What´s your favorite 5th generation fighter?

>F-22
>Meme

Do you have a single fact to back that up?

The J-20 is the best-looking one

The F-22 but that is because it is the only 5th gen fighter that exists

>canards

Airforces of the future will rely more and more on UAVs, not piloted aircraft.

Blame the stealth meme
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the only one with stealth-killing L-band radar.

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Slavaboo begone

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L-band just werks. Stay mad Tyrone.

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So taking four F-15’s at best over one F-22?

Nah, you’re retarded

>L-Band works
>shows a picture from an IR system
>where the plane in the picture hasn’t flown in twenty five years
Yeah, okay Vlad.

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this duo

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Only 2 of those are actually 5th gens, everything else is a gussied up Gen 4.

agree the J-20 and J-31 are the only true 5G

>t. chang
Impressive.

With this most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the west and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Chinese dragon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. With the blessings of Chinese quantum direct-current electricity, quantum aircraft carriers and quantum enhanced railguns will be the instruments with which China affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism.

>bugmen actually believe this

you are joking aren't you?
It blows up or the engines fail every other flight.

source?

Why is the world so cruel?

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the only kind of people with this degree of delusion are taiw*nese

Pic related is representative of your relationship with the US

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That’s a YF-22 lmao

only 4 of those are 5th gen

>All that slavshit in China

Because it didn't deploy any weapons and had way less flight hours.

F-35 is the spiritual successor to the F-4 in both role and aesthetic.

>exactly one plane is slavshit

The only ones that arent derivative copies are the YF-23 and F-22 everything else is some bullshit foreign paper tiger or the F-35

Well since the only two are the F35 and F22 I guess it has to be one of those.

all of them except f-35 who can even go supercruise.

>Northrop continually develops superior fighters
>Northrop continually loses fighter competitions
>inb4 Northrop offers a flying wing for Gen6

Youd think they'd pay any amount for Lockheeds lobbyists

The US military looks a lot at cost > ability.

Ace pilot programs with super advanced fighters and let everyone else have the gay shit

*can´t

>single engine fighter can't super cruise

no shit

>t.Pajeet
>t.Pajeet
>t.Pajeet

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The 22/35 dream team.

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That sounds like some wildcat caliber
>Yeah, I took this here durr with a .22-35 Lockheed

Who need to be stealth when you can fly very high and fast and attack your objective 2000km away with hypersonic weapons.

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One person develops the plane and design first and the rest copy them with spies. It's the way of the future.

IQ under 100 confirmed.

now this is real chinkposting.

>t.Pajeet

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I bet they still have the tooling necessary to crank some out!

Because Northrop couldn't market for shit.

There's a sliver of hope that they might make an updated one for Japan
popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a22093705/northrop-grumman-japans-fighter-jet/

>implying more than 12 of those junk piles get made

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>Airforces of the future will rely more and more on UAVs, not piloted aircraft.
LoL, you think UAVs can hold their own against actual anti air weapons?

Because Northrop was behind schedule compared to Lockmart.
YF-22 was already performing missile tests while Northrop were dicking around with weapons bay mockups.

UAVs aren't meant to "hold their own" against A2AD networks, they're meant to overwhelm them.

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fpbp, shame the corrupt generals chose the worse aircraft for Lockheed bribes

I love the aesthetics of the Su-57 and F-22

J15 isn’t russian

SAAB Gripen

>Supercruise
>Meteor
>stealthy

Doesn’t break the bank.

I only wish my people werent so retarded and i hope they qont be so corrupt to pick the F35 over the grippen after the clear first round of procurement.

It's a chinese copy of a russian plane, you turd. Fucking chinks, still can't do a fucking thing on their own.

>fav 5th gen

There's like 2, operational; F-22 and F-35. Everything else is either a
>failure(YF-23)
>paper project (Su-57, japs shin-shin)
>isn't actually 5th gen(KFX)

Even the chinese ones, which looks to be the next one to be in operational status after F-22 and F-35, still have engine problem

Apparently russia, which dumped its Mig-31 for Su-57

J20 and J10 are not Russian, nor American, nor European. Honkysubvirus. You just couldn't stop spewing horseshit from your whoremouth for 1 second.

hahahahahhaha this fucking nigger thinks missiles that are 4 meters long can fly for 400km.

>massive spinal flaw required a complete redesign
>hadn't even finished landing gear tests when yf-22 had already finished weapons testing
>production f-22 is faster and stealthier than proposed yf-23
yea nah I'm thinking lockheed took a shit on your chest you baby dicked german blood :^)

>they all look the same

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pogoarchives.org/labyrinth/09/07.pdf
this is you

the myth of yf-23 needs to end dude

There are supercruise capable single engined fighters

i thought the f22 was more maneuverable but the yf-23 was faster and stealthier, or am i the one who has it mixed up

F22

the listed speed of the yf-23 is slower than the production f-22 not to mention the original difference in speed between the two was already small, additionally the stealthier claims have no evidence beyond the claims of old boomer northrop employees who will gladly tell you they were just as maneuverable without thrust vectoring along with a million other boasts.

>L-band
Is this what vodkaniggers are falling back to since their Su-57 didn't get any photonic radar nor GaN AESA as they kept claiming it would have? I mean, I can understand that when you have your allies shooting down your aircraft an IFF is a big deal, but I'll have to point out that everyone else has them by now.

Okay retard

How good/bad would forward swept wings be for stealth?

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Can you name one? Actually, can you name one that can supercruise with weapons, not just at an airshow?

Can't the Gripen NG/Gripen E do it?

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Not by air force definition, and neither can the F-35. Mach 1.2 is still transonic, and that's especially sad when you can't carry a full A2A load doing it.

Gripen NG
F-16XL
Pretty sure the Draken could do it

The Gripen and the F-16N

>Mach 1.2 is still transonic
Is that by USAF definitions? Because if so then it'd be another good illustration of "stupid shit the military does to our language".

Wut? Mig-31BM and Su-57 have different proposes.

Mig-35BM was recently update to carry Kh-47.

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Low-observable, yes. Not stealthy like the word implies.

Not hating. It's a great little fighter, but calling it a stealth-fighter is wrong.

I've already addressed the Gripen NG here:
One of the F-16XLs, with an F-110, was able to supercruise, if you don't go by the USAF definition. Even then, it was a prototype, not a service aircraft, and was not carrying weapons at the time.

The Draken's maximum rated speed at mil-power, while in a clean configuration is .99M,m according to the flight manual at avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/sweden/saab/j-35draken/hflv-685-121-flight-manual-f-rf-tf-35-draken.html#download

Look up for one, and two, F-16Ns literally can't carry external stores, so they hardly meet the specification of "with weapons."

Mach 1.2 is still transonic because there is still subsonic airflow over parts of the aircraft.