The US Marines and Royal Marines faced off in a sporting competition. Despite the US marines having 100x the number of personnel, the Royals won every event except the basketball and the boxing (which was a 5-5 draw). The picture attached doesn't include the rugby scores, but the royals dominated both games.
Why are the US fitness standards so poor?
>why did the americans lose to the british in a bunch of british sports
>Basketball
>Golf
>Powerlifting
>Functional fitness
>Boxing
There was one football (soccer) match and two rugby matches, which is counteracted by the three Basketball games the US would win. All the other stuff is neutral. Especially functional fitness and powerlifting.
The royal marines are special forces and shouldn't be compared to normal us marines
Our budget is incredibly spartan when it comes to individual Marines.
>can play sports
>bad at violence
Seems pretty British to me, carry on
What is the actual point of the us marines? I'm not joking or baiting, I just don't get it. Why have the marines basically be "army 2"? Surely a smaller specialised force makes sense, leaving all of the equipment (tanks, jets, etc) be handled by the people that know them best.
I really don't understand the US setup.
How do you feel about a noguns country beating you at shooting?
I believe the royal marines have to go through much tougher training in general.
I dont know from experience but US marine training doesn't seem much more strenuous or even different from the army.
That's pretty much true today but in ww2 they definitely fulfilled their role as an amphibious attack force.
The MAGTF, Marine Air Ground Task Force, idea is that within 72 hours the Marine Corps can be deployed with Air and Ground/Support elements to gain a foothold anywhere in the world. The culture of the organization is also drastically different which means it gives them a seperate set of skills from the Army.
>skeet
Soldiers are trained to shoot men, not birds.
Marine Corps invades.
Army occupies.
Maybe in some doctrine, but not in modern practice.
What does the USAF do when there are muhreen jets fucking around?
What about the fitness event? Are marines trained to be non-functionally fit?
I love watching the American brain explode at the thought their forces aren't actually the best in the world.
>this win against cannon fodder is what brits gloat about
Royal Marines are most definitely not special forces. However, they are elite light infantry who can operate in a host of different terrains and environments, and deploy from both sea and air assault. By comparison, US Marines are essentially an indonctrinated zerg rush meat shield whose only job is to buy enough land with their corpses to allow the actual forces to get in and win the war.
Elite light infantry and special forces are the same thing.
It's not a matter of gloating, the US should be embarrassed and asking big questions.
You talk like Armatard.
asking what? why soldiers are playing golf? us soldiers lost. time to increase golf budget!
the idea is that the marines can deploy a relatively independent force anywhere in the world rapidly. which is really the only reason they're still riding on boats nowadays.
in practice there's no real push to get rid of them, they're pros at propaganda and america loves them. so good luck getting rid of them.
inb4 soldiers saying they can do the same thing so there's no point in marines
inb4 one of the few butthurt soldiers who says they did more in the pacific in ww2 than the marines
inb4 general soldier butthurt
False. They dont do the same job role. You might deploy a battalion of Royal Marines to engage in conventional warfare, but youd never do the same with for example several squadrons of SAS. Different roles, different structure, different capability.
>Golf
Should’ve sent the Air Force. I bet they’d wipe the floor with those limey assholes.
i think most marines agree royal marines are held to a higher physical standard. the brits are far more selective and the royal marines are much smaller force. they don't fulfill the same role, in the end.
america wins wars not because each person is fit, but because the machine is well oiled and has doctrine built on experience.
i say "wins wars" in a more generic sense. it has the ability to be pretty destructive but is set on winning hearts and minds so tries not to destroy everything and everyone.
>america wins wars not because each person is fit, but because the machine is well oiled and has doctrine built on experience.
America wins wars because it has a gorillion dollars to throw at it.
Welp, whatever it is, it’s worked out pretty well so far.
i mean that's part of oiling the machine.
it's literally built around having infinite money.
it's kind of like late-game total war when you've done well and you can just shit out armies and elite units.
Royal marines are SOF moron. try to compare royal marines with SEALs or Delta some time lmao
I thought they were more on par with Rangers? Like just elite infantry.
>pretending soccer is a real sport in 2k16+3
After WWll Congress seriously considered abolishing the USMC and just having the Army maintain a force with amphibious capabilities. Lobbyists shut that down. Because the USMC is what corporations used to abuse other countries for the past century. Weirdly, they were able to get the entire military to help out with globalization too. So we could have done away with them anyway.
No they are not. The only contingent of UKSF that has royal marines in it is F Coy 42 Commando RM as part of SFSG.
SBS is the UK equivalent of SEALs, SAS is the equivalent of Delta.
T. British infantry who actually knows royal marines
Aren't royal marines more comparable to rangers or marine recon?
>usa wins wars
Uhhhh
Usually the war part itself goes fairly well, as the US military has gotten pretty good at killing people after 2.5 centuries of nearly constant warfare. It’s the room temperature IQ politics that caused the war in the first place that make things go to shit.
Lol this projection
>durr they both called marines so they must be same
>britbongs send their best to meet America's mediocre
>ask no questions
I actually want to see Royal Marines vs Rangers now, seems like it would be fun
Who would be better at golf, though? And what does that say about the winners?
it happens just about everytime someone asks what the point of the marines is.
im pretty sure it's 1 or 2 guys who just really hate the corps
The marines are full of spics not niggers. So basketball is a wash.
Well Rangers, atleast the 75th, are SOF
I mean more so in core competencies rather than classification. Aren’t both groups basically just light infantry, but better?
Close air support
The weak should fear the strong
"The sinews of war are infinite money" -Cicero
yes. The Royal Marines just have a lot less money and worse equipment.
"Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak." -Sun Tzu
It was probably a bit of fund had by all. The post sport barbecue and pissup would have been of more interest to everyone attending. There are top quality USMC men that would fit in, easily, with Commando units. Conversely, there are Commandos that would feel very at home doing anything that the USMC do. Where it differs is that the USMC are a full spectrum, multi capable force that's broadly comparable to HM Forces as a whole.
The best boxers and sportsmen in any military organisation are nearly invariably from rear echelon units where they have time to train and condition for such events. The RLC dominated skiing, and the Royal Signals were always the best at rugby in my time. Infantry units tended to have top boxers, but it wasn't always the case.
In short it was a laugh, not a serious comparison of capability.
I think they're grading the Marines(both) by the wrong metrics.
The competition should be around most njps.
>DUIs
>Assault and battery
>Sexual assaults
>Drug charges
cope
This. I bet the Brits haven’t even killed an Okinawan before.
no one cares about soccer or rugby
They're written into the Constitution. Couldn't get rid of this defunct arm even if they tried. Not that anyone would, the marines spend more on PR than the other three services, despite being miniscule.