Tell me about strenght of french arms industry
Tell me about strenght of french arms industry
Gabriel Ortiz
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Henry Wilson
Its pretty good I guess
Luke Lee
it would be extremely painful
Mason Perez
probably because you are an ignorant faggot
Ryder Thomas
Of all the potential gear that they could have picked, the primary advantage the weapons and vehicles selected held over alternatives is that they were French.
Owen Adams
the french are owned lock stock and barrel by the rothschilds and they are broke...
Bentley Lewis
- a lot of really good engineers. The Rafale did better than the Typhoon even so it was made by only one little country while the Eurofighter was made by 4 europeans coutries
- an independant army, not like this one in Poland where they just suck the NATO dick every time
- a really good plane carrier wich is currently in India if don't say shit. But we need two lands carriers for sure
but
- Macron is a beta cuck who likes to give his ass to Germany, so it's in danger. We'll see
Mason Moore
the rafale specifically is a really good plane for its weight class, it's smaller and has less powerful engines than the typhoon yet carries more ordnance, has much a lower corner speed and minimum turn radius, and accelerates just as well clean.
plus it's the only non-american CATOBAR capable aircraft in the world, so by default it shits all over every other yuro, vatnik, and chink stobar carrier plane
Leo Brown
4U
Andrew Hall
It is robust enough to supply the French military, which is all that is expected of it.
Ayden Mitchell
Their aviation and firearms were rally good but ya slowly died. Except for aviation
Oliver Sullivan
Do the French have any small arms manufacturer nowadays?
Robert Brown
There are still manurhin, chapuis, verney-caron and an assortment of small-ish weapons manufacturer, though it's mostly hunting and sporting weapons, with a bunch of revolvers but occasionally dabbling in the ar-15 and ar-10 clones market.
Owen Clark
Well, you got yourself caught, what's the next step in your 'master plan'?
Landon Hill
> comment on France
> posts photo of Toronto, Canada
What did this anonymous retard mean by this?
Charles Reyes
> surprised that a thing made by one country & company better than one made all over the place
Countries love multi supplier & multi builder rules because it means their own arms industries can stay alive. Companies can love it too because it means they can build most of the stuff cheap and then have someone in the first world put the final screws in for a “made in murrica” (or similar) badge. Can you even name one thing which uses a transnational supply chain which isn’t complete shite?
Grayson Green
Not all of them are CATOBAR-capable. There is so little parts commonality between the Rafale M and the others models that it might as well not be a Rafale.
Landon Reyes
meant for
Levi Bailey
>strength of French arms industry
This strength is a combination of lax labor laws due to their socialist tendencies and shitty work ethic. Their foreign sales often compromise shady deals and bribery. When you have French equipment you can expect many and expensive repairs to make up for the cheap price they sold you on.
Joseph Phillips
Hi Steve, how's Australia at this time of the year?
Wyatt Reed
>socialist tendencies
>lax labor laws
Cooper White
>Their foreign sales often compromise shady deals and bribery
This is very true the rest of your post is just nonsense though.
Carter Perry
>Tell me about strenght of french arms industry
Total garbage outside of their shipbuilding sector. They actually managed to lose money on the only Leclerc sale they made.
Christopher Williams
Meaning among other things it's hard for an employer to fire dysfunctional employees. They need many reforms yet when they want little, incremental change to move them toward Northern Europe ideals they start rioting en mass like they do every other day. French are scum.
Grayson Bennett
One of three nations with a running 6th gen fighter developement.
Carson Russell
>running
Let's not get carried away. The project has all the time in the world to crash and burn several times.
Noah Walker
Spoken like a Bong.
Dylan Wilson
user, basically any good you own comes from a transnational supply chain
Christopher Smith
Crashing this threads...With NO MOD REPLIES..
Robert Bell
French actually
Liam Green
And most of it is shit. But I’m talking about complicated hardware built across language and culture barriers. Software is easier but still tricky, and something as basic as steel from one country used for another country’s plant is at least straightforward. But tiny little bits of very fault-intolerant hardware spanning different countries? Usually absolute garbage.
