Non-American here. What’s the difference between the Army and the Marines?

Marines are an expeditionary force, which means the president gets to send them off as he likes without formally declaring war.

The individual Marines who prove themselves competent enough to be trusted with Navy equipment instead of the junk rejected by all other branches.

>Coast guard
This but unironically

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Marines are Naval infantry and an expeditionary force. They do amphibious landings and are typically the first to be sent to the fight.

Marines. Their PT standards are higher, boot camp is longer and more difficult, there are less of them and they are more selective. There about 200,000 Marines total and over a million in the Army. The typical Marine will deploy more and see more combat than a typical soldier. They are the finest infantry force in the world.

both are like volunteering to goto prison and are casually gay.

>casually gay
marines are aggressively gay (but it's not gay because of sleeves down or in the field or it's a day ending in y or we're on libo and so on and so forth)
t. former grayon eater

one rapes 12 y/o Japanese girls, the other doesn't

Marketing. If you ask a marine they'll tell you Chesty Puller win the entire PTO with himself and and a rifleman in a rubber raft. Rowed all the way to Japan and punched Tojo in the face and singlehandedly won the war.

The greatest trick the Marines ever pulled was convincing the world the US Army took no part in the Pacific despite having 3 times as many infantry divisions in the theater as the Marines did.

Sources:

Marine here.

Moto rah rah bullshit aside, the Marines typically have higher standards in terms of PT and behavior. We have an abysmal budget and usually work with antiquated equipment. There are no bonuses or incentives offered for Marines to stick around, meaning that we use more of the rah rah moto shit to keep people around.

We are not the first to fight, we are not more elite, we are not objectively or universally better than the army. We are, however, entirely designed to create and maintain a breach over beachheads and otherwise restrict terrain for follow on forces.

Air Force

Army is generally organized into Brigade Combat Teams of different variations for direct engagement, these can be Striker units, Armored units with Bradleys and Abrams tanks, Air mobility units, or straight up line infantry. BCTs or the larger units they are attached to have their own artillery support as well. There are exceptions to this, like Airborne or air mobile units like those in the 82nd or 101st, which may rely more heavily on other units for heavier support equipment. The Army also deploys with its own sustaining capabilities. This is more and more becoming the job of National Guard and Reserve units. As such the Army has its own supply, fuel, medical, evacuation, and sustainment units. When the Army deploys in theater, at least how its SUPPOSED to work in conventional engagement, is initial footholds are secured, infantry pushes forward, and rear and support units build up supplies. This foothold may also be gained by airborne troops initially securing airfields and then acting as light infantry.

The Marine Corps is similarly organized into Marine Expeditionary Units, but they are much more heavily armed and armored, as each MEU is usually stationed onboard a Navy ship, and will have its own amphibious assault vehicles, and an embarked airwing, currently utilizing AV-8 Harriers but soon using F-35Bs, In terms of doctrine, in the field the Marines are more nimble, do not have their own sustainment capabilities, leaning on the Navy for supplies and medicine services, and typically maintain more firepower in a smaller unit, but again it varies.

In terms of weapons there is little variation. Both services utilize M4s, though the Marines utilize the M27 as a DMR/AR now.

Marines are more motarded. Army is larger and thus tollerates more fuckups.

Having worked with both, the units that know their shit, genuinely know it. Both have retards but the Army has many, many more.

*Merchant* Marine

Marines permanently tarnished their record in the Iraq war and the Army has always been the low effort branch.

Right and how many times in your entire service have you practiced seizing an enemy port before it can be demolished, or even just a full on MAGTF landing? Maybe once? Marines no longer have much connection to the Navy, they are just a slightly more autistic group of three heavy infantry divisions that might as well be army. They Navy uses them as a secret second budget to get more jets and carriers but have it appear that they are for or will support another branch in a major war. Which they won't.

Pretty much this. With one addition. Marines are too eager to send their troops assaulting to an objective when it is not needed, often leading up to unnecessary loss of life, but they're a bunch of good guys besides that fact.

