Best Historical Battle Formations

Thermopylae.
The Persian army was so large that when they landed, the men, then the horses and elephants drank a river dry.
By some accounts, the death ratio was 400 to one. Now not all of this was direct action, ie hacking or spearing, but many were pushed off the cliff.
At least twice the Greeks feinted a practiced retreat, when the enemy rushed after them, they wheeled and sprinted in formation behind shields with spears and stuck the enemy like pigs on a spit.
As the enemy then retreated, they pushed their own off a cliff onto rocks by the sea.
The Greeks did this twice. Thousands had their heads bashed in by the fall onto the rocks.
Most of the Spartans were superb athletes and after 6-9 hours of hacking and stabbing, with no water or food, it is written that the scene of the battle smelled of shit, blood and urine.
There is more, but you get the idea.

Battle of Alesia. The best offense is a good defense.

Why two kinds of shields?

read the above post.

>Why two kinds of shields?
That's all the toy maker had to work with.
fukin millennial's
"is-is-is that an actual image from the battle professor shekelstein?".

Are you okay?

Pike and shot.

Thermopylae ain't shit.

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Explain this old man

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Pike, Shot, and bad-tempered Spaniards.

I think they had light cavalry
trebuchets
infantry
archers
castle wall
or something like that

Thermopylae's wake up call to the Persians, and subsequent battles (2), formed the civilization you enjoy today.
Otherwise what the Greeks introduced to the world:
Democracy, (theory, not what we have today) of every voice being heard.
Plays (kike cinema today).
The Olympics (what they used to be anyway. Before kettle bowling or whatever they call it)
Formal education for all.
Medicine.
Philosophy.
Zoology (old ari first classified animals and plants)
geometry (not really those pesky goat fukers)
And finally, the basis of modern law (French and British) in the introduction of the Jury.
Of course we can attribute written history to some guy named Herodotus.

Now tell me more about alesia and the romans, who copied errything, errything, from the Greeks. Even their Gods were modeled after the Greek ones, with the names changed of course.

What exactly, did that battle, or even formation and armament, effect modern society? As soon as Col. Colt visited japan, those blood thirsty upper class tyrants, fell like leaves in the fall.

The pike square

Relevant for 2000 fucking years, from Alexander the Great to the 30 Years War

How bout marathon or salamis, nigger?

And uh, Alexander was roman, right?

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Breh

Come on, it was a joke about a battle that took a weird turn.

I love the filenames for these.

Who then lost to the Romans, "What have the Romans ever done for us".

>How bout marathon
om fuggin g. How about running the "marathon" then running back and kitting up to fight in the battle.
They could have sent a rider on horseback, but one stretch was rocky. So they sent some dude name phidipides. He ran 150 miles to Sparta then back another 150 miles to Athens, then another 25 miles back to Athens to announce the victory. "Nikomen". The he died.

Very interesting!
1 Those lang xian shou look very awkward to wield. There's a lot of mass out front, and the width of the bush could cause a rotational moment if the bush isn't symmetrically balanced.

pt2 Also I wonder if you might be wrong about them being bamboo. Some drawings make it look like the points are like a Ge blade. Much heavier than mere wire. If this is correct it is also likely that the shaft and bush were of wood.

pt3 TIL Ming China invented the modern fireteam

He was French and wielded a FAMAS in battle

He was actually from Somalia and he raped hundreds of British Mums.

They put the unsullied there to cover their retreat. Pretty silly how they put everyone outside of the walls when they should've just played defense inside the fucking castle.

What are the best historical battle formations?

Depends entirely upon the technology of the time as well as the terrain. For instance the interplay between and cavalry, at some points the terrain and technology would favor the infantry but then something new, like the stirrup for instance would come along and cavalry would become dominant for a time. The phalanx was dominant where the terrain prevented it from being flanked, but it could be outmaneuvered by a more flexible force like a Roman legion otherwise. One of Rome's great advantages was their combat engineering. Give them five minutes and they would dig-in like ticks and then you were basically stuck with them.

This is a completely underrated formation

>Designed so that illiterate peasants can be effective soldiers and can be quickly trained
>Designed so that it can be effective on a macro level
>Extremely flexible so that it can be used in almost any kind of environment
>Effective against steppe nomads and pirates

Too bad it's middling against an organized professional force.

its shit against anyone with armor

The Hussites were the peak of military perfection at the time.

Swiss phalanx.
Motherfuckers could run in perfect should-to-shoulder formation up hills and through trees, could turn on a dime, are always on the attack, and never surrender. Best infantry in Europe.

>charging Spanish musketeers
>get shot to shit
>pull back
>go to charge again
>refuse to charge again unless leaders lead from the front
>leaders agree
>charge again

Fucking hilarious.

