Black Americans vote against gun rights despite severe lack of faith in LEOs and a history of injustices against their...

I like the way you think.

true, and proving how futile gun laws are.

Here's a quote for you that sums it up quite nicely:
“Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”

As I always say, an armed society is a polite society

Not him. DFW still sees assaults, muggings, a few homicides, and weirdly enough the occasional kidnapping targeting the gay dudes. Pink pistols had free armed escorts for a while during a bad few months.

I'm a bit curious why no one thought to arm themselves instead, but I assume they had their reasons.

Take on the fence noguns to the range and teach them basic firearm safety. There has not been a single person who turned down going a second time. Most have started looking into buying firearms for themselves.

A lot if this is probably just coincidence rather than targeted

They've been trying for decades. You will never change them. It's one of the reasons why people are jumping off the "conservative" ship. I only employ rhetoric so that there are more arms in the general populace. So even if they vote against liberty, they still bought a gun.

Because issues that personally concern all those voters are lumped into the party that also confiscates guns. It's a failing of the two party system.

are you fucking retarded?
>be nig in NYC
>in crime infested school
>have to make decision between owning a gun illegally and risking jail or not having one when you might need it
>purchase gun from nearby bridge puerto rican
>hide it in dresser
>nypigdick officer searches your shit because stop and frisk and fuck the constitution
>sent to Rikers Island
>3 years in hell without even going to trial because fuck the constitution.

Black people suffer more from gun laws than anyone else.

FUCK OFF COMMIE

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Not frequently enough.

And they mostly just make shit up for attention.

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Maybe, but does that really change the equation if you live in that neighborhood? Should they feel better if, after beating the shit out of them, their attacker says it's just because they're so small and totally not about their sexual persuasion?

Fuck em. White people suffer at the hands of niggers endlessly.

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me

>spreading firearm ownership makes you a commie
3/10

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>voted against gun rights while selling guns to criminals in America.

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Themselves. 40%

Niggers, fags and other assorted subhumans should be unarmed. As far as I'm concerned, they've lost their right to live by encouraging policies that decrease my freedom.

>How do we arm the masses?
You can bring a horse to water...
>Why are these demographics so illogically opposed to gun ownership
Because they serve the system (corporate-gov't complex) and are only relevant and elevated because of government and mob coercion. For all their talk about muh opression, deep down they know damn well what side their bread's buttered on.

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the average person is not immune to propaganda

You watched too much 90’s CNN

If you unironically believe in disarming anyone you don't belong on Jow Forums.

Tbqh I never see too many fags. Then again I don't get to Missoula too often.

I've tried approaching liberals with instances of oppressed minorities arming themselves to their benefit. Eg; John Brown, Native Americans, slave revolts, post civil war blacks living under Jim Crow, lynchings being stopped, faggots/ trannies defending themselves. Got called a straw man despite genuinely believing the 2nd should be used by people who need it the most. Once someone gets too left of center nothing will undo the self induced brainwashing. It's infuriating that the self proclaimed representatives of the historically oppressed don't seem to actually care and just use minorities to push an agenda. At this point in my life I've given up on trying to make them see. As soon as the race war starts I'll be going down to my local inner city coffee shop and collecting yuppie scalps.

theres actually a growing number of pro gun minority groups its just that media loves to spin their own bullshit narrative

Gibs and hating on white people is more important than guns.

Because acknowledging you need to own a gun also means having to realize that a lot of your beliefs and expectations are just straight up bullshit.
Like with the woman thing for example, for women to realize they need guns because they are on average physically inferior to men and need an advantage over would be attackers, they have to give up the whole feminist notion that "women are just as good as men in every respect" because again, they acknowledge that they are largely weaker and slower than men.
Hard to break that "everything's fine and will work out in the end" mindset.

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Well Jow Forums isn't going to be the one making positive changes here. Mentioning that you're gay here gets you some 1800s style hate.

Nah, not if you’re a trap.
If you’re a trap you get guys throwing themselves over each other at the chance to get that bussy.

What comes around goes around. They want a totalitarian police state, they can live with it.

