H&K USP vs SIG 226 Mk25 vs Glock 19 Gen 4

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ew those eyebags

Glock 19.

Damn maybe footfags are on to something

19 so you can conceal carry

There's better options these days.
Walther PPQ
FN 509
Sig M17
CZ P10

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Not a footfag but I always look for that detail now. Pretty much a give away

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P226 is best of that group

That's a weird way to spell USP

P226 has a much better trigger and most would agree has better ergos as well

Bullshit. I have a newer manufacture P226 platinum elite and a 1994 H&K USP 9mm. The USP is a vastly nicer shooting handgun, the double action always lands where I want it to without effort, and the single action is 100% creep free.

The P226 has the worst double action trigger I've ever felt and it's neigh impossible to manage a good sight picture through the trigger press. The single action has a fair deal of creep and a lot of overtravel.

Overall the USP is a much nicer firearm if you're actually shooting it and not just looking at it.

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why do you lie on the internet of all places?

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USP. Thing is an absolute tank. It shares DNA with the MK23 which is undeniably one of the most reliable and over engineered handguns on the planet. Federal ammo company has them in 45 to test their ammo lots. There's a confirmed story floating around of an armorer at HK that called federal asking the round count during a spring interval change and it was at 297,xxx rounds. Original barrel, slide, frame, etc.

MAC did a test of the 226 and it failed pretty hard on the gauntlet. I know that test is subjective but go watch it and make your own opinion. The USP was one of the top performers. I love sig but HK moreso.

Get the HK
HK boycotts Israel, can Sig or Glock say the same?

Yeah this. I had a 220 in 45 and it was a great gun, but the USP has a better trigger in both SA/DA and ergos, at least for me.

I've got a mk23, 2 USP 45s, a USP 45c, hk45c, etc... They're all great. Cannot go wrong. HK hammer fired is legendary.

Glock or hk. Imo the glock is better cause its much easier to conceal and I prefer striker fired. But if you're not going to use it for carry and you like da/sa, then go with the hk. Both are reliable and accurate firearms.

Nonsense, the P226 (with SRT) shits all over USP triggers.

My P226 PE is equiped with the SRT trigger. It's more creepy by nature than the standard trigger, and the short reset results in a nastier DA pull. You're compromising everything in exchange for a slightly shorter reset and a thin trigger that pinches your finger with every shot.

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Oh and one more thing, if you go over to pistol-training dot com and look at the endurance test for the HK45 (which is basically a USP with a face-lift) it went 50,000 rounds with I think 1 or 2 malfunctions TOTAL. The only part that failed was a spring they replaced past recommend interval which turned out to be a defective replacement. It was a return spring and the gun still fired in DA mode.. also it was cleaned I think 5 times during the entire test. That's a testament to HK reliability.

These are really different guns tbqh. If you didn't know that already, you probably should just save your money and buy the Glock. Why spend the extra money on something you're not even sure you really want?

Makes more sense to compare the Sig SRT trigger to the USP Match trigger. The match trigger might have an ever so slightly longer reset, but a much lighter and crisper trigger. Mine comes out to slight over 3 pounds. My old p229 with the SRT was about 5lbs and spongy as a mother fuck.

I have a gen 4 19 and a 43, and I like them. I love the 43 to be honest. But looking at a larger framed handgun, there's really no comparison to the way the 19 and a USP feel and shoot. Stock Glock triggers suck especially on the 19 I have. I did some trigger work and it's still light years behind a stock HK vp9. So much creep, mushy, unpredictable, etc . Has a decent reset but that's about it. Stock sights are plastic. Lots of things you'd want to upgrade on a Glock and by then you've spent probably 700 or more total including the cost of the gun to get steel night sights, trigger job, slide release, etc . Get a USP and be done with it. You won't regret it.

