Cooper did hella dirty on this great tank it deserves more love
M4 Sherman love thread
Carter Harris
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Carter Rodriguez
Christopher Robinson
Yet on average only one crew member would die per Sherman knocked out it was one of the safest tanks of the war
Matthew Fisher
I heard that the U.S. Ordnance Department was aware of the Sherman being a 'Tommy Cooker', and attempted to implement various measures to address this issue. The design team was lead by Sheldon Rosenstein, a convicted child-beater, arsonist, and avid necrophiliac. Sheldon was reportedly pen-pals with Shiro Ishii, and Oskar Dirlewanger. When questioned about these letters outgoing to hostile countries, Sheldon replied that he was merely exchanging 'tips and tricks'. Sheldon's team designed a mechanism that would lock the crew hatches shut, thus trapping the crew, when smoke was detected inside the sherman after being penetrated and set alight. Not only that, but apparently there was also a following feature that was a re-take on the Brazen Bull. When the crew was burning to death, their screams would be amplified by speakers that projected outside the tank. The U.S. Ordnance Department justified these features by proclaiming that the Germans would be frightened by the hellish screams of the sherman crews being incinerated, and allied soldiers would be more motivated to fight hard, lest the same fate befall them. Sheldon also later devised a system that had a 1 in 59 chance of setting off an explosive charge in the ammunition storage every time the Sherman's engine was turned on. Supposedly, this was to 'test the crew's luck before battle'. This innovation was well-received by the U.S. Army, but was rejected for budgetary reasons. Upon receiving news of the Army's rejection, Sheldon bludgeoned his manservant to death with a fire iron in a fit of unstoppable rage. Years after the war, Sheldon tragically died in a fire, which he had started in a New York orphanage.
Gabriel Rodriguez
Some of the stuff about that image looked odd, so I reverse searched it. Explanation that was given was that it was used as target practice by the Dutch in the 1950s.
Jeremiah Edwards
stale pasta
Ryder Turner
this video should be requirement of posting on Jow Forums about anything involving the words Sherman, tank, T-34, and WWII, American, and Russian.
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Mason Barnes
Based
The truth will never get stale
Sebastian Hall
Tommy cooker
Grayson Bennett
One of the safest tanks of the war
Tyler Smith
Ah, the infamous Sherman. Often referred to as the 'Tommy Cooker' by the Germans.
The nickname referred to when the Germans starving from lack of rations, would scavenge destroyed Sherman tanks for the precious cooked meat inside. In fact, the designers of the Sherman designed it to light every time, so that cooking of the crews was guaranteed.
Of course, the Germans would often eat the allied tank crews whether they were cooked or not, regardless. My grandpappy told me this in great detail when I was a young boy. Truly the horrors of war.
Leo Perry
Mein opa
Chase Baker
This seems tremendously dubious.
Henry Gomez
Inb4 muh Tiger
Lucas Foster
Nah the 88 shot 6" diameter AP rounds I think this got hit in Normandy.
Brandon Morris
>88mm equals 6inchs
Are you ok user? Do you have brain damage?
Ryder Martinez
Just looking at the image and I see: there's no markings on the tank, every periscope has been removed, there's no gun tube, no headlights, no mg in the hull, and there's no personal equipment or tools. Yet it looks like the tank is burning as if it's been recently hit. Those things suggest a tank on a target range.
Jordan Barnes
Even IF you assume the "Tommy Cooker/Ronson" meme as the truth, most tanks don't just blow up like that immediately. What usually happens is that tank catches fire, the crew bails out quickly and the smoldering tank finally gets to the point the ammunition explodes, but that can be minutes to even hours away.
Austin Ramirez
If a fire starts in the engine compartment then it may be able to be extinguished, or at least give the crew time to bail out. If there's fire in the fighting compartment then you have problems with the crew being quickly overcome if they cannot quickly extinguish it. Any tank has a lot of flammable stuff in it with the ammunition, oils, hydraulics, electronics, and in some cases the metals.
Even if the ammunition doesn't brew up or explode, just being in an enclosed metal compartment with smoke & flame can mean disorientation and deadly conditions. Tanks back then were flammable and dangerous and there was no saying otherwise. What the Sherman benefited from was giving its crews quick and easy ways out (with the exception of the loader on early vehicles, but this was fixed by 1942.) whereas other vehicles often had less intuitive layouts or mechanisms for opening hatches.
Jordan Price
>whereas other vehicles often had less intuitive layouts or mechanisms for opening hatches.
don't get me started on how shafted the loader was in the panther, his escape hatch that he cannot use as there is no steps or ladder to aid his escape so he'd have to lift himself through the hatch, and he's on the other side of the gun so he'd have to squeeze past it to get to the commander's hatch
Christian Stewart
Even opening the Panther commander's hatch was multiple steps if it was buttoned up. You try doing all the motions while panicking or seeing as the compartment rapidly smokes up. The large hatch on the rear of the Panther's turret would also be hard to open due to its weight. Other Germans tanks like the Panzer III only had access from the turret, and the Panzer IV and Tiger's hatches for the driver and bow gunner required the men to scoot to the side and then go up. For some reason, it seems like few tanks just had simple up-and-out hatches. I don't get why that concept seemed so rare.