>abysmal budget and usually work with antiquated equipment
>this meme again
Marines always have good shit check out rear echelon Army and the Reserves if you want to see real shit equipment.
t. Reserve pog who deployed with an M16A2 last year

The Army just shows up after the fights are over.
TLDR: They're glorified mall cops.

No arguments there. There’s a large gap between doctrine and reality. As I said, rah rah bullshit aside, there’s not much of a difference.

Reserves are an entirely different level of abysmal.

i hear coast guards see actions all the time

some one told me military guys some times never even fire a single shot durring there entire tour

The Merchant Marine

I wanna fuck Jap lolis :(

the label on the bugdet

>Marines typically have higher standards

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>complains about getting shit gear
>literally a fucking reservist
well no shit active duty marines get better gear than any reserve unit. they still have a TON of old gear and this isn't stuck to their personal gear either, but pretty much everything along the logistics train that the USMC controls.

on the opposite side, as a marine i do think people inflate just how poor we are. yeah the marines are poor but we're not using shit from vietnam. they just dont allocate money to quality of life stuff for in the field or otherwise.
they also are shit for training opportunities and bonuses. when i was getting out, they were struggling to justify bonuses for an MOS that had

>almost made it to the fleet
didn't make it.
the corps gets its share of retards but at least they have higher physical standards, especially if you intend to promote.
as a boot if you aren't getting 1st class PFT/CFT then your promotion will be slower due to how much PT weighs into your promotion points. Especially in an MOS that is slow to promote to begin with so is hyper competitive.

The real difference is organization structure, culture, and mission statements. the marine corps is autistic for a lot of specific traditions and ceremonies. the indoctrination is real.
the corps nowadays just acts as a force capable of rapid mobilization anywhere via the MEU (aka navy taxi) but it's pretty much only done for shit like Haiti where you have humanitarian crisis.

maybe some day they'll actually unload grunts who shoot someone, but that day isn't on the horizon as far as I can tell.

Peace Corps.

Army has guaranteed contracts, shorter dep, automatic promotions to E-4, more schools, larger SOF community, and soldiers are generally not stationed with or transported by the navy.

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Essentially they operate the same except the USMC is smaller and has added Amphibious connitations. To understand why the USMC is the way it is (i.e. a second army) you have to understand the history of marines in general.
Prior to the late 19 and early 20th century Marines were anti bording forces on boats who could help with amphibious landing and stop crew mutiny. However as armies became more professional and liberalised the latter role became less important ergo marines were basically infantry on boats both USMC and Royal Marines fought in the boxer rebellion as they had troops stationed on ships which were then sent to china. The role of ship security so diminished as iron battleships engaged eachother over miles that Marines just became infantry with added aquatic connitations. The USMC and Royal Marines both fought in WWI as basic line infantry.
WWII however saw marines transform into their selected nations needs as truly total war took hold. For the UK the marines became the first commando unit for seaborne raids. After the only commando groups the British kept where the Royal Marines as their old role was pretty much obsolite (though they still do the traditional marine role with 43 Cdo FP Gp RM) which is why Royal Marines are commandos now with green berets ect. For the Americans the Marines were perfect for the pacific theatre whilst the Army was given the European theatre. This is why the USMC is basically a mini army as when fighting in the pacific they needed all the logicstics and excess that comes with being an army to beat the japs. This role just continued with Korea, then Veitnam and by that point the USMC was well established and had a long tradition which could not easily be abolished so they just kept them as a second army rather than transforming them back to the traditional marine role.
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marines do more drugs and they all lease autotragic chargers and do dip tobacco
army has more losers in it and they lease shitty trucks and vape excessively

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Lots of european nations have marine forces with rich histories (so they cant be abolished) but an obsolite mission of protecting fleets so they use them for unique purposes. French Marines have airborne, armoured, artillery, and infantry sub groups kinda like the USMC but are fully part of the army. Dutch Marines are a rapid reaction force that can deploy anywhere in 48 hours. Portugese marines are straight up special forces.
Countries marines were just adapted to fit areas that they needed filling as they were obsolite units with lots of culture and history surrounding them.
Danish marines were dispanded in 2000 after being founded in 1672 as they had no purpose for them :(

>Danish marines were dispanded in 2000 after being founded in 1672 as they had no purpose for them :(
good
traditions are fun and all but people need to admit when something is obsolete. time and technology march on, niggas need to stop clinging to the past that hard

Having watched every branch except coast guard perform combat operations live, I can say they're all pretty good.