>arming people who want to kill you and erase your race and culture from history
Why tho

Well I'm not a trap, I just don't want to get lynched at Jow Forums meetups. Maybe it's just Jow Forums transplants

Negroes and muzzies primarily

Cute twinks also count.

Thought it was the trannies that we’re 41% not the gays

Traps are gay though
Nothing wrong with being gay as long as you don’t center your entire identity around it

Those are more like 41% HIV

they also seem to kill eachother with them in mass,HMMMMMMMM?

Most people don't even vote

All you have to do is tout being pro-gun as liberal. After all, gun control is anti-liberty. And since liberty is a big part of liberalism, you are being anti-liberal if you want gun control. It is anti liberal, because it violates our civil liberties. Our civil liberties in this case being the right to resist. Resist against what? Resist against what one finds to be immoral. Self-protection, is one in the same with the spirit of resistance after all, since killing in self defense is basically a an action based on one's judgement of whether or not an immoral action has been performed on or is being performed on you. So shouldn't our ability to defend others from harm, which is an action stemming from the judgement of another's performance of immoral actions, be preserved? If you say yes, then in your advocation for gun control, you restrict and hinder the ability to defend, not only oneself, but others as well.

This line of thought can help convince many people of more liberal leanings, and I've convinced many liberal friends of mine to either support more pro-gun decisions, or admit that they were actually being fascistic in their views on guns.

youre implying these people want to stop being victims.

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You'd be surprised how many gay people hate flaming faggots and trannies.
>t. Actual fag hating homo

This. Wife's uncle is gay, him and his husband are the nicest people. I still want to arclite strike the Folsom St fair.

I'll assume you're being facetious, because it doesn't take much to size up Jow Forums and realize that wouldn't be an issue. Nobody cares if you're gay, they care if you're acting like a faggot. No different than any other faggot, like that boomer shitting up the last nugget fest. If you share the same culture as the rest of Jow Forums, you'll be fine. Just save references to being gay for idle threats like, "Shut your mouth before I fuck it."

Go fuck yourself, I'll lurk now but if SHTF I'm keeping any IRL Jow Forumsommando at 100 yards or greater from my person unless he can demonstrate consumption of a food besides crayons

This is bait

The brainwashing has been very successful, sadly.

>quoting Atlas Shigged
Regardless, she absolutely hit the nail on the head with that one.

>African american vote against gun rights because of whatever shit OP said

I actually support gun rights, but in my darkest moments I often wonder why I should bother if LEOs are going to gun me down for being a nigger, regardless of what my rights may/may not be.

>far too frequently
Hardly.

>DFW
Glad niggers are good for something.>Mentioning that you're gay here gets you some 1800s style hate.
Wow, you're very progressive and enlightened. I wish I was a degenerate faggot like you!

Sage for fag enablers and this shit thread.

Black people, gay people and women (outside the kitchen) are the groups right-wing gun owners are scrutinizing the most. If they start to arm in large numbers, all hell will break loose.
So, cynically, it's easier to call for mass disarmament than try to win an arm's race against such a headstart.

>TFW american
>because of muh 2a there is a fuckload of guncrime in your country
>niggers shooting up convinience stores for 20 dollars, piglice executes innocent people on sight but it's okay because muh shall not infringed
>people are hoarding up assault rifles only to protect themselves in case band of mexicans will break into their tiny american homes
>some people actually realised what is the problem and trying to fix it but still they are too weak to defeat the gun lobby
>some rednecks at Jow Forums are angry because they failed to understand the point of the smart people

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>redneck BTFO, no arguments as usual

I know you're baiting but how exactly is a ban going to fix anything? it's not like the guns already in circulation are going to magically disappear, nor will criminals stop using something they weren't supposed to have in the first place

>know you're baiting
Is "saying truth" means "baiting" on this board?
>how exactly is a ban going to fix anything
I don't want a ban. I want more stricter gun control like in european countries. It will drastically reduce gun crimes if you will not be able to buy a gun in the wallmart any more.
>guns already in circulation are going to magically disappear
It will take a time of course.
>nor will criminals stop using
Look at japan and korea. People are robbing stores with boxcutter knives in japan. In corean action movies about the gangs all mobsters are armed with melee arms like hammers and bats, because there is gun control.

