What is the best service/duty/civilian pistol in the world and why is it the Sig P320?
I am so glad you asked, k. The P320 is the most flexible striker fired pistol in the world. One serialed FCU can be every single pistol in the Glock double stack lineup and even some combos the Glock is incapable of. It is as safe as the Glock without the homosex trigger tab or the other two "safe action" features that ruin trigger pull and only address shortcomings in the Glock design itself.
Let's face it, k. The P320 is the future and it leaves every other polymer framed striker pistol in the dirt.
>Carry >Combat >Home defense >Plinker >Bullseye driller >Steel plate speed clanker You literally just described the P320 except you could also have full sized/carry sized duty and subcompact in one single pistol. And you could get it with a red dot for less than the price of a Glock MOS version alone.
Passed every drop test required by the military. Minor issue discovered by Sig engineers and fixed. Not serious enough to warrant a recall. 110% as safe a Glock.
>poo in loo made in india garbage yep, this one's going in my cringe compilation
Henry Smith
>Minor issue discovered by Sig engineers and fixed Fixed for the military version of the firearm. Issue not disclosed and recalled because it would harm their chances of winning the Army pistol contract. Issue not disclosed until a cop was shot with his gun due to Sig's negligence. Sig immediately began issuing voluntary upgrades, because they had already identified and fixed the issue, and simply not informed their customers whose lives they endangered.
So yes, buy Sig with confidence. Confidence that you will be buying a sub-par product cheaply made, because their R&D budget went to advertising instead. Their yearly recalls and constant product revisions required by their insufficient R&D resulting in failures that cost Sig owners their lives and livelihoods will be fixed 2-3 generations after you buy the gun, unless it is considered too costly to fix and discontinued with no refund available to you.
Oliver Cooper
And your guns kB! with everyday use.
Jaxon Moore
30 years ago, if by normal use you mean emulating 10mm loads in your .40.
Julian Cook
I work for a major sporting goods retailer and I get firearms for cost. So when I decided to buy another striker pistol price was not an issue. Not that it matters since the P320 is cheaper than the Glock.
Joseph Phillips
Issue was not found in .mil testing it was found and fixed at Sig. Tell us another tall tale kiddo.
Ethan Gomez
NOPE. NO THEY DO NOT
Luis Wood
So.... a Kia or Toyota?
Caleb Fisher
No! They explode all the time! Every day they do it. All of the day bro!
Angel White
>Issue was not found in .mil testing Correct, reread what I wrote. Sig found the issue, fixed it for the military, and did not fix it for the civilian issue of the gun. And had no intention of disclosing the issue until someone got shot due to Sig's willing negligance >it was found and fixed at Sig Correct, and not disclosed until someone literally got shot because of Sig's blatantly unsafe design choices, which they later identified, rectified, and did not make available to the general public or disclose until someone nearly died.
William Stewart
>best >service/duty/civilian You just named 3 different markets with 3 different sets of needs. This thread is retarded.
Levi Powell
2018 F150. Comission is very good selling guns.
Hudson Wright
But you are missing the point that the pre-fix gun had already passed all the .mil and multiple LEO drop tests ya goober. And if it was considered a serious issue it would have been a recall and not a "voluntary upgrade" which actually improved triger pull. Spin the story again, ya schmuck.
Adam Wilson
And one gun that will fill all those needs. No, not one platform. Literally one single gun purchase.
Colton Brooks
>spin the story Don't need to. Sig found and fixed the fatal error with their handgun, but waited until someone nearly died due to their negligence to even offer a fix to civilians.
Sig is garbage which will kill you.
Mason Miller
Correct, Glock 19
Jaxson Green
SIG spends more on R&D than any other small-arms manufacturer in the industry. But you wouldn’t know that because your source of information is Military Arms Channel and Nutnfancy.
Adam Carter
Because they fucking make 1000 different firearms rather than make a few that are really good
Landon Ramirez
My dad wants to buy a striker-fired pistol so we went to the range last Sunday and we shot my VP9 and rented a P320 to compare it to. The P320 felt like it had a little less recoil but we both agreed that the VP9's ergonomics BTFO of Sig. Also the paddle mag release is a much better design than the push button.
