F35 is Shit, Confirmed

>stealth paint

Its called LO (Low Observable) paint, retard

Any official sources? Or did these journalists magically get hold of some "sekrit dokuments"?

You should be red flagged for your inability to click a link and read the article but since I care about retards I’ll give you a hint

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>1.5 trillion dollars
>still so many deficiencies
>still produce it to save face and to not delay the program (even more)
>still have face to criticize other countries programs

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sekrit documents

JPO confirms but “Itell be alright y’all”

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Yeah, let's got back to the good old days where we rushed out F-16s and F-14s so quickly they were literally falling out the sky because nobody bothered to see if the engines actually worked.

>The 13 deficiencies include:
>1. The F-35’s logistics system currently has no way for foreign F-35 operators to keep their secret data from being sent to the United States.
The very first item indicates why. It's less a warfighting tool and more of a method of controlling and monitoring the vassal states within NATO. America and by extension Israel will play the part of big brother.

Links to your own website is not a real source you humongous retard.
Atleast you tried to look like you had an IQ that was above freezing.

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user you do realise that the article is fake and gay unsourced claims right?
The """"""sources"""""" they use are other articles written by them which are also either unsourced or use other articles written by them, its just a big rabbit whole off unsourced claims trying to look like sourced claims.

Concurrency

You might want to call 911, you appear to be having a stroke. Or a case of acute retardation

>Ameriblob and Britpaki engineering

This is what happens when you allow Mexicans and Pakistanis to build things.

>1.5 trillion dollars
Yes, that is the planned total cost through 2070.
>still have face to criticize other countries programs
This is because, despite the F-35 program's issues, countries like Russia and China consistently manage to lag behind the US.

> The F-35’s logistics system currently has no way for foreign F-35 operators to keep their secret data from being sent to the United States.
> The spare parts inventory shown by the F-35’s logistics system does not always reflect reality, causing occasional mission cancellations.
> Cabin pressure spikes in the cockpit of the F-35 have been known to cause barotrauma, the word given to extreme ear and sinus pain.
In very cold conditions — defined as at or near minus 30 degrees Fahrenheit — the F-35 will erroneously report that one of its batteries have failed, sometimes prompting missions to be aborted.
> Supersonic flight in excess of Mach 1.2 can cause structural damage and blistering to the stealth coating of the F-35B and F-35C.
After doing certain maneuvers, F-35B and F-35C pilots are not always able to completely control the aircraft’s pitch, roll and yaw.
> If the F-35A and F-35B blows a tire upon landing, the impact could also take out both hydraulic lines and pose a loss-of-aircraft risk.
> A “green glow” sometimes appears on the helmet-mounted display, washing out the imagery in the helmet and making it difficult to land the F-35C on an aircraft carrier.
> On nights with little starlight, the night vision camera sometimes displays green striations that make it difficult for all variants to see the horizon or to land on ships.
> The sea search mode of the F-35’s radar only illuminates a small slice of the sea’s surface.
> When the F-35B vertically lands on very hot days, older engines may be unable to produce the required thrust to keep the jet airborne, resulting in a hard landing

Top kek

WHAT!?!?!

>not a real source
That's a new one in the F-35 cope arsenal. Impressive.

That's what happens when you let pajeets design and niggers build your planes.

The only reason anyone even buys that POS is because of the whites and jews working overtime in the PR department.

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Every plane ever built has a list of type faults discovered in operational use.

stealth is a fucking meme

Even salvs peasants with 2 forks and 1 AA battery could locate a stealth fighter.

Yeah except that not many planes are known to choke out their pilots during routine flights lol.

Next time, design and build your plane yourself and you shouldn't have those problems. Oh wait, you can't, since whites don't study STEM subjects, only pajeets and other non white immigrants do.

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Well let me ask you think, how is it supposed to be a real source when it just links to other articles that have no source claims or is just a rabbit whole of other articles with no sourced claims.
You anti F35 shills are grasping at the straws for this one.

i didn't ask for your opinion Jow Forums.

>sources say

goalpost, moving office

How the fuck is my post related to Jow Forums in anyway shape or form?