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You don't even believe the things you're typing. It's devil's advocate for practicing rhetoric.

You and I damn well know that they could murder every motherfucker on thisncontinent who possessed a firearm and anybody whose income still depended on slinging opium or meth would be scoring them from the cartels for the next 100 years.

For the places where homicides occur, we aren't Korea or Japan. That's an even worse analogy than the UK or AUS. We're closer to Brazil in those areas, and everybody knows how well gun prohibition worked out there.

>niggers shooting up convenience stores
We'd solve more issues if we dumped all the nigs in the ocean long before doing the same with guns would.

>Is "saying truth" means "baiting" on this board?
spewing horseshit that's been refuted several times is hardly "truth"
>I don't want a ban. I want more stricter gun control like in european countries.
lucky for you, I'm European, believe it or not
so you want
>arbitrary mag and caliber restrictions
>allowing the government who owns what just in case they decide to take it away at a later date
>a legal system which favors the aggressor over a law-abiding citizen
is that what you want?
>It will drastically reduce gun crimes if you will not be able to buy a gun in the wallmart any more.
no, not really, my hometown still has almost nightly shootings and I live in a pretty chill area
but that's fine since the filthy rubes can only bend over and be victims, right?
>It will take a time of course.
I wouldn't know about that, while tbere us some surplus as old as WW2-era floating around, nothing has ever stopped criminals to smuggle shit from warzones, and that's when they don't want to bother making their own shit altogether, it's not like firearm technology is black magic
>Look at japan and korea.
you mean places where bootlicking is a national sport?
>People are robbing stores with boxcutter knives in japan.
they do pretty much anywhere, but that's mostly lowest-level shit, if you think the ones actually worth anything can't get guns you're completely delusional
>In corean action movies about the gangs all mobsters are armed with melee arms like hammers and bats, because there is gun control.
>in corean action movies
>action movies
are you seriously taking fiction as your basis on real world facts? come on now
all in all I give your post a 7/10, you perfecrly captured the average grabber's knowledge but your grammar is still kinda poor, if you want to appear like you're smart you'll have to work on that

>You don't even believe the things you're typing
I do, because I live in country with strict gun control. I don't like it but it is still better than 2a.
>would be scoring them from the cartels
So secure your borders. Your president even wanted to build a wall with Mexico.
>We're closer to Brazil in those areas, and everybody knows how well gun prohibition worked out there.
Well... I'm not an american. Maybe you are right. So enjoy living in fear, CCing and stockpiling ammunition in case someone will try to rob your tiny house.

>We'd solve more issues if we dumped all the nigs
But you realise you will not able to do so. And soon there will be more nigs than american """whites""".

>people in countries with gun control just get their heads bashed in rather than being shit, so much safer and civilized!
>referencing action movies
2/10 bait at best

>so you want
Which country are you from? I haven't heard about those laws. I do not like them desu.
>my hometown still has almost nightly shootings
Where is this happens? My country is much more safer from the guncrime.
>if you think the ones actually worth anything can't get guns you're completely delusional
They can. But simple folk have no bussines with them.
>your grammar is still kinda poor
It's because I'm russian.

>so much safer and civilized!
Yes. You can just run away from the bat, but you can't run away from the handgun.

>Once someone gets too left of center nothing will undo the self induced brainwashing.
At best you usually end up with
>just disarm straight white men then
And at worst you get
>if we exterminate white people, then no one will need a gun
But no matter what these people gave up on any sense of equality long ago. They need special treatment and everyone else should pay for it.

>Be me, sitting on toilet before work
>Live in NoVa
>Everybody and their dog owns a gun
>Even my coworkers who attended the women's March
>Crime level in my town: basically none. I haven't heard sirens in years.
>Be me 10 years ago
>Live in Richmond
>Hear gunshots every single night
>Have someone kick down my door to steal my drug stash (they were looking for the guy next door)
>Stray round busts my TV a few days later when they got the right guy
>Everyone, myself included, is a brainwashed anti-gun faggot
>We're all also poor and on give
It's almost like there's other factors at work

>NoVa
What is this?
>It's almost like there's other factors at work
In USA you can obtain a gun in the other state, or at the gun show, or ask your buddy to buy one.

