394392.jpg (2048x1536, 433K)

Do I have to be all three to join?

Attached: 1521951745515.jpg (1536x2048, 634K)

They spend 3% of what they make on actual activism. No, we don't need them. If the NRAs revenue was split between the the SAF, GOA, etc then we would have actual progress towards things like the HPA.

"Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have." -- Saul Alinsky

Attached: 1521951178594.jpg (1536x2048, 419K)

More appropriate pic for that quote

Attached: 1521948887556.jpg (906x1199, 222K)

Attached: 1521953975630 (1).jpg (1080x1080, 201K)

t. grabber

>muh too big to fail

End the NRA!
t. grabber

>t. Treacherous Weasel Wayne LaPierre

Supporting the GOA and SAF is like voting Libertarian. You think you are doing the right thing but in reality you are wasting a vote on crazy people that have zero ability to pass laws. I remember the dark times after Sandy Hook when the Dems had majority control of the house, Senate, and Obama was president. They were drafting bills for AWB 2.0 and the NRA shut them down. Turning over ITAR reinterpretation, fighting the gun safety act that year. Don't forget their recent successful push to uncuck CA magazine laws. Those were NRA payrolled lawyers that won that fight. But instead some good goy makes a fake outrage thread smearing the NRA and fucking everyone is eating it up. Support the NRA. Support the GOA. Support everyone that helps protect the 2A for us Americans

Attached: giphy.gif (341x376, 1.81M)

Yeah except that only applies when trying to wield said power. The NRA doesn't do shit.

>cannon fodder for the grabbers so GOA and SAF can get to the real work.

explain how this makes any sense at all

But sitting there is being a rage magnet that the left sinks money into defeating is power, and lulz, enough

Attached: 1522335583598.jpg (451x600, 89K)

I remember when this sign used to be ironic

Attached: 1521956131218.jpg (1429x2000, 287K)

WSJ is reporting that North, working with Ackerman, sent LaPierre a letter asking him to resign after LaPierre charged a $200,000 wardrobe purchase to a NRA vendor. LaPierre can step down, or Ackerman will release further info damaging LaPierre and the NRA.

I'm frankly okay with either of those guys retiring, but I'd rather it be LaPierre just because it's easier to get North out at the end of this year or the next, whenever they vote again.

cnn.com/2019/04/26/politics/nra-extortion-pressure-to-resign/index.html

I'm pretty much okay with this

Attached: 1521948426248.jpg (1024x768, 248K)

What does NRA be like?

Attached: 1521942806991.jpg (1029x1372, 302K)

What money? They're getting red flag laws and registration passed all over the country and the NRA does next to nothing about it.

fucking hell, i dont understand how assholes can be so corrupt

"compromising"

ITT: retards who don't understand how lobbying works
Doesn't matter if the NRA is cucked, they're the only group with the resources and clout to do anything at all. GOA is great but they don't have anything close to the power the NRA has.

If they oust Lapierre I'll rejoin.
Something has to change, and I think North recognizes the writing on the wall even if Lapierre doesn't.
A NRA that goes full SHALL would get way more then 40 a year from me.

This. If there's any dumb fuck NRA reps lurking for marketing ideas, literally just start SHALLposting and you will make lifetime membership drives beyond your wildest dreams. Stop this fucking nonsense of carefully conceding the right a parcel at a time and start taking it the fuck back, or you will be gone before 2030

Part of me thinks it's mostly just Wayne LaPierre. He's been in power of the NRA since fucking 1991. There are talks today that he may be getting ousted, and it will be interesting to see what happens. I mean for fuck's sake he advocates the suppression of violent video games. He's the ultimate poster child boomer faggot. I hope they put in a young leader that actually understands the concept that 2A means human beings are allowed to own the best weapons, period, and doesn't budge on a fucking thing.

The NRA just made a ton of people into felons overnight but literally fucking supporting the bump stock ban.

It doesn't make any sense. It can ONLY fucking mean that they are pro gun control. The very concept of what they allowed means that they support being able to own full auto machine guns for the wealthy and connected, but don't think that every person should be able to own a peice of plastic that fucking poorly simulates full auto fire. Think about this. They literally acted in the Feinstein-esque way of gun control ideology and said "this isn't for you, peasant". I don't know how old you are but you need to realize that they also literally supported the last major gun control bill, which was the assault weapons ban in the 90's. It's shocking when you think about how they actually have supported our worst nightmares. They either need to completely change ownership or stop existing. There really isn't a debate here.

I'm antigun because I don't want to support an organization that literally orchestrated all of the major gun-control in the past 35 years???

THE NRA LITERALLY ENDORSED THE LAST FUCKING SEMI-AUTO BAN WAKE THE FUCK UP