Samuel Peterson
still superior since the rest of europe still cannot into catapults
in any case rafale c has the same aerodynamics as the rafale m while being lighter as a result of not have to be catobar capable, meaning it's even more capable than the eurofighter
really the only problem the rafale has is that its stupid fucking expensive and costs almost as much as SAR APUC estimate for the Raptor
Hudson King
We still have small scale manufacturers like verney carron but we wouldn't be able to develop a branch new assault rifle and produce tens of thousand of them like the FAMAS.
On the plus side our politics did have a serious reflection about that matter and it was determined there are enough different suppliers of small arms and ammunitions on the market we wouldn't be stuck if a given supplier can't deliver any more, so they took the quite rational decision to use our limited defense budget to preserve other more strategicaly valuable elements of our industry.
Luis Reed
Not Aussie, just know the inner workings unlike the Aussies that shot themselves in the foot with French subs. Indians already report massive sound signature and major recurring issues with their Scorpenes.
This fucking arrogant nation always talks it's big mouth and uses the EU and trade organisations to push it's shitty products and at the same time does not conform to European procurement rules for their own needs and labels most acquisitions secretive to protect noncompetitive and subsided French industries in dire need of reforms and automation etc.
France is a backwards country and frankly the reason the EU should stop and the North should unite without the South.
Adrian Bell
Fuck this Thread
French arms
Owen Sullivan
>invents 90% of military jargon that’s still used today
>first to invent bullets like the minie ball and smokeless powder
Sebastian Myers
>words
>wrong
1st retards with the idea to use NC but failed. Alfred Nobel managed it later
Nolan Bennett
Meanwhile Germans
>invent the spitzer bullet
>create the greatest bolt action rifle in existence; action still used on nearly every subsequent bolt action ever made; rifle saw service all across the globe as every nation that could clamored to buy them
>create the first practical autoloading pistols
>create the anti-tank/anti-materiel rifle
>create the very concept of the assault rifle and field it
>continue to make groundbreaking advancements up to the present day
Meanwhile, France
>always late to the party, invents great guns a decade after they're outdated
>can't even maintain its own service rifle, has to send them to Beretta
>adopted a German rifle for their latest service rifle, pretty much ending any hope of domestic arms production in the future
The fact that the best achievements you can list for them are from more than a century ago should be the point where you realize France is irrelevant. What, are we going to call the Chinks the masters of gun technology just because they invented the shit (then subsequently got brutally dominated by westerners using their own invention?)
Jack Thompson
>What, are we going to call the Chinks the masters of gun technology just because they invented the shit (then subsequently got brutally dominated by westerners using their own invention?)
Proof: France will dominate the world again. Mutts BTFO
Nolan Adams
France isn't even on the level of worrying us. BTFO Italy first, then Britain, then if you're up to Germany. Once you're at the level of Russia you can be considered an actual independent nation.
Nathaniel Moore
i imagine their jets make a HON HON HON noise as they fly
Noah Lopez
>first tank to use rotating turrets that all tanks now made are based upon
>first to issue a military uniform
>first Air Force and leaders in aviation
>invented rifles canons
>the fucking bayonet
>formed the first ever corps
>invented naval periscopes for naval combat
Don’t talk shit anymore wehraboo
Jaxon Reyes
>french arms industry vs german arms industry
Im making a time capsule for my grand grand grand childern, im sure they laughing about this
John Sullivan
*Rifled cannons
Carter Gutierrez
*cucked nation
Alexander Fisher
G*rmany is more cucked than france to be honest.
Brandon Harris
Ironic
Jace Williams
Not even a Wehraboo, just rightfully recognizing they are more relevant in current year+3 than France has been for a hundred years. If I were sitting here having this discussion with you in 1880, then yes, you might be able to persuade me France is more relevant than Germany militarily. But we aren't there nor then. Anyway, America makes the best guns, and always will. Individual Americans did more than entire nations to modernize firearms.
>first to issue a military uniform
I didn't realize we were talking about Sweden
>rifling cannons
I like how you have to specify, because it was Germans that invented rifling.
>bayonet
The word is French, but they did not invent it.
Noah Nguyen
Best french weapon I know is the Truck of Piece.
Thtas french right?
Luis Collins
Its so funny to see have every bong and frog bitches about ``look at germany``. Its not a german thread, fucking retards needs some kind of deflection
Kayden Barnes
>>>>>>just rightfully recognizing they are more relevant in current year+3 than France has been for a hundred years.
