Shit/Bad modern tanks thread

I start, TAM 2C

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Arjun

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kys yourself

Wtf is that? a marder hull with a leopard1 turret?

Best leo girl coming through.

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>light tank
>made specifically for the conditions it will operate in
>no real chance of fighting modern mediums
>bad

You’re an idiot.

>thinking War Thunder faggots know shit about tanks

What's bad about the TAM? I only know it from War Thunder, and well, that game is a little retarded.

Name 1 possible battlefield which doesnt have T-72s

All of south america.
Actually, does Ven have T-72s? Could either Arge or Ven even strike at one another?

Fuck off wumao. There is literally nothing wrong with this tank and it's better than any chinkshit you bugs make.

>nothing wrong
So it's *supposed* to shit itself like a T-14 on parade then.

yeah mate. Im the guy defending the TAM and I have to say, the Arjun is irredeemable.

>ching Chong ping pong
The 50 cent army is fast

Only loved by mutts.

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>Indian Internet Defence Force is on the scene

I have yet to see a 'jeet refute this.

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Yeah okay pajeet. Anyone calling you out for building a tank with welds that the Stalingrad tractor factory would have rejected has to be chinese.

>no cover over turret ammo storage
>Indian developed apfsds - 300mm at 1000m
>not shit

I said it was shit, dipshit.

Sick burn.

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Literally every Abrams varient.

it would involve crossing both the andes and the amazonas jungle, so fat fucking chance

don't worry, that's all that retard knows as well

>a fucking T-55

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American Sheridan

>Unreliable engine
>152mm Gun recoil is hard enough to knock out electronic and communication radio EVERY SINGLE TIME firing.
>Thin aluminium armour. Basically melted against basic RPG-2/7 rounds.
>Very low rate of fire. 2 rounds per-minuted max. This including panicked crew tries to restart electronic module due being knocked out by 152mm gun recoil.
>Cramped interior that more suited for small stature Asian than common American.
>ATGM System are useless.

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The hemisphere it was designed in, retard. The first T-72s in the Americas went to Nicaragua and Venezuela in the late 2000s, the TAM was designed decades earlier.

>Penetration, Cum-Blast

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Every tank from Europe.

Actually it's a lot different from the T-55. But they are comparable

This is real life, where the "no armor best armor" physics dont exist

Also, its got shit chasis and gears that gets stuck with fucking bushes

Absolutely O B S E S S E D and S E E T H I N G yuropoor cries some more

More like Arjunk lmao

I can't believe that nobody mentioned the Asad Babil. I'm disappointed. The Asad Babil is quite likely the absolute worst tank made after 1945. The absolute fucking worst.

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And what is exactly bad with it? Care to elaborate?

>made specifically for the conditions it will operate in

Its get stuck on small rocks and logs, even bushes

>no real chance of fighting modern mediums

Chile has leopards 2a4, Brasil has leopards 1

I doubt conflict with any other country, prolly UK, but we already know how it ends alrwady

Elaborate please

Euros just cant stop crying for us, utter subhumans jealous that they're getting mogged to absolute shit by America daily. We live rent free in euro heads and tap dance on top of their brains

Most possible scenario is Argentina-Chile conflict

There's little evidence that they were actually built, though.

>Saddam wants a locally produced tank.
>A supertank.
>Build a factory with DDR and Polish help, establish an assembly line

>The basis of the project was the T-72M, the dumbed down export version of the T-72
>The T-72M is already one of the worst modern tanks
>The Iraqi make it even worse
>Inaccurate main gun
>Unreliable engine
>Shoddy worksmanship
>Sights are sub-par

Iraq's tank divisions barely even knew which way they are getting turboraped from.

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it's not though

Shit thats awful, makes me feel better about the TAM, thanks

You do understand that there are countries that hate China other than India, correct? In fact, I think it's fair to say that most of their neighbors harbor some animosity towards them. Dismissing anyone that insults China as some buttblasted Indian is about as dumb as Americans assuming all of their criticism is from Venezuelan shills.

Yeah,that 152m gun was absolute garbage.It also ruined the M60 and the MBT-70 and cockblocked the Delta.
Fpbp.The Arjun is the worst "modern" tank.

>This is real life
Yes, I know. That's why I said WT is retarded.

sure its the Arjun?
what about the Turk Altay

>Posts tank undefeated in combat
KEK

>worst
Chinks wasting trips

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I have far more faith in the roaches than the pajeets desu and that ain't saying much

Needs work.