Tyler Fisher
I can't stand the multiple finger groves on the VP9. They don't line up properly with where my hand should go and it drives me nuts.
Juan Ward
>one single pistol In the same way that an AR lower is do it all, which is to say nobody bothered. The basic G19 sized gun covers most bases until you run full on competition or deep carry, in which case you want very different guns, not the same gun with some parts swapped
Parker Scott
Yeah, after $300 minimum in aftermarket upgrades. I’m not defending the P320, but most pistols come standard with night sights, mount for optics, front serrations, good ergos, and decent triggers for $500 these days. For $500, Glock will give you none of those as well as a pistol with a beveled slide, but not a beveled frame to match.
Glock has had all these things as factory options since at least the introduction of gen5.
>inb4 but they should be standard
They shouldn't because many people specifically don't want some of these things. I for one think front slide serrations are useless and look ugly so I avoided buying a glock that had them. Same for night sights since I only like 2 dots and nobody puts 2 dot night sights on factory handguns.
>good ergos >good triggers
Subjective and I think sig is worse in both departments.
I agree about the non-beveled frame though. It looks retarded.
Elijah Gutierrez
No thanks.
Not buying Sig since Cohen took over.
Levi Flores
US Army chose 320 over 19X Danish chose 320 over Glock despite Austrian CEO being formed Danish armed forces SC019 and Danish combat swimmers use the MCX Half the US’ police and soon most of the border patrol carry 320s SEALs carries 226s for decades Police around the world carry SIG Pros Tango6 now on the Army DMR SWAT teams use the M400 Elites
They make like ~7 guns and then a few different iterations of the main guns.
Anthony Gomez
USP
Not even close, fren.
>the go to war pistol standard™
Andrew Bennett
They rushed the 320 into service. They didn’t go through nearly the same testing as the beretta before it. The glock and the 320 both passed the inital round of testing, it beat them out by price.
Just because there’s a handgun General doesn’t mean all discussion about handguns needs to be there. KYS
Owen Davis
the only reason it beat out glock in the testing was because SIG bought out more congressman, they opened up two plants that happen to be in the districts of key congressman on military committees *cough* french hill *cough* after it got adopted
BERETTA 92a1 compact is the best handgun, with the decocker only of course
Adam Garcia
Please find me a 15 round 9mm or 13 round 40 USP magazine that isn’t cheap plastic construction. I’m sorry you shill for guns you have no understanding of
Wasn’t even that guy but ok. When the feedlips crack, toss them, poorfag. Use your brain for once.
Camden Wright
>when they break just throw them away! Or you could just buy magazines that don’t break that easily
Jonathan Martinez
They don’t break easily. Maybe if you’re dropping them loaded constantly on the concrete on the feedlips.
My pmags have been more reliable than the USGI mags i was issued, reason why i use them.
David Ross
I can guarantee that was the ammo
Logan Jenkins
>The glock and the 320 both passed the inital round of testing What's the argument here? Why do you immediately think that I have beef with Glocks? Also keep in mind this fatass in ur video doesn't address that the guns were tested using some godawful Federal +P ammo that the military wants to switch to, resulting in most of the failures to feed (slim to none) and barrel issues, it's why they filed an engineering change proposal after the gun was accepted so that it would be usable with the new ammo. That is why the M17 Commemoratives don't work with regular 9mm ammo, the recoil springs/guide rods are meant for different loads, unlike the XM17.
Angel Campbell
>night sights They’re a factory /option/, not standard. And it’s a $30-$50 up charge. >front slide serrations >optic mounts Only on the MOS FS models, not all of Gen 5. And again, they’re like $50 more.
Easton Kelly
the only thing I don't like about my P320 is the MOS slide attaches inside the slide instead of outside like a glock, other than that its great.
Alexander Myers
>SEALs drop P226 for G19 >MARSOC drops 1911 for G19 >Delta drops 1911 and M9 for G19 >SAS drop P226 for G19 >JT2F drops Hi-Power clone for G19 >SASR adopts G19 >GIGN drop P9 for G19 >GSG9, who have historically sucked off HK, drop P12 for G19 >SAT drop P229 for G19