Black powder general /bpg/

Yep, in Cali no less.

Can this be done for $200?

If you own a milling machine, yes. If not, no.

Yeah I looked it up and realized it'd be like $500, I'm retarded. Should have done that first

As a follow up, what do you guys think would be a good poorfag entry into cap and ball revolvers?

Brass frame 1858 made by pietta.

Ya but it if your gonna put a conversion cylinder in it.

Buy a Remington if you’re dead set on brass frame

Or get a steel frame colt.

Fuck sorry didn’t finish Reading your post. Just saw brass frame and assumed colt.....

I bought a brass frame .44 pietta, decided I wanted to shoot full charges, so I bought a steel frame on eBay and swapped it out.

Also got a short barrel as well somewhere, it’s neat that you can swap barrel assemblies out really easily.

Certainly going to get a conversion cylinder sometime, haven’t yet though

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The 1858 is really the best and cheapest way to get a pistol delivered to your door that shoots cartridges. The 1858 can drop and load a new cylinder just as fast as a modern revolver uses a speed loader.

What is the best option for a fun and cheap gun to get started in BP?

Watching capandball makes me want to try

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Along the lines of getting a cheap handgun, I've found that it's really difficult right now to find a GSG 1911-22lr conversion kit. On a totally unrelated note, the Canadian police keep finding KWC all metal .177/Airsoft 1911's (they're built on the same basic frame) that have an ATI/GSG 1911-22lr conversion kit slapped onto the frame turning it into a fully functional .22lr pistol with next to no modifications. Weird how these these things happen, isn't it?

Thoughts on shrtening black powder to BePis.

Does anyone know if the pietta 1858s come packaged with two cylinders or just one? I'm getting varied answers.

Dang italians need to hurry up and send us more 1855 root rifles

Just one. Regualar extra cylinders run for about $80, at least where i am.

Remington 1858 are out-of-the-box more reliable than colts. A pietta made 1858 in .44 is the way to go. Just make sure to grab a steel framed gun, brass frames just doesn't hold up as good as the latter if you start firing on a regular basis war charges.

Is it possible to mill a normal cylinder in order to put cartridges in it ?

capandball likes the Remington's much better so if it was between that and a colt I was planning on a Remington.

However I do like the looks of some of the small revolvers. But I dont know if thats a good move for my first bp

>Remington 1858 are out-of-the-box more reliable than colts.
And a bit cheaper, if the price on Midway is anything to go by. Not OP, but thank you user. I've been on the fence for a long time about BP and I think I'm gonna have one just to fuck around in the backyard with this summer.

how big exactly is the 1858?
banana for scale pics anywhere?
is there any frame size difference between 44 and 36?

That has a 12 inch barrel.

These sex doll are getting pretty advanced

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>Hurr wat do I first black power gun guis??
>Brass is no much moneys!
Do some research and don't buy a fucking brass gun.
The fat man will set you up if you listen.

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In my state you can buy these like a pack of bubble gum, I didn't even get carded.

You can't use a cartridge conversion on a brass frame

Wait, is that a sex doll? There was something uncanny valley about it, but I assumed it was just some girl going overkill with the photoshop. Holy moly.

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>The 1858 can drop and load a new cylinder just as fast as a modern revolver uses a speed loader.
That is not true.

6 seconds for me
get gud

>because it voids warranty

youtube.com/watch?v=M3rj89cqQQ8

Actually the brass frame can't stand up to the recoil.
I mean you CAN fire cartridges with the conversion cylinder but it's gonna crack eventually.

That's why you load your own. 25-35g charge with 195g round on a brass frame is fine.

I love my gsg 1911. 20 rounds of 22 as fast as you can pull makes it a good car gun. My only complaint is that it is extremely picky about food.

Yeah that's true.
But I always used the conversion cylinder for that extra velocity for reaching out a bit farther but that's just me.

You gain more by not using the conversion cylinder. You can cram more powder in the stock cylinder than a 45LC case. You can load a 65gr charge in an 1858, you can't fit more than 40gr in a 45lc case. Plus the twist rate in an 1858's barrel is meant for spherical ball ammo, not conical bullets. The accuracy is garbage with 45lc conversions.

Where my flintlock nibbas at?

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I swear russian girls (or slavic in general) are either fucking gorgeous or totally hideous and there's no inbetween.

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I can reload my 357 in 3 sec or less with a speedloader. Swing cylinder, drop shells, push the load, push cylinder back.

With a BP revolver, no way to swing out cylinder fast. Have to depress retaining pin; pull out cylinder axel; push out cylinder; tussle with getting new one in; put axel back. Takes more than 5 secs.

>Actually the brass frame can't stand up to the recoil
>thats what I read on the internet somewhere

I have a brass frame 1858 Army. I used it with conversion cylinder. It ate through 50+ boxes of 45LC. No crack in the frame, it functions as well as it was when purchased new.

You gonna shill pyrodex here next?

they come with only one

i have a brass gun and its been reliably fine for the 5 years ive owned it. but i follow instructions on max loads

I've had my Remington 1858 new army with an 8" barrel since I was 15, got it and a bunch of supplies for shooting total was about $600. got it all shipped directly to my house. thank you mom for letting me use your credit card.

What about a steel frame?

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Perfectly fine.

Nice dubs

I can reload a bit faster If I just let the cylinder drop out and if you know your gun you can just slap a new one in, my unsafe "combat" method is about a second faster but It dosen't hold a candle to any modern weapon.
It's the ".45 that nobody knows about" that really drives the interest with these, people that think a flat out handgun ban might happen in the future.

I've never owned or fired a .22lr reproduction of a center fire handgun (even scaled down models like the Sig Mosquito) that would reliably function with anything but high velocity .22lr loads.

So if its not a firearm can I put a stock on one?

Yes.

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Checked but aren't those ones 300$ a piece?

Your mom let you spend $600 on her credit card? Fucking richfag

Pietta or Uberti for a 1860?

Post calipers on frame gap