Our ever-increasing Muslim population

>So secure your borders.
Bud, what country are you in? I ask because if marijuana or harder drugs are illegal in your country, it was pressed on you by the US government as a crackdown starting all the way back in the '20s under Ainslinger. We've been trying to stop the spread of drugs from outside our border for nearly 100 years. It doesn't fucking work because the demand is there.

> So enjoy living in fear, CCing and stockpiling ammunition in case someone will try to rob your tiny house.
No need to be rude. Again, not sure where you live, but keep in mind nearly all the homicodes in the US are geographically isolated to specific areas. I live in a suburb that is armed to the teeth with CCs and semi auto rifles, but has a yearly homicode rate less than 1 in 100,000. Like so much else in my country, it's about the money.

>NoVa
Northern Virginia, where all the government contractors/immigrants live
>But you can cross a state line!
You... Realize that's not an argument against what I'm saying, right? Despite living in the exact same state, under the exact same laws, with the exact same availability of firearms, crime rates could not be more different.

> Other factors
>In USA you can obtain a gun in the other state, or at the gun show, or ask your buddy to buy one.
Stop being obtuse. You know that's not what he meant.

>far too frequently
Get back to me when faggots are being executed in the streets

>what country are you in?
Russia.
>it's about the money
So what if you are poor? inb4 "poor people should just work more lel xD"

>that's not an argument against what I'm saying, right?
I just stated a fact.
>Despite living in the exact same state, under the exact same laws, with the exact same availability of firearms, crime rates could not be more different.
Looks like I missed your point, I can hardly understand you.

>I want more stricter gun control like in european countries. It will drastically reduce gun crimes
Do you unironically think that if Americans simply had to fill out a meme form in 5 minutes like in Switzerland they'd suddenly have lower crime rates? Lol. Not to mention how in Austria you can buy rifles and shotguns about as hassle-free as in the US.

> Russia
Moscow, or elsewhere. I'm not terribly familiar with your cities, so what are the economic makeup of other cities compared to the rural parts?

>So what if you are poor?
I grew up rural. It can be boring, but it's an honest life. Alternatively, you share an apartment with other renters near public transport or until you've saved up for a reliable car assuming the city has no transport infrastructure. Thankfully, municipal leaders are beginning to see how much of an economic drain not having the later can be. Then the spouse, house, 2.4 kids, etc, you know the drill.

>meme form in 5 minutes like in Switzerland
No. I think they should pass the bureaucratic hell like in Russia.

If you think anyone here actually hates gays and isn't just being an edgy fag, you should really go back

>Moscow
Yes.
>so what are the economic makeup of other cities compared to the rural parts?
Moscow and Leningrad are rich, other cities are poor. Rural places are shitholes.

Russia = bureaucratic hell, shithole with gopniks murdering each other like niggers in the US.

Switzerland, Austria = lax gun laws, safe as fuck.

modern "liberals" don't care about personal liberty, they just want the state to take care of them and make sure they're "safe"

>like niggers in the US
Gopniks are nogunz, while nigs have a lot of them.

>American definition of "liberal"

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Is crime Russia geographically isolated to the poorer urban neighborhoods, as it is in the US? Or does it follow some other distribution? Is it directly tied in large parts to the drug trade as it is in so many other places?

And yet they still kill each other in droves while people buried under mountains of guns don't, therefore gun control does jack shit.

>liking faggots
DUDE COCK JOKES LMAO *smokes meth and rapes 12 year old* DID I MENTION DICKS YET LMAOOOOOOOO

>Which country are you from?
they're pretty much the same in all Western Europe after the last directive, some places may be stricter than others but they all have that in common
>where is this happens?
again, all over Europe, but it barely even makes local news
funny how that works, every place is heaven on earth when the media isn't blowing everything out of proportion, I wouldn't even be aware of all these shootings if I didn't have friends talking about it the next day
>my country is much more safer
>Russia
yeah, about that, the overall murder rate for my country is pretty low, the coolest thing about gun crime is that it has nothing to do with actual murder rates
>simple folks have no business with them
you'd be surprised, the same people selling drugs can usually also hook you up with something interesting if you know them well enough, from what I could gather it's not that expensive either