Marines operations are poorly planned though and seem unreasonably long.

House suspected of making bombs? Better walk there from 10 miles away and clear three villages, and step on a dozen I.E.Ds

Compared to the army which would drive straight the fuck there and step on like two I.E.D'S

Rangers were real thorough with sweeping, and special forces paid people to sweep for them.

Marines are good for assaulting shit quickly, while army is more or less general purpose military.

Marines tend to be some of the oldest and most prestegious units (after guards units) in European militaries.
>USMC - 1775
>Dutch Marines -1665
>Royal Marines - 1664
>French Marines - 1622
>Portugese Marines - 1618
I like how some militaries can evolve their units and missions whilst maintaing traditions. The 82nd Division becoming airborne is a classic example in the US. France, despite having a special forces desinged on resistance SAS and Commandos in WWII, decided in creating a new special reconnissance unit. Instead of making one up like the bongs did with the SRR they turned a histroical cavalry/armored corps from 1676 into SF which is awesome. Shame denmark couldnt have evolved the Marines into a similar small SF unit or somthing more useful for their military instead of straight up abolishing it.

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Once upon a time the USMC had Very lax recruitment standards and extremely tough basic training.
They would except juvenile delinquents with one foot in prison and turn them in to disciplined marines.
>Sauce
> two of my uncles on their way to prison for getting drunk and assaulting a few people I a bar fight ended up getting sent to the marines.
Both served before and during the Vietnam war. Both had disciplinary troubles but did well in combat.

>oldest and most prestegious
and the navy is the "senior service" in canada and guess what, the navy is a fucking joke compared to the army and air forces

oldest does not necessarily mean best

Ok? Never said they were better. For European countries which existed independently before 1867 their navies and armies are probably quite prestigious. The Canadian navy claims heritage from the Royal Navy and the royal navy is seen as the most prestigious and historically significant force despite doing literally nothing since the Falklands and probably being the most incompetent.

As a whole the marines are more elite. They are a smaller organistion and their PT is more challenging. But if you only count people in combat arms like infantry and armor (people actually doing the fighting) and discarded support units then I would say its about the same. At the end of the day a platoon of Marine infantry and Army infantry are both just grunts and they aren't much different.

Army has more people at the bottom of the barrel but among the grunts, door kickers, and cannon fodder we are all the same.

Ok since you know know the difference between US Marines and US Army after reading this thread (maybe). The way to tell them apart in the field; the marines typically have beat to shit equipment leaking something but it works. Reserve Army and National guard units tend to have the oldest gear but not leaking something. After the middle east they both tend to be the same effectiveness but for political reasons the Marines tend to sent to do shit first because sending the army requires a higher national interest. Also Marines tend to throw everything in the supply chain at you if it has combat effect.
Marines tend to be more aggressive on a regional level because of how their missions work. Pretty much any US service guys you see the field now are combat experienced or lead by folks with lots of combat experience.

This is good.

state police

Air National Guard

Army Airborne units are the best. You cannot get into Rangers, SF, or Delta without being jump qualified. And most if not all of the best units in the military are former US Army. They are better equipped, better paid then any Marine or Navy Seal.
Just Hollywood has a interest in Seals because they project the cool surfer bad boy image. In reality, they are dangerous group of undisciplined thugs.
75th Ranger batallion would shit all over them in the field.

The Marines are a pointless branch of the military.
>muh amphibious landings
Half the troops in the Pacific hitting the beaches were Army.
D-Day? Biggest seaborne invasion ever? All Army. Not a Maureen in sight.

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I thought that once a grayon eater, always a grayon eater?