Also keep in mind that if you take too long and the compartment is smoked up, opening a hatch introduces air, which means all that smoke very quickly becomes flame. Fun.
Jeremiah Sullivan
The designers probably thought hatches made the tank and crew vulnerable to infantry anti-tank tactics of the time, it's also why tanks then had so many pistol ports.
Jason Richardson
The T6 (m4 prototype) had escape hatches on the hull sides.
Matthew Gonzalez
Ram 1 for comparison.
Adrian Parker
Charles Murphy
Ryan Kelly
Joshua Brown
was that ERA? or spaced armor?
Ayden Morris
Found the image set and it had this description:
>The screens were combined and consisted of 2 25 mm aluminum plates, the space between which (25 cm) was filled with a mixture of HCR2 of quartz gravel, resin and wood flour. Tests of shielded Sherman were conducted in the summer-autumn of 1945 at the Aberdeen proving ground. During the tests, the screens demonstrated their effectiveness, but the weight of the additional reservation (8 tons) led to a decrease in the mobility of the tank.
Meant to be a spaced armor to defeat shaped charges.
Lincoln Morris
Spaced armor
Zachary Collins
ITT seething ameriboos
Kayden Baker
Based
Oliver Butler
Brody Wood
Read that as "wet flour" and started thinking about freshly baked bread
Colton Gutierrez
Parker Edwards
>that "meme"
>implying you're not a seething mutt
Kek
Nathan Wood
fucking retard pz 3 and for had floor and side escape hatches, all later panthers had floor and upper hatches. you know there wasnt only the panther d that still killed ten times more t34s than own losses despite being a rushed prototype.
now fuck off to cod.
Jordan Scott
>that muzzle break
Christian Torres
>sherman M4 ausf. H
Logan Perez
The 76' Sherman really do something to me
Aiden Hughes
>25mm aluminum, 25cm quartz, 25mm aluminum
Genuine composite armor in 1945? Neato.
Eli Stewart
The side escape hatches were removed from late production vehicles due to the skirts blocking them. They were also nearly impossible to actually reach from the drivers compartment, depending on the orientation of the turret.
Christopher Fisher
Remains of a Sherman with wood-on-concrete side armor on Iwo Jima.
Sebastian Flores
Same tank showing penetration by 47mm anti tank rounds.
John Bell
47mm may sound small for an AT gun, put the Japanese had a pretty potent one. Especially when they hide their positions and waited to fire when the tank was close or had already driven past so they could put a shot into its rear or side.
Very good example of the modifications Shermans had in the Pacific with the non-metal armor (fear of magnetic mines) , extra treads, and cages/spikes over hatches.
Henry Perez
The Sherman's bad reputation comes mostly from wehraboos and that one idiot mechanic with PTSD from washing guts out of tanks.
Watch this:
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Isaac Sullivan
It's actually a counterweight. The M4 was designed to carry the M3 75mm but none were available at the start of production, so they used the shorter M2 instead. The shorter gun threw off the turret balance, hence the counterweight.
Isaac King
Brody Thompson
Owen Campbell
I'm a fan of the cast hull over the weleded ones
Justin Miller
Dominic Morris
Your file naming is giving me autism. It's M4A1 76(W) HVSS and M4A1 respectively.
Nicholas Rivera
Good taste. Not as effective as the later welded hulls, but I really like how they look and how you can see the clear evolution beginning at the M2 medium with the suspension bogies. You see a lot of the improvements of American tank design from the interwar period brought together into one vehicle.
Jaxson Davis
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Charles Powell
they were like that when I ripped them from Google Images. was too lazy to change them
Charles Rodriguez
I prefer those thicc ass jumbos
William Russell
>The truth will never get stale
If you had any truth this would mean something. In actuality, the T-34s burned more than the M4s
Thomas Wright
The US used stabilizers in their ammo to keep the ammo from cooking off to quickly.
The USSR replaced these with more explosives.
Ian Gomez
>Being this upset
Andrew Baker
Killed a lot of Limeys, God bless.
David James
amen bruder
Justin Lewis
I love Sherm Sherm.
Samuel Nelson
But why did it have a radial engine
Jordan Howard
Simple answer is that it's what the Army was used to. They were using radials in the M2 light tank because they were lightweight but gave good power, that carried through their tank designs and into the M4.
Jayden Morris
Army decided they wanted to keep things simple and adapted their aircraft engine for use in armoured vehicles.
That's why the Sherman's hull is so tall, so it could fit the radial engine.
Later Sherman variants ditched the radials for U-engines and V8s.