>ywn kill an enemy soldier with a baby tree

Why even live

Pay denbts

You're an idiot if you think Thermopylae was what determined Greece's fate. In fact it had very little to do with the Persian conquest, it's simply remembered because of the circumstances. It failed to stop the Persians or reduce them significantly in numbers to prevent the conquest of boetia and Attica. The battle of salamis had alot more to do with Greek independance than Thermopylae. No, if it came down to a single battle deciding Greece's fate in the second Persian invasion, it would have been plataea. That battle ruined the Persian cavalry which was virtually their only advantage in greece, and saw the end of the second and final Persian invasion at the hands of a numerically inferior Greek army.

Not to mention the Spartans get all the credit for Greek military victories despite them being fags that would have just as soon let the Greek world burn at the hands of mud race Invaders if it served to undermine the delians. They fought only when doing otherwise would ensure their own destruction. They practically aided the Persians when it meant fucking over the delians at no risk to themselves. And their petty power struggles ultimately damaged Greek hegemony more than it ever helped it. Sparta is romanticized trash

in total war, i just like to stack my army in the red corner of the map. that way the fuckers can't flank me. romans should have tried that

Light cavalry in front. Then immediately behind them put some trebuchets. Then behind the trebuchets put mixed heavy foot infanty and militia. Then behind that to cover the retreat into the castle, you have your elite spears.
Two dragons to fly overhead, but they're to make one, and only one, pass each.

t. Strategimical mastermindress

PS Trust women :DDDDD

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Send the brown people first.
Like the dothraki and unsullied

“Operation: Get behind the darkies.”

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>i don't listen to hip-hop
South Park used to be so fucking good, what happened

The creators got bored I think. They used to love it, now it's just a paycheck.

>>Roman tactics
Trade with cultures filled with skilled tradesmen and scientifically minded philosophers.
Try to invade them so you can tax them.
Get surprised when working class you want to tax always moves just beyond your border.
Try to get them to stay by inviting Roman degeneracy like gay bathhouses and the imperial cult.
Scare away philiosophers.
Try to repopulate lands with romans.
Only degenerates from lower class want to move in.

????

Get invaded by white walkers who are so appalled by your people's degeneracy they don't even rape your women out of disgust.

Profit.

Roman tactics.

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>t. seething barbarian

>Not to mention the Spartans get all the credit for Greek military victories despite them being fags that would have just as soon let the Greek world burn at the hands of mud race Invaders if it served to undermine the delians. They fought only when doing otherwise would ensure their own destruction. They practically aided the Persians when it meant fucking over the delians at no risk to themselves. And their petty power struggles ultimately damaged Greek hegemony more than it ever helped it. Sparta is romanticized trash
Important point here. Although Athens bears partial guilt for the PP war and subsequent degradation of the Greek world.

>should-to-shoulder
No.

>this thread
>Sparta
>Sparta
>Sparta
>Sparta
Daily reminder that the Athenian Themistocles saved Greece, Athens was still relevant for another few centuries after the Peloponnesian War while Sparta slowly died, Thebes wrecked their fucking shit more than once with a bunch of literal fags, Phillip II considered them a backwater and didn't include them in any of his political maneuvering in Greece, and Rome viewed Sparta as an amusement park full of weird larpers.
Soi faggots are obsessed with 300 because it's the only exposure to the concept of manliness so they latch onto it because it's the only frame of reference they have.

Based image AOE is bae

Spartans killed Pyrrhus tho

>vargtard hates western civilization

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>Phillip II considered them a backwater

Phillip II sent them an ultimatum and they gave him a one-word reply.

>Best historical battle formations
For when you just gotta conquer an entire continent

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>Daily reminder that the Athenian Themistocles saved Greece

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UHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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So a single regiment formed a column up to 150 kilometers long when on the attack? Seems like a long way to stretch out ~3000 or so men.

Against the Japanese in Korea, the Korean army and Ming armies used it with good effect. And the Japanese samurai were well armored.

The area denial Lang Xian was replaced by large tridents/manchatcher-esque polearms, while the formation gained additional musket shooters and archers.
It was basically an asian pike-and-shot formation, which was also used in larger scale formations.

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I notice that the shieldmen with swords also use javelins. Pretty nice.

A woman threw a roof tile at him and got lucky. Hardly a great victory for the Sparshits, especially considering that the Macedonians were there in full force.
Nice meme. What you leave out is that the Macedonians crushed the Thebans not long after, those same Thebans who had pushed Sparts shit in at Leuctra. You also forget that Alexander never bothered with them either and he was the greatest commander to ever live until Hannibal and Scipio.

The lead recce units, up to the Regimental command, was spaced out because these were the formations that actually did the fighting. The Regiment main body was just a massive multi-battalion road march that was essentially one big reserve for the lead fighting units. Only for massive battles would the Regiment main body break off to join the attack. For the most part, they would stay behind the fighting, constantly in road march. Giving forces up to the front when they were needed and so on.

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>A wild hill rock or shrub appears!

why did this go out of style it seems like a neat idea?

sdaads

The Cobra Vanguard obviously

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Romans were innovators.

Greeks invent the phalanx, Roman's perfect it with the legion

Greeks invent sex, Roman's perfect it by having it with women

The satire is much better now. The last 5 seasons are some of the best

Where to cop Adidas one sie

I wish they had put the nuke troopers from the first one in there

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