Germany is barely relevant if it weren’t for them dominating the European Union
Sebastian Watson
>continue to make groundbreaking advancements up to the present day
>slap a piston on an AR-15
>groundbreaking advancement
lol
Kevin Russell
Chinks without copy and spy wouldnt at top3.
Shut up, im sure you made that mistake bacj in 1940
Mad frogs every week. Fuck yeah !
Anthony White
>Anyway, America makes the best guns
Only if you don't count Italy because we know no one can hope to compete with theirs. I know they're mostly just clones of german guns, but they perfect them. It's actually something the Italians have done since the ancient Romans.
The etrucans invented the arch, the italians built aqueducts and colleseums. The Carthaginians pionered naval warfare, the Italians perfected it and ruled the mediterranian. The Iberians invented the gladius, the Italians conquered the world with it. The Chinese invented the noddle, the Italians cooked it without dog. The germans invented cars and guns, the italians made them sexy. The greeks invented sex, the Italians introduced it to women. I could go one forever.
Gavin Murphy
Im a Hans and would buy a american gun if the EU wouldnt blast the taxes on me. And shut up, all we want is the M4 and M9 from italy.
US guns > German guns > Belgium,Swiss > Italy
Juan Bennett
Hmm
>develop an actual caseless rifle and prepare to field it; only the massive financial disaster of rebuilding a post-Communist nation derails the project
>develop the assault rifle itself
>create the best handgun
>create the second best handgun
>create the good enough handgun that is cheap enough the entire world adopts it (Austria is rightful German clay)
>create the best submachinegun
>create the best battlerifle, FAL a shit Belgiumniggers go jack off to severed African hands somewhere else
>so good at military invention the US and Russia race to kidnap as many of their scientists as possible
>creates an MBT everyone wants
meanwhile France
>made their own MBT because they're too stubborn to buy Leopards; nobody wants them
>can't even produce a modern rifle, hasn't had the capability to even repair their rifles for decades
>has to ask Italy for help
the fact that France of all fucking people did the impossible, swallowed their pride, and adopted a German rifle should tell you it's over.
Italian guns are pretty good. They're really good at shotguns, pretty good at pistols, not that great at rifles. Not that their rifles are bad, just other countries do it better.
Oliver Evans
>inplying you don't lust for a MAB 38
Eli Lewis
Whatever delusional wehraboo
Angel King
Yeah, statistica is delusional. Time for bed user, its 2am
Josiah Allen
>swallowed their pride
>factory that made the famas has been closed for years
Hmmm
Jayden Edwards
When a frog fears the daily NIGHTMARES
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Joseph Lee
Shiiiiit
Xavier Howard
>2,260,000
First I have seen that. Sounds made up
Hunter Fisher
Frogs fear the Krauts
Brayden Turner
>frogs fear the krauts
DOUBT
Sebastian Turner
Best in Europe apart from possibly the British. Also this large industry has allowed them to have the most powerful land force on the continent ignoring Russia.
Jaxson Richardson
>Best in Europe apart from possibly the British
Yeah
Ian Walker
To be fair, Trumps wife is an ex whore.
Ayden Anderson
Yeah, but they didn't have to go and buy a German gun. That's just embarrassing.
Christian Hall
ITAR free
Jeremiah Perez
>There is so little parts commonality between the Rafale M and the others models that it might as well not be a Rafale
Lies. M has different landing gear, sturdier rear frame with sturdier hook and a build-in boarding ladder and that's it. More than 95% parts commonality with C. In comparison F-35 variants are only 30-40% in common
Blake Cox
Joseph Jones
>one look at the numbers
>The defeated & captured army is counted as a casualty as if the germans actually killed 2 million frogs
the kill/wounded count is rounghly 180k vs 400k, far from a 20 to 1 victory
Not even a frog, but whoever used this to brag is a retard
Charles Cook
>1,900,000 captured
Levi Murphy
Well it's a valid political reason
Joshua Allen
It's by far the best in Europe and the use of French equipment by the french military is more than just a patriotic vanity project as alot of it is actually world class and economically viable.
One of the greatest travesties of the 20th century is the Suez Crisis especially for european arms industry.
If Britