God I wish SAAMI would lay down some +p and +p+ 10mm specs.
For me, its 10mm auto, the coolest handgun caliber
Joshua Harris
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Sebastian Mitchell
A pistol round is a pistol round. Penetration is what matters. 9 mil does the same things.
Alexander Myers
A pistol round is a pistol round. Penetration is what matters. .22 does the same things.
Dominic Scott
Sure pal
Angel Turner
With a 6 inch barrel and a nuclear best MM load, you can replicate intermediate caliber SBR ballistics.
Even some atomic commercial loads break out of typical pistol performance.
Landon Bell
Grayson Green
OwO
Eli Rogers
Yeah I carry a 10mm, how could you tell?
Thomas Parker
Common centerfire calibers.
Temporary wound cavities from pistols don't do anything.
Doesn't replicate the terminal performance of a rifle round.
Isaiah Powell
Here's a 10mm going through a level IIIa
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Joshua Thomas
25 acp is your round of choice then you fuckin queer
Tyler Sullivan
what about a fuk,bro?no
They go at 2000 fps rifle velocities
Joshua Barnes
i have a box of those, the muzzle velocity causes them to sound quote a bit different from a normal handgun round, closer to 5.56 than 9mm or "normal" 10mm.
Ethan Smith
>60 grains at 2600 fps
Sbr 5.56
>135 grains at 1800 fps
Sbr 300 blackout / 7.62×39
>220 grains at 1300 fps
Also the glow in the darks that you listen to entirely change their opinions on pistol stopping power every 15-30 years.
Connor Powell
>no silver bullets
what if a werewolf goes after you?
Aaron Powell
Nope. My point in saying "a pistol round is a pistol round" is that centerfire pistol rounds generally perform similarly. Cranking +Ps aren't going to give you any significant increase in stopping power. They are all in the pistol-realm.
Try +1000fps. Then you'd be getting into rifle velocities.
Daniel Peterson
Easton Stewart
I don't see what you're getting at. Is your greentext referencing a pistol load you found?
Also, facts are facts. Don't care if anybody changes their minds.
Josiah Bell
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Zachary Martin
havent been able to find any yet, might need to melt down grandma's jewelry and cast them myself.
Luis Williams
Ive shot liberty ammo, it definitely acts like a rifle round against a lot of hard targets. It made huge impact flashes against an aluminium transmission case I shot. No other pistol caliber including 500 magnum did that. Only .308 (the only rifle round I shot it with) created a similar effect.
The round I've been most impressed with is underwoods 100 grain extreme defender. It puts bigger dents into steel then +p+ 44 magnum hardcast loads, or 12 gauge slugs for that matter.
Both liberty ammo and Underwood XD's went through 3a armor panels, which is pretty badass.
Aaron Flores
My bullets are crosses. I'll be fine.
Lincoln Gomez
Austin Butler
man up
Eli Williams
God I hate 556 faggots so much
Adam Ortiz
10mm has more then twice the crush cavity of 9mm
If 2200 fps is the magical limit for permanent cavitation, 10mm can reach that. Fluid transfer bullets also eject tissue at speeds well above that.
9mm Is a fine round, perhaps the best for killing unarmored nogs that arent behind barriers, but acting as if everything smaller and larger then 9mm is useless is cult tier worship of your chosen caliber.
Landon Wood
Didnt mean to include the >220 grains at 1300 fps
The greentext indicates available 10mm loads, the calibers listed below are rifle rounds which closely fall into those performance parameters from a short barrel.
Jackson Fisher
>If 2200 fps is the magical limit for permanent cavitation, 10mm can reach that
you're a moron. quit posting.
Camden Cox
Do you actually own one? Seems like a pain in the ass caliber desu.
>even more expensive then 10mm by a wide margin
>no functional hollowpoint designs
>your only solid copper load seemingly fit for defense is super likely to tumblr instead of functioning properly
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Brayden Jones
Lehigh Xtreme Defenders would like a word. 10mm converted to 9x25 Dillon or 357sig shooting 65gr XDs is the only pistol choice worth carrying.
Mason Hernandez
Hunter Collins
You think your smart because you've seen two YouTube videos stating that 2000-2200 fps is the permanent cavitation limit?
Little secret, they were using simple terms for grug brains like you. There Is a gradient of temporary and permanent cavitation that begins well before 2000 fps.