Shame Syrian AA doesn't know about these deficiencies.

not him, but probbaly your faggy """"""quote-makrs""""""

the US needs to give up on fighter jets NOW and develop dogfighting drones.
> infinite Gs, no problem
> lighter, faster, quicker turning
> cheaper like hell, after initial R&D

the biggest reason of all: we could never train pilots quick enough to eat losses like the chinks
the sooner we can crank out drones, the more valid the burger bug repellant will be

the F35 is a distraction and a waste of money.
It's hopelessly obsolete and the faster we pull the plug, the safer we will be

We don't need to train pilots quick enough if we kill chinks with impunity, which we will due to their complete inability to see the F-35 before the F-35 sees it.

the weak must fear the strong, but the strong gotta fear the many.
Picture an f35 that killed 8 chink jets.
everybody knows where it is now, it's out of ordnance and the chinks got 6 more fighters coming

we need logistical and numerical superiority, neither of which can we obtain without unmanned aircraft

>everybody knows where it is now
False.

They just know they lost 8 jets. The F-35 is long gone. Localized superiority, defeat in detail.

you're assuming the mememagic works.
you're assuming chink detection never improves.
you're banking on pilots being able to survive and pass their knowledge down.
you're depending on finding smart, trustworthy burgers and then flogging them through an entire basic training then a year-long pilot training course, without a drug infraction

or we could build a machine to do it, better and faster for less money.
if you and i fought a war against each other, i'd beat you

>you're assuming the mememagic works.
The world thinks it works, as every nation of note is developing platforms that employ it.

>you're assuming chink detection never improves.
Detection is not tracking retard.

>you're banking on pilots being able to survive and pass their knowledge down.
There is no knowledge to pass down. MAW goes off, they go boom. End of story.

>you're depending on finding smart, trustworthy burgers and then flogging them through an entire basic training then a year-long pilot training course, without a drug infraction
This is already done in the us at a far larger scale than any other nation on earth.

If you and i fought a war i would EW your assets and fucking laugh.

Sure is summer in here

no, you'd lose. you already lost control of your emotions, why do you think you could get me with an airforce.
weak mind and heart

Further, any meme magic is going to work a lot better on an airframe that has had the heavy, fragile weakest link removed.
If you can hide a big plane good, hiding a little plane is going to be absolutely lethal

No wonder the Turks and Hindus want Ruski and Chinese jets.

xD

>ur mad XD
Says the man with zero substantive response. Didnt read a word past your brainlet first post.

Shameful.

>referring to whites as a separate group
>implying you’re not white
kek

The US Air Force F35 Joint Program Office confirmed the category 1’s with the Defense News. That is a direct source confirming Defense News’ reporting. Eject your head from your asshole LM shill.

>numerical superiority
The US plans on procuring over 2,000 F-35s iirc. Numerical superiority isn’t going to be an issue.

>Jams your drones
>Cripples your communications network
Also you still have to train drone pilots which is not going to save you that much time and money. You are also relying on your drone control system not being vulnerable to cyber warfare attacks.

> gets called mad
> proves it
lmao

this is why you and your nation will lie in ash and ruin - you refuse to learn
the only chance america has for continued viability is to maintain an edge over the chinese war machine.
if the chinks can make even 1 plane that could touch the F35 on a good day with a little luck, they will use that plane to bury us.

We need to be so far out in front that they can't even see us.
That's not where we are now. Ultimately, we can't get there in a plane that has meat inside.

See how shitty they are while they destroy your entire air force this month in Iran, chink/vatnik shill

> what is autonomy
i'll throw you a bone: it's the answer

if thats the case, why didn't they shoot down more F-117s when they had the chance

>ur toats mad lmao
Oh yes i am totally seething you caught me. Would rather be mad than a retard such as yourself.

CRYING
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I'll take that over Wang Zheng replacing the fuel lines with bubble tea straws connected with duct tape because he wanted to pocket the difference for his condo in Vancouver

you're still shilling for the old tech which is growing obsolete faster every day

There are many Americans in the defense industry that loathe the monopolies that have been allowed to be created in the MIC. Back in 70-90’s there was real competition between primed. Now we get this system integrator bullshit where they farm out enough work to satisfy the “supply base”. This socialism-light approach helps create gigantic budget draining failures. I’m not going to suck Lockheed’s dick because ‘Murcia.

