As in be militarily defeated, so no pointless dicking around in Afghanistan or non-action after 72 in Nam. Which was the last conflict where the US could have genuinely been defeated? >Korea? Not a defeat, the threat of soviets kept us from defeating the chinks >WW2? the axis were basically lost from 1941 onwards
Do we have to go pre 20th century to find a war we could've lost realistically?
Maybe the Civil War if the British had decided to back the confederacy. Even then, I’m not sure if the Royal Navy would’ve been able to break the Union Blockade.
Gabriel Long
The Plains Indian Wars could've been a total disaster for the U.S. if the Native Tribes opposing the U.S. didn't either steer clear or kill each other for the better part of the 1800s.
Probably only the very first one, if France decided to stay out of it. Sheer resource disparity meant theres not much chance of losing in any war after that.
Justin Gonzalez
Yeah, that could’ve gone a lot worse.
Juan Rivera
Somewhere there is an entertaining timeline where a Brit squadron bombarding Washington sees this little ambulatory cheese box with guns sticking out of it steaming slowly towards them.....
The one we're in now in Afghanistan. Also, Iraq and Vietnam.
Samuel Carter
How were the US militarily defeated there?
Dominic Brown
Neither side can overcome the other. Eventually the US and Taliban will come to the negotiating table or the US will just pick up and leave like in veitnam.
Jayden Diaz
MMMMMM, no. Did the US lose those wars, yes. But OP's question was militarily. And as to that no, we either are handicapped by politics and public sentiment or were. If we had been allowed to we could have just nuked all those countries. Just old school, anti insurgency like the brits did to the Boers in south africa. Just go patrol, someone attacks, you go the nearest town, take all the fucking food until they turn them over. If they dont burn the village and force them into camps. The US military was perfectly capable of winning any war, since after WW1, with little issue. Now actually committing to doing what is required to win is a whole separate thread best left to /his/ or Jow Forums
Owen Walker
NATO was significantly outnumbered in Europe.
Oliver Collins
>axis were basically lost from 1941 onwards No, they were lost when they stop winning battles, ie 1942
Noah Barnes
Battle of britain cost too many resources, and the failure to overwhelm the red army in 41 meant they could organize. 41 and 42 still had victories, but the war overall was lost.
Adam Sanders
What do you consider a "war?" Bay of Pigs was a fucking mess, but one military operation can't exactly be considered a "war." The "War" on Drugs is the laughingstock of the country and the world at large, fraught with incompetence (like gunwalking) and ineffectiveness, but this is a "war" fought mainly by politicians and police, not so much soldiers beyond the Coast Guard.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States If you just scroll through Wikipedia's list of wars the US was involved in, there are scattered "losses" like the Laotian Civil War, but US wasn't exactly a leading force in that. US involvement in the Somali Civil War in the early '90s famously brought us Black Hawk Down and failed to meet American objectives, but the war is still going on and the US was again not a major faction in the war.
Nathaniel White
Cold war turning hot in Eighties.
Chase King
The US will never leave Afghanistan even if it means the slow genocide of the country. Immovable object meets unstoppable force.
Justin Martinez
The cold war was fucking wild when you think about it. It's one of the few wars where during the majority of it you couldn't accurately predict a winner either way. It would just be a pointless bloodbath.
Wish it happened
Anthony Morales
This. If anything the US will stay in Afghanistan just so their elite troops have a place to get some combat experience.
Sebastian Peterson
>Royal Navy would’ve been able to break the Union Blockade. warrior alone could btfo the whole american navy the monitor was so shit it sank on its own
The Chinese might have been able to push out the Americans in Korea. It ended in a stalemate after all
Jaxson Mitchell
That would have risked getting the US really pissed off though. Hence why they didnt try.
Jaxson Edwards
You are wrong actually.
Liam Reyes
Lol HMS Captain.
Jackson Gutierrez
WWI
Luke Hill
>thousands of Americans dead >billions of dollars wasted >American prestige tarnished >led to an erosion of traditional American rights and liberties >American society becoming increasingly unstable as a result of the economic and political problems the war is causing
Liam Williams
1812, we don't stand a chance now but we absolutely memed on you guys back then
Elijah Wright
I'm not sure. I guess the last war which they lost which was the Somali Civil War. It depends on how you define defeated though.
1812 was the last war a foreign power could've military defeated the US and enforced terms. The Civil War was the last war the Federal government could've lost if the South had foreign support. To be honest the US never had an appetite for "war". What we like is quick adventures like Mexico, Philippines, WW1, and the Boxer Rebellion. The American people have always wanted mostly for the world to fuck off and maybe have a fight once in a while. Unfortunately they're also extremely naive and American politicians have always wanted to enforce their worldviews.