Adam Edwards
10mm performs better then 9x25. I'll repeat this for you, Lehigh fluted designs require high caliber projectiles to function optimally.
Mason Kelly
On permanent wound cavities and overall damage yes. I'm going for sectional density and speed for armor Penetration as a top priority. Does the 10mm penetrate better than 9x25?
Jose Turner
Jaxon Thomas
Not sure. Assumedly not. I've still destroyed 3a with my 10mm before, and for plates you'll be using tungsten sabots anyways.
Charles Carter
This thread Is for people who use bullets designed to kill.
Isaiah Robinson
my broder
Noah Cruz
why does Jow Forums specifically salivate over 10mm?
Camden Wilson
I just really like it, it comes in a slew of different loads, is relatively cheap and (coming out of my 1006) it sounds like a cannon
Lincoln Fisher
Its autistic, just like us.
Its powerful and fun to shoot. It can do some really impressive stuff on target.
Its unique and different. Variety is the spice of life.
Nolan Allen
Something worth killing is worth killing with style
Nicholas Lee
Hardcast for bears and skinwalkers
Good solid copper loadings for feds, and you can even load ammo capable of piercing plates with tungsten rods and sabots.
Good hollowpoints for dindus and deer
It can do it all from a single handgun.
Luis Harris
I like to 1up people. Wouldnt you like to drop what you shoot ?
Jonathan Scott
Because they think it makes them a cool tough guy. 99.99% of them stick to the overpriced .40S&W loads and never shoot more than a box of the real hot stuff that they shitpost about.
10mm is the tall downie kid in the retard class. He may be bigger than everyone else in his class but he's not going farther in life than any of them.
James Hill
KEK
Chase Robinson
7.62x25 cuz muh velocity
Jacob Sullivan
What's a good entry level 10mm? Glock Fawty? I like the long slide aesthetics.
Michael Jones
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Ethan Hernandez
Any of the glocks
Any of rock islands 1911s
Evan Walker
10mm is a bit faster and far heavier
I like tok too though.
Kevin Long
>Temporary wound cavities from pistols don't do anything.
Tell that to these piggies, okay?
>Hunting/autopsy, handguns:
>subcompact 9mm XD:
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>1911 .45+P XD:
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And it only gets better when you step up to high-pressure cartridges like .357 SIG and best mm.
Adam Phillips
Lmao. 1 cm. Just buy a fucking .44 magnum you fucking manlet
Brody Powell
>Marketing executive who sells billions of his shekel meiste- I mean, very reliable and ultra powerful rounds doesn't want to stir up the police chiefs by saying 9mm is a so(y) round.
>acting as if this is worthy of citing
Dylan Gomez
Based and magnumpilled
Hunter Anderson
This. This place is filled with insecure contrarians and retards. If I saw someone shooting 10mm at the range I would probably stay clear for fear he is anything like this place.
William Garcia
Rock island 1911 doesn’t have any issues?
Eli Bennett
I reloaded some 50AE+P i dont see why id would be hard in 10mm. they are usually like 4% over. creep up on it.
Henry Diaz
Why aren't there more than two fucking handguns in 7.62 tokarev?
Noah Ross
Been eyeing a full size Sig for EDC, got more than enough money to buy one, assuming I just went out tomorrow and got one should I get it in three-fuddy-seven rather than 9mm? If you've shot both just how much better is it in your own personal experience?
Oliver Cook
You came into the wrong thread manlet, 10mm gang is überallies with .500 magnum gang.
Nicholas Hughes
10mm confirmed for the true Jow Forums caliber. Now get the fuck out.
Hudson Butler
None that I've heard of.
Jackson Jones
Slavshit tooling is weird.
Nathan Barnes
Thinking of converting my .40 to .357 just for the 65g xd. Does anyone have any experience how much the point of impact changes from normal 125g target ammo to the 65g screwdriver?
Kayden Price
I have shot both rounds, but not against humans or human-sized game, let alone enough to have a meaningful estimate of "how much better".
I'm currently carrying .357 SIG, so obviously I think it's the better, or at least more interesting, choice, but I have no experience of my own to contribute. Apologies for being useless in that regard.
I will say on small varmints/pests, I'm currently at 4 out of 5 dropped where they stood with 65gr XDs. (The other one was a possum hit in the gut/hindquarters -- the bullet still did fairly impressive damage, but a magic bullet can only do so much to make up for hitting the wrong end of the animal.)
80% may not sound like much to somebody with the skill to make clean heart/lung hits or headshots on critters, but given my lousy shot placement, 80% DRT is substantially better than any other handgun round I've tried -- in my experience with "normal" handgun ammo, at least half of those would probably have run 10-30 feet before dropping. On the other hand, though, I haven't tried XDs in any other cartridge, nor FMJ/JHPs in .357 SIG.
I didn't really see any difference in POI at 10 yards, but that says more about how I'm an incredibly shit shot with a handgun than how close the POI actually is.
Justin Jackson
they are beastly not unholy creatures that wont do anything
Elijah Lewis
Thanks for the info anyways user, I've never shot it at all so whatever you know is still way more than what I do. I'm looking at it right now on some bulk ammo sites, is there any particular brand I should avoid or am I free to go for whatever I like the economy of without worrying too much about serious quality issues?
Jason Foster
Everything is wrong here. Everyone in this thread is autistic enough to favor any pistol cartridge with a necked down case like the 9x25 Dillon and the 357 sig.
In any case, I want to see a necked down 45acp case with a bullet diameter of a 10mm/40 cal tip. Then some of us can see a 10mm bullet get some penetration power.
Zachary Wright
>what is .40 super
Also it's a shit meme cartridge that doesn't do anything that well
Robert Williams
Don’t they make 10mm hi-point carbines?
Leo Stewart
I would do terrible things to own one
Jackson Morales
Based
Alexander Walker
You can hit 1000 ft lbs from a 6 inch barrel doing this with 10mm
Samuel Kelly
>40 super
>Looks it up
Oh fugg it can't break 2k fps
Isaiah Jenkins
long slide, long mag
Carter Watson
9x25 Dillon is what you want
Aiden Ortiz
i wish SAAMI would kill itself and switch to CIP
Tyler Green
That's for vampires, user.
Carson Ward
Sea mexicans know how to make a good 1911..
Colton Edwards
Winchester Silvertip handloads it is
I'm thinking 175 grains at 1400 fps
David Gray
It's true, the 1911 was designed with them in mind after all.
Justin Fisher
Anything that 9mm offers over mousegun calibers like .25, .32, or .380 acp, 10mm offers over 9mm.
9mm fags sound like religous zealots, claiming that everything smaller or larger then their round of choice is useless, and that their round can do anything and everything better.
Juan Wilson
Isaac Anderson
Tfw sleeping with your comfy 10mm pistolfu
Joseph Nguyen
Caleb Jackson
500 is for idiots who want to spend the same as a 460S&W but don't understand that the 460 is ballistically superior and is more SHTF with multiple rounds working in it.
Isaac Kelly
Have you modified it so you can shoot real 10mm without it exploding?
Cameron Perez
Meme rounds. Weight is what penetrates bears vitals
Liam Murphy
been thinking of replacing my Tanfoglio Witness with a Witness P Match Pro, the original model seems a little dated now.
Easton King
Boyy wish i could own a 10mm but im cucked and no one imports that caliber to my country
Ethan Hernandez
You guys might hate me for it, but I bought an XDM in 1cm.
Jack Butler
>getting serious replies for this
god damnit Jow Forums
>two 9mm shills demonstrate why their new round is all you'll ever need
Isaac Long
9mm shills are BY FAR the worst caliber fanbase. I can't think of anyone else that comes close. I'd say it goes:
1. 9mm
2. .223/5.56
3. 6.5 Creedmoor/6.5 Grendel
4. 9x25 Dillon
5. Maybe .327 Magnum
Jaxson Barnes
Damn, I gotta step up my game.
Charles Carter
7.62x39
Brandon Smith
Necked cartridges are more reliable than straight wall as it’s easier to put something small into a big hole. As a tinydick(tm), you should know this.
9x25 simply is the best pistol cartridge available rn.
I would rather have 6.5x25 but no one makes the guns or the ammo. At least you can buy ammo and reloading dies for 9x25.
Aaron Gonzalez
Nah, proof that they are more reliable?
Carter Jackson
Factually wrong, probably just a federal shill.
Jaxson Scott
>+p+
This doesn't any official meaning. SAAMI has no specifications for "+P+." It's just what fudds use to unofficially describe pressure greater than SAAMI +P.