According to my scale:

HK USP Tactical with full match trigger (includes changing out the 3 springs) in DA - 10.2 lbs

Sig P226 Tacops (has SRT) DA - 9 lbs

USPt in SA - 3lbs

P226 in SA - 4 lbs

P226 reset is stronger and slightly shorter

That's a comparison on a match trigger, the standard trigger on the USP is worse.

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Also to add to this both the P229 and USP were 100% reliable with over 3k rounds between the two of them.

An intangible though is that HK was started by literal Nazis and boycotts Israel, where Sig is run by a literal kike from Israel.

Pull weight is almost irrelevant on DA pulls. It's all about how the trigger FEELS as you're pulling it through the break.

The USP is much easier to manage the DA trigger on, regardless if it's heavier or not, it's a smooth linear pull of consistent weight. The Sig's DA pull stacks up through the pull, making it hard to maintain sight alignment, which is why I hate it.

The aluminum frame of the p226 makes it real nice in the hand. Very lefty unfriendly tho. Id recommend a police trade in p226 over the mk25. Not only do you save money, but they look cooler. Theyre the older handfitted slide generation.

These are all upgrades from the Glock, but don't really compete with the USP and p226 because you're comparing striker to hammer-fired guns.

ppq no spare parts and recoil
fn 509 unreliable pos
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Im the guy with the USP and P229 youre replying to. Thats exactly what mine pulled on my trigger scale. Funny enough, despite feeling unergonomic, I shoot the USP better than almost any of my other guns.

Comparing my USP 45t (Match), USP Expert, and P226 Tacops I would disagree - P226 DA is much smoother.

>The USP is much easier to manage the DA trigger on, regardless if it's heavier or not, it's a smooth linear pull of consistent weight. The Sig's DA pull stacks up through the pull, making it hard to maintain sight alignment, which is why I hate it.
This has been true in my experience as well. Didnt hate the Sig, but didnt like it as much as the USP

Also for shits and giggles just measured the Mark 23 - DA pull is higher than my scale will measure, SA pull is 5 lbs. Reset is shorter than the USP setup and much stronger.

>that giant bubble ass
Why do women cultivate their bodies to look like this? It makes them look like they could become obese over the course of a single weekend with enough ice cream.

Mk25

>Implying she would give you the time of day Mr. "Cultivating"

Look at the beta orbiter:

You say that but the stock sights and triggers on VP9's and USP's both suck and need replacing just as much as Glocks do. Plus they need extended mag releases so you're right back where you started.

What you're saying is exactly what I was getting at. If OP is indecisive, I assume he can't tell the difference. On the other hand, you have enough experience to appreciate what the USP has to offer. He'll like the Glock at first and lots of people actually stick with Glock. He can always get the USP if the Glock isn't doing it for him anymore. I don't think we should assume it's not going to be good enough for him in the long run.

The difference is so small that it just comes down to your exact pistol you Mongoloids.

>ou say that but the stock sights and triggers on VP9's and USP's both suck
You have unbelievably terrible taste.

Stock sights on the USP are standard military 3 dot. Steel and nothing wrong with them. The luminescent sights on the VP9 aren't great. They're still 3 dot mil style and I am very accurate with them but they could be better. My second VP had the factory steel night sights. Glock stock sights are laughable with the very cheap plastic and box pattern...

Also, the stock trigger in the VP does NOT need to be replaced. The reason it feels so much better and crisp is because the style of striker is a "single action" type, versus a Glock where you are actually cocking the striker the rest of the way when you pull the trigger. It's pretty common knowledge that the HK VP9 has one of the best factory triggers on the market as noted by various independent reviewers, stacking up to others like the PPQ.

...let the boy order off the kid's menu unless he can appreciate a nice steak.

And I'm not anti Glock by any means. I own two and carry a Glock 43 for EDC more than 50% of the time. But I still know the HK is a better product... The 43 is just the easiest to conceal and carry daily without giving my attire any thought. You get what you pay for. I like HKs too because they're more innovative. They have the skills to make grenade launchers, machine guns, AR's, precision rifles, etc.. all of which hold high regard and are carried by the most elite military units in the world. That's the type of R+D I stand behind as the best.