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God damned Germans should shut their kraut sewers and watch superior nations duke it out on the training field

We are specifically dealing with a currynigger who is assblasted that the Arjun was an unrecoverable failure that makes the Tejas look relatively successful.

The Altay works and is assembled correctly.

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>euros
>implying that post was made by anyone but a vatnik

>unlike
No, they have shit side armor as well, particularly around the turret bustle

>modern

Retard.

I heard the ATGM was pretty good the one time they actually used it - in 1991.
>>Thin aluminium armour. Basically melted against basic RPG-2/7 rounds.
And .50cals. Then there's those vulnerable charge bags that had a tendency to rip and spill, so the crew ends up with a floor covered in propellant ready to ignite.

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If by made specifically for the conditions you mean being poor.

The current year Taiwanese mbt. How is this supposed to defeat Chinese ztz99s?

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>only combat it's ever seen was driving through empty desert
>"undefeated"
great job

>The T-72M is already one of the worst modern tanks
Except when it was actually modern it curbstomped every westshit tank it bet in combat.

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>M48 with L7

Shit really? They really are banking their entire defense strategy on US intervention arent they?

This is what happens when you're decades behind technology and your only experience stems from a small border spat with your neighbor using T-64s

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They are getting M1 Abrams soon

That's an M60

>M48

It's an original M60. That's fucking incredible since the US refitted every single one they had in service to the A1 turret.

Wat

It's equivalent of a T-72M1, aka T-72A

>ATGM System are useless

Not useless, just extremely shitty and relied on the enemy being a certain distance away and not knowing you're there to begin with. If you could actually shoot the missile at something you were probably going to get a kill.

What tank has it curbstomped

killed a fuckton of Abrams in Desert Shield

Dat. Try learning history outside of american state propaganda echo chamber. T-72M has been slaughtering westshit during the Cold War.
M47, M48, M60, Chieftain - every westshit that has been thrown at it during the Cold War.

Oh looked like one of those retrofits like what the Germans or Isrealis used

>believing armatard

Xe's never been right about anything. The butthurt xir displays is insane

if china manages to get tanks on the ground on taiwan it's already over

If your referring to American forces in Iraq then only 23 abrams were taken out of action what is your source
So it takes out older tanks big whoop

Not really

t-90s destroyed by a fucking T-62 firing training ammo

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if the us doesn't intervene it is

Horry shit, that's a T-90A. Details?

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Yet thats still much more effective than anything the chinks can throw at them

>TAM 2C
Enormous gas-guzzler, vast logistical trail, needs constant maintenance (far more than other MBTs), vulnerable in the field to every threat, many lost in Gulf War 2, more than half now unserviceable and rusting in the desert.

China is a paper tiger for sure, but they still have plenty of gen 3 MBTs that can take a shot from an M68/L7. Especially since I doubt that gun can fire APFSDS.

A derivative of the best Cold War tank will easily bead whatever monkey model T-72 clone that the Chinks have regardless of what they claim to have on it. Hell, what the Taiwanese have could easily beat anything the Russians have today

only euros seethe this much about abrams

>General Shekelstein, this brand new tank T-72 katsaps sold to syria is getting killed easily by our TOWs, but from looking at the burned wrecks we think that this frontal armour is kind of almost strong enough to be a problem
>Oy vey, moshe, just call US goyim and tell them to glue a stick in front of the antitank rocket , you shmondak
>*T-72 explodes even more, hand rubbing intensifies*

This is a true story, btw

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They claim to have an equivalent to kontakt 5 which is pretty damn good armor, I cant really speak to the true effectiveness because the shooting hasn't started yet.

Except for, y'know, the years of actual combat in both open and urban environments.

The Shillelagh was bleeding-edge technology at the time.

Really, the worst thing about the Sheridan wasn't so much any one thing as that because it was half-baked in so many little ways it pretty much killed the entire idea of a light/airborne tank in the US.

Yeah, when ATGMs weren't in the hands of the insurgents.

>turret not on the hull

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Help me Jow Forums.

Why do tank threads draw such raging autists? It's nothing but a shit flinging session of, "My dad is better than your dad!" Why do these threads fall to shit so quickly?

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>light/airborne tank
Did it really? There were various programs throughout the 70s, 80s, and 90s culminating in the M8 Ridgeway which almost entered service.

The CM-11 is an M60 chassis with an M48 turret but with the L68 gun and a modern FCS.

The ROC does operate some CM-12 tanks, which is just a straight-up M48 with a new gun and FCS.

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Yeah. The engine is Abramms' biggest problem but other than that it's a decent tank. Not like Callenger 2 or Leopard 2 are any better.