Incorrect.

We will see in a month another desert storm and another chink/vatnik coping that the pilots were sandniggers so it doesn't count

The Iranians fly western aircraft almost exclusively. They’ve got like 7 working F-14s and mostly F-5s, though, so it’ll be a short air war.

I'm refering most to obvious vatnik and chink equipment that Iran will surely get in the event of the war

> i'm not obsolete
what do you have that could shoot this down?
keep in mind, this is a fucking toy.
Good military dogfighting drones are the only answer

video:
youtube.com/watch?v=H6Z94KVGhXw

Titanium, ceramics, rockets and onboard flight logic.
That's all that stands between the fighter pilot and his demise.

>EW does not exist

>onboard flight logic

>limited and baitable, unable to handle anything other than basic BFM, strategically non existent.

>strategically non existent.
dingdong, that's literally my point. The f35 money would have been better spent here

>still gets EW and blinded

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The russian's don't have one and the J-31 is a MiG-29 with a body kit.

For what its worth, defensenews has been running F-15EX adds for the past month

Sending a solo fighter out into combat means something went horribly wrong, especially for the US, who has a bazillion fighters in the inventory

>USAF size: 5,047 manned aircraft
>PLAAF size: 3,010 aircraft

We have both quality and quantity, brainlet.

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>Implying the Chinese aren't the bugs in this situation

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Show us where, you lying yuropoor. Because I sure as fuck ain't taking your word for it.

"""This""" is not the same thing as (((this))), (((this))) means jews, """this""" means bullshit or fake,
In other words """this""" is not Jow Forums but (((this))) is.

>akshualley we are the real humans!!

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I just ate a double del with del scorcho sauce.

This is the least credible claim in this thread, nobody's that powerful

Mutts logic
>the F-35 is invincible one f-35 can """""quarterback""""" a squadron of other jets and make them invincible too!
>we need about 500 of them to counter the 60 or so chinks J-20 just in case

I can smell the fear kek

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>we need about 500 of them
Actually closer to 2,500 or so. Turns out a 5th gen F-16 replacement is a pretty enticing idea.

that sounds splendid. We can just print more money anyway. 20 carriers are also needed to deter the enemies.

We also need about 40 zumwalts and 120 Burkes to overwhelm coastal defenses.

There is also a shortage of pilots so I propose we double their salaries and train 1 million more pilots.

I mean, the DOD is pretty confident about funding the F-35, considering they've already planned funding out to 2070 (which is where the often-misunderstood $1.5 trillion number comes from). Continued air dominance is one of the primary priorities of US military planners, so it's unlikely they're going to let that lapse anytime soon.

Give link so we can see the data. The F35 has had a lot of problems in development and testing that have since been engineered out.

The link is in the OP, how does your sphincter taste?

Oof, big yikes. Confirmed by Obama News Service.

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>if the chinks can make even 1 plane that could touch the F35 on a good day with a little luck, they will use that plane to bury us.
I'm not really sure what you're getting at here, sounds like some wax poetic silliness to sound dramatic. There's way more that goes into an air war than the capabilities of a single fighter.

> he chooses an argument that is equally valid to a human pilot
nice

They called it the blunder of the century

Only wise persons in this thread so far, waow color me impressed. Can Jow Forums be saved at this point?

These contradicting Jow Forumsretins are so much far gone they can't even listen to what the freaking GAO and JPO have to say... Aka "the people who know".

It's like not listening to the surgeon telling you what's happening with your body and prefering to use voodoo medicine to appease the evil spirits who torment your health...

Shilling for the F-35 is a hell of a drug.

The Avionics are next level but retard plebs only care about speed and maneuverability. Large scale WVR air combat hasn't happened since what, the 50s or 60s?

(((((())))))

Laser weapons in a defensive and limited-offensive role will change all of that. It doesn't matter if you can launch a missile without breaking stealth from half the world over if it gets shot down at the literal speed of light. That's when good old guns and dogfighting will come back into play, because planes at least are big enough to not be so easily burned through by the energy beams.

The F-35 has a laser module planned to fit in lieu of the VTOL engine for the models that have it. Probably not as ideal as if it were built around it however.