How many other pistols do you own?
Will you be carrying this pistol?
Generally touch all and then pick the one that feels best.
I'd stay away from the Mk25 and get either an LDC or more expensive variant.
USP at this point is outdated as fuck and only worth it for the Counter-Strike LARP.
Glock just werks, but has a learning curve to get used to the trigger.

USP 45 with a tactical trigger, or just get the tactical. It's by far the best of those mentioned.

>USP
it's awesome but if you get it in 9mm you might have HIV. Nice decocker. If you want a 9mm HK then get a newer model.
>P226
Alloy frame. Good pistol but the SIG marketing and pricing is cringey shit. Maybe they haven't ruined the QC on P226's yet. DAK triggers will give you cancer so avoid those.
>Glock
The vanilla bin at Baskin Robbins; most people recommend toppings. Get one used if you actually want one. The grip angle is gay and the trigger sucks. And the sights suck. Cheap ass mags though, the other two are priced like they made their mags out of fucking titanium.

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Don't worry. She only dates Asian dudes

>The grip angle is gay

That's like your opinion man.

Yes, that is my opinion. That is why I wrote it. If you learned on Glocks as your first pistol I can understand why you are wrong.

I've shot bot and I don't really notice a difference. If anything I like that the Glock angle makes you get down on the gun more.

So the question is, which HK USP? There’s a lot of USP models out there

If you want an Hk(mediocre guns) get the HK45 or P2000, they are better than the USP. Still would do a Glock or 226 (and many other guns) over a USP.

>mediocre guns

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t. Ron Cohen

Any company that supports the death of shitskin children has my money. No wonder HK boycotts Israel; current year Germany loves goatfuckers.

>G(renade)lock

I wonder who could be behind this post

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2nd for HK

>she
nice mental gymnastics queer

Better than nogs.

Glock 19 any day of the week.
Reliability, spare parts availability, low bore axis, only one type of trigger pull to learn, no safety. It's also the lightest gun of the 3.

There's nothing wrong with the grip angle of glocks. I agree on the trigger though

What?

/glock19gen4masterrace/ reporting in, can't go wrong with this one

>small bulge at waist
I guess she likes having the bigger dick

Gen 5 here, why buying a gen 4 anymore?

Fuck ecelebs

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WATCHING TANGOS DROP

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never shot a usp but the p226 is an exceptional handgat. glock gets the job done but it doesn't excite me like the sig does. if you can, shoot them before purchasing and just get the one that speaks to you

God damn now that’s an ass

USP softest recoil, glock is middle Mario and p226 didn’t have fun shooting it. Didn’t like the trigger

USP and would berry

Dates Asian dudes and gets spit roasted by Mexicans.

Sig with Grayguns trigger kit

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USPs have absolute dog shit triggers and the ergos of a brick
Fuck those pieces of shit

It's just literal faggots trying to cope.

Sure thing baby hands

So her hymen is still intact?

cz75 is better than everything you posted by far

Lol the USP trigger is great by all accounts, why are you so gay?

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P320™, SIG SAUER perfection.

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lets head to the range nig nog and see who does better on paper

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DA/SA HKs are mediocre. LEM and hybrid match on the other hand is godlike. Outside of trigger, the ergos are hit or miss, but generally very solid guns.

get a west german 226 instead of the anchor

I own a USP 9mm and a G17+26. Therefore I have no valid opinion on the P226.

The USP is my favorite handgun that I own. It fits comfortably in my hand. For those that say it's like a "brick", you'll just have to hold one for yourself to see how you like it. I've fired 2,000+ rounds through it without any fuckups and have found it to be very soft shooting and accurate. My Glocks are also good guns, but recently I've had some problems with my G17. Ejection of brass has been very inconsistent and frequently hits my face. My G26 still runs fine though. And honestly, this is pretty subjective of course, but Glock just feels boring.

I'd take the USP any day.

USPs are giant guns.