OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

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>air superiority fighter with thrust vectoring is better than a multirole jack of all trades jet
no way

F-35 is already obsolete because it has no range anymore.

And military brass thing thins brick will be the backbone of military for the next 40 years?!?! LMFAO

more ameriland trash

>New American plane that’s better than anything else foreigners can put out isn’t as good as old American plans that’s also better than anything foreigners can put out
What’s the issue here?

>F-22 is better than F-35
More news at 11

>State of the Art Interceptor is better at dogfighting than a multirole fighter

No shit. What do the pilots who flew Hornets and Vipers think?

That article completely ignores in air refueling and the range of the LRASM. We’ve been over this 100 times in that thread. No need to make everyone repeat why it’s a retarded source.

>MISQUOTED HEADLINE GIVES NO FUCKS FOR CONTEXT
Welcome to the 21st century, where few are literate, and fewer of those even bother reading the material.

F22 has superior kinematic performance. F35 has better sensors & data integration. One must also remember that a F35 costs around $90m, while the F22 was $200m+ more than a decade ago.

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And even more than that, I imagine Raptors are considered more prestigious to fly since there’s far fewer of them

>Trillion pounds
1. That’s over like 45 years or something
2. Why the hell would we respect the opinion of an impoverished ex-empire that can’t make its own fighter jets?

No it isnt

>NEW BAD
>OLD GOOD
Who wrote this, Crowbcat?

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Sean Martin

Sean is a Science Reporter for Express.co.uk. He started his journalism career in New Zealand where he lived for a year after university. When he moved back to London, Sean returned as a business journalist before transferring to science journalism five years ago.

Presumably just a pissed off bong who is mad their defense budget is actually being used

>F-22
>predecessor to F-35
The F-35 is in no way intended to replace the F-22, dipshit britbongs. When was the last time these fucks had a relevant military anyway?

The F22s are like the insane group b rally cars from the 80s while f35 is like the modern super 2000 rally cars with 1600cc engines.

Of course they prefer the F22 it's better in nearly every area.

>Pilots prefer two engines rather than a faulty single engine suicide box

Shocker

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I know this is you

>F-22 is a predecessor to the F-35
At least I didn't have to waste any more seconds of my life reading since he does us the favor of letting us know he's a complete fucking illiterate on the subject within the first few words.

TWO ENGINES BITCH

2 (TWO)

STOP TRYING TO CUT CORNERS FFS

it blows my mind that some of these making these articles believe "35 is bigger than 22 therefore better" exists

I mean I'm not an engineer

Imagine having this simplistic view of aircraft design lmao

Imagine thinking a multi-role fighter made for carriers, vertical take off, and much more is better than a single role air superiority stealth fighter

some of ya'll are that fucking dumb Jesus

Please stop forcing pilots into single engined deathboxes because your theory book says more thrust to weight ratio

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Most brits don't know anything about the f35 or f22 and certainly don't harbour any emotions that would cloud their judgement. If some pilots say they prefer the f22 then they wont be doing it to annoy some American spergs on Jow Forums.

Yuropoors sandniggers chinks and slavniggers are eternally butthurt at american superiority

Yuropoors are mad they can’t build their own stealth fighters

I mean they can just buy the F35 right?

Wtf dude, did your dad crashed in a single engined jet or something?

The reason the F-35 uses one engine is a combination of the reduced maintenance cost, the VTOL requirement and the fact that the F-119/135 was the most advanced engine at the time.

As it stands the F-35 is still safer than a Hornet.

>Japanese F-35 crash

The fact that there was basically no distress call or evidence of ejection pretty much rules out engine failure as a cause.

express.co.uk/news/science/1121988/US-Air-Force-F-35-fighter-jets-USA-f-22-lockheed-martin

Why didn't you post the link? Is it because the """"""journalist""""" knows less than a wikipedia reader?

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Is too.

>Theory book
I don’t think you understand how engineering works, user.

No wonder, the F-22 is just better.

>F-22 pilot justifies their own existance.

Maybe it would fly better if it didn't weigh a trillion pounds.

There's no way it weighs one trillion pounds. That's ridiculous and would never fly.

If the enemy has not better alternative then it's not obsolete

F-22 is top of the line shit we keep for ourselves, F-35 is affordable "workhorse" that we can afford to sell to allies. It's not "old vs new", it's Ferarri vs Ford, or KAC vs PSA.

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It's like saying Virginia class sub fails to impress sailors who prefer OLD Seawolf class model.

the fuck are you talking about? We are the ones buying this plane retard

>if no one disrupt our logistics we will be victorious!!!
spend 3 trillions to fight sandcoons and failed
then another 1.5 trillion and 20 years just to be able to bomb the sandcoons without weapons

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Technically speaking, they’re both Ferrari’s. But the F-22 is something like an FXX (extremely limited production, only does one thing but does it really really really well, exclusive ownership) while the F-35 is something like a 599 (still somewhat limited production compared to a Ford Escort, but still much more obtainable than the FXX while being more useful overall and still being faster than your dad’s shitbox)

how is it that fucking heavy