>We have an abysmal budget and usually work with antiquated equipment.
because 90% of budget goes to recruiting.
youtube.com/watch?v=mplEt-7HNR8

"Project Danny was a victim of the intense interservice rivalry that existed in the US armed forces during World War II; Army Chief of Staff General George Marshall stood up and walked out of the briefing: "That's the end of this briefing. As long as I'm in charge there'll never be a Marine in Europe."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Danny

Army are lazy welfare queens, Marines are lazy welfare queens who think they are better than everyone else.

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Boats.

one is an extremely large, and well equipped fighting force, and the other is poor retards.

you totally can go ranger without airborne

t. Buttblasted Soldier
The Army will literally take fucking anyone from anywhere. Theyre absolutely desperate for people. At least the marines have some way of washing people out; they may be brainwashed, but the army will take fucking anything

Marines have higher physical standards, but the Army has better equipment.

But the Marines have integrate combined arms, while the Army has to depend on the Navy and Air Force for fixed wing air support.

> Shame denmark couldnt have evolved the Marines into a similar small SF unit or somthing more useful for their military instead of straight up abolishing it.
Danish army SF carry on light infantry traditions. That shit has tradition going back to 1700's.

They established naval SF in 1950's.

Offically the Marines are the Naval infantry.

In reality, the Marines only mission is war. US army has tons of other missions such as peacekeeping and so on.

Marines also use a lot older equipment a lot of time.

> finest infantry force in the world
> not even the most elite/best marine force in NATO (get slapped about by Royal Marines every time they train together)

Marines think they are special forces because they are smaller than the army. Even though the army rangers do more combat roles than the marines.

>The typical Marine will deploy more and see more combat than a typical soldier.
Any idea how retarded that statement was?

Thanks for the acknowledgment

Fuck off army degenerate

>Army are lazy welfare queens, Marines are lazy welfare queens who think they are better than everyone else.
Pretty much this. National guard and coast guard are one of the few military branches that do shit that’s useful.

HECU

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Fuck the army. They are pussy S8yboys who too weak and stupid to join marines.

The Army is the occupational force and masters at land combat.

The Marine Corps is the expeditionary force and are masters at being jack of all trades, masters of none.

The Marines are a quick response mini-military with their own fixed aircraft, you can be a Marine Corps Fighter Pilot, you cannot in the Army. However the Army has a much larger Artillery arsenal.
Also you cannot be a combat medic in the Marines, you have to join the Navy and be a Corpsman.
Our Marines are probably more like the French Foreign Legion than the U.K.'s Royal Marines. In fact the Royal Marines and British Paratroopers are more Like our Army Rangers than U.S. Army Airborne. Army Airborne is just regular infantry that jumps out of planes.

>Our Marines are probably more like the French Foreign Legion than the U.K.'s Royal Marines.
>U.S. Army Airborne. Army Airborne is just regular infantry that jumps out of planes.
This is why you don’t take call of duty or battlefield games seriously.

>being to stupid to join the marines.

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Grown the fuck up. Marines are the traps. Why we don’t need the rangers.

One is unnessisary, the other is redundant.

There isn’t a difference. They both fight for Israel’s interest. They are all circumcised too.

>Tfw no face for this thread
The biggest and most appreciable difference is having joint units under a single chain of command. The Marines have boots, armor, fixed wing, rotary wing, and sea assets all under the Marine chain of command. No other branch does.

This may not seem like a big deal at first, but you'd be surprised at the ability of young fucks and boomers alike to completely fuck up the most basic of communication, logistics, or asset deployment, or even devolve into arguments over who outranks who while infantry are getting lit the fuck up and in desperate need of a JDAM.

This makes the USMC an exceptional expeditionary force or shock corps, while lacking the assets required to control a theater on their own.

>Too stupid to join the marines
May as well kill yourself, I don't know how you are even alive if your IQ is that low

This. The past couple of wars have seen Army and Marines basically doing the same jobs, but in general, that’s the big distinction. As the US seems to be transferring back to a peer warfare focus, the Marines have been reestablishing themselves in that role.

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