post aesthetic pics or art of those water carriers pls. any tank any era
Tank/Panzer/тaнк/Char etc. pic thread
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Dumping Jow Forumsino tank charts in honor of OP not starting another bullshit tank-themed argument clinic.
How many of those had same-diameter turret rings?
thanks frens
Of these, I think none. Possibly the T-26 and BT-7 turret, as I believe the BT-7s turret was used on later model T-26 tanks. The KV-1 and KV-2 might, but I'm not sure. I know the rest are all different.
well, fren, but you're quite welcome.
Also have a good collection of webms and images if there's anything anyone's looking for.
ah i see lol
hell yeah. im especially looking for older/vintage stuff
Anything specific? WW2? Cold War?
Here is the current frontrunner for the Bradley replacement program, the OMFV. And it's a new turret on a British evolution of a Spanish-Austrian IFV from 20 years ago. What a sad state the AFV industry in this country is in.
Cuban T55 in Angola 1987
So? Our machine guns are Belgian, our cannons are German, before that British, and a lot of troops drive around in a variant of a Canadian development of a Swiss afv. This is hardly anything new, or indicative of a change in the pace or quality of US AFV development. Part of having the world's largest defense budget is that you can afford to engage in global procurement. We buy foreign equipment because we can, not because we must.
Somewhat related, more Cuban equipment.
i like big cats from ww2 and the cold war, and also anything desert storm. but ill take whatever you have anything goes here
future stuff is dope too
hella
interesting i had no idea that happened
fuck me i should have been a tanker instead
>Our machine guns are Belgian, our cannons are German, before that British, and a lot of troops drive around in a variant of a Canadian development of a Swiss afv.
None of this is a good thing. It indicates a sharp decline in the industrial/R&D base.
>This is hardly anything new, or indicative of a change in the pace or quality of US AFV development
We haven't developed anything new that wasn't a 3D CAD promotional artwork piece in 20 years- and even then, the Crusader and M8 Ridgeway never entered service.
>those flies on their food
think of the diarrhea in the middle of the desert with limited water supply
>We haven't developed anything new that wasn't a 3D CAD promotional artwork piece in 20 years- and even then, the Crusader and M8 Ridgeway never entered service.
Thats the state of arms development post-Cold War globally my dude. Most everything in the arsenal of every country is 20+ years old at this point, hell the X-35 flew for the first time nearly twenty years ago and serial production of F-35s started like three years ago
more early and mid cold war vids please
>None of this is a good thing. It indicates a sharp decline in the industrial/R&D base.
No, it indicates a sharp decline in the number of cookies in my kitchen. See? I can pull stuff straight out of my ass too.
>We haven't developed anything new that wasn't a 3D CAD promotional artwork piece in 20 years- and even then, the Crusader and M8 Ridgeway never entered service.
So M1A2SEP, SEPv2, and M1A2C are... nothing? The Crusader and M8 were neat ideas, but they served no real purpose. The US has been shelling Arabs for almost three decades straight; I don't see why we would need a tracked supercomputer with a howitzer strapped to it, or a tank that it less well armed, less survivable, and arguably less versatile than a regular tank.
Procurement isn't a game of chauvinism; it's buying the best that is available for your needs. If you can do that without spending a dime on R&D because some other nation did it all, then all the better. I'm not going to claim that the US is in the best position right now when it comes to our own R&D, but I would argue that this is more a matter of politics than industrial capability. In any case, we have the budget to buy any weapon we could ever need from whoever has it, and, frankly, it's been working out pretty well since the end of WWII.
>Thats the state of arms development post-Cold War globally my dude
Not sure I'd agree- Countries like South Korea, Israel, Japan, and Germany have continued developing new vehicles and equipment that in many cases outpace what is available to our own forces on significantly less budget.
>No, it indicates a sharp decline in the number of cookies in my kitchen. See? I can pull stuff straight out of my ass too.
If you continually choose the foreign option, than the domestic industry that caters to the need will wither and die on the grapevine. Just ask the British about their tank industry.
>So M1A2SEP, SEPv2, and M1A2C are... nothing?
Not really much more than a subsystems update and new armor.
It's cool looking but I fully admit it had some very big issues that rightfully kept it from service (until Porsche built 90 hulls without being asked to and they had to find some use for them.)
>If you continually choose the foreign option, than the domestic industry that caters to the need will wither and die on the grapevine. Just ask the British about their tank industry.
And the British would bring up the fact that their defense budget, and global military involvement, is a fraction of the US. The fact is you can't compare the US arms industry to any other nation.
More to the point, the equipment the US buys from foreign powers are often domestically manufactured. So now your R&D guys are free to work on projects that other nations aren't technologically or financially capable of (Lasers, railguns, batshit crazy murder drones, etc) and your manufacturing industry is working just as hard as if the blueprints they were working from came from the US. It's not like using foreign designed equipment means you have to shut down your own factories designed for that equipment. Even if it did, well now you have a chance to diversify your industrial capability.
Think of it this way; just because people in the US drive Japanese or German cars doesn't mean the US auto industry is incapable of making good cars.
>Not really much more than a subsystems update and new armor.
Well it's more than a 3D CAD promotional artwork piece, so...
Also sorry OP I'll get back to my dump here.
Out of Webms, so I'll post some Cold War oddities.
>when your plow is so sharp it could be considered a war crime.