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>Hey! Don't release that slide, boy! You'll bend a spring!
Am I witnessing the birth of new fuddlore, or has this always been a thing?
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>Hey! Don't release that slide, boy! You'll bend a spring!
Am I witnessing the birth of new fuddlore, or has this always been a thing?
Yeah.
Always been a thing.
In short: It doesn't incur anything more than normal wear and is a part that requires replacement at a certain count just like any other.
Fucking boomers and their stupid fucking fuddlore.
That part where they said that their guns were falling apart after people were handling them after the NRA convention is all the reason I need not to buy a $3000 pistol that I have to baby all time (if the old geezers weren't lying).
So youre suppose to release the slide and hold it back, then let it fall forward?
No, you're supposed to release the slide on a full magazine. You should probably do it 100% of the time on every weapon though to keep up good habits, not protecting the weapon.
These are boomers talking about extremely expensive range toys, nothing a Jow Forumsommando could afford anyway.
>These are boomers talking about extremely expensive range toys, nothing a Jow Forumsommando could afford anyway.
pretty much
its the equivalent to dont try to chop down a tree with a thousand dollar heirloom knife go beat on it with some cold steel pos.
i saw some videos i didn't like today OP
will make threads later
There's literally no evidence to suggest that dropping the slide on an empty chamber will cause any noticeable damage to the locking lugs or sear/hammer interface on a 1911.
This. If the jarring of the slide slamming on an empty chamber is enough to damage your sear engagement or locking surfaces in short order, then your gun isn't going to hold up to containing a violent and rapid explosion followed by the slide slamming backwards. aka Firing it.
>retarded fudds buy 2000 dollar 1911's
>DONT DROP THE SLIDE IT WILL BREAK IT
Same thing with glocks anyone who says this shit is a retard.
why would you spend more money so your gun can work like shit
I've heard that you shouldn't use the slide lock to release because it Wil eventually egg out the holding cut and it won't hold anymore. It makes sense but I've never seen Proofs so I don't care. Only gun I slingshot the slide is my glock because the slide lock is stiff as fuck and tiny.
Why is this such a source of autistic butthurt? If you want to drop the slide on your 1911, absolutely nobody is going to stop you. If someone else tells you not to do something to their 1911, it's basic courtesy to not do it even if you don't think it really matters.
This. They don't put knurling on the top of the slide lock because it's not a slide release. One movement charges the weapon only and that's racking the slide. I don't want 2 different ways to charge my gun anyway, it should be as simple a tool as possible so as to not confuse under stress. Don't train bad tactics. Train your brain that if you need to charge a round you do the one movement that always reliably charges a round, pulling back on the slide.
Just 30 seconds in, just by seeing the intro i know i will have to deal with literal boomer fuddlords.
>not knowing who Hackathorn is
>believing he's wrong for no reason other than the generation in which he was born
Hackathorn is right about all of the points he brought up. Doing the Hollywood wrist flick shit bends the crane and/or ejector rod on a revolver. Go look around the pawn shops of the town where you live, and you're guaranteed to find at least one revolver that has been the victim of this kind of mishandling. Dropping a round into the chamber of an autoloading pistol and releasing the slide over it will eventually fuck up your extractor because said extractor is being made to operate in a different fashion than how it was designed to function. Wilson was right that dropping the slide (rather than letting it down gently) on an empty chamber puts MORE stress on it than actually firing it does because all of the potential energy that normally gets used by the various processes of chambering a round when the slide cycles goes back into the gun itself. The 2000 round test that pistol-forum pushes is meaningless because there is no real world situation where you will have to fire your pistol for 2000 rounds without cleaning it. Even someone who (stupidly) has no cleaning supplies on hand during Civil War II or some other period of serious social disorder will have access to non-detergent motor oil.
t. wilson combat owner with a broken 1911
Yes, Bill Wilson is a giant moron who knows nothing about 1911's. It's not a big ask to ride the slide home on an empty mag or don't flip a revolver cylinder home. Especially when it's not your gun and especially when it's a 3000+ dollar gun.
>DUDE OLD PEOPLE LMAO
Just a few minutes in. He's actually right about what he's saying, regarding dropping the slide on a dry gun. Especially with tight-tolerance competition pistols, that sort of thing can cause more wear on the mechanisms.
T. machinist
>T. machinist
This is like a fast food burger flipper giving advice to a rancher because they both work with cows and cow products. If you can't explain how the sear shelf is being damaged by the slide dropping on an empty chamber, as they state in the video, then your credentials are as meaningless as the burger-flipper's credentials.
It happened on my Sig SP2022 and someone else's HK USP but I've never seen it on anything else. I think it's because of the way the slide lock/takedown lever is setup and ends up with both parts getting rounded down slightly.
I just slingshot everything now and don't think about it.
Also to elaborate, you have to specifically look for it and it doesn't actually change anything. It may be possible to eventually fuck it up this way but I've never seen anything but cosmetic.
so do you not use the bolt release on ar15s?
based yeah-poster
Understanding mechanical wear and how tolerances affect fit and damage sensitivity are core components of machining, it's more like a farmer and a butcher. Because being a butcher requires actual skill and knowledge of your product.
It's almost as if they forget that they are handling firearms, designed to contain a small detonation within the chamber and the encompassing forces as a result, many times over.
If a gun is going to incur damage w/o even firing a round, I don't want it ever speaking to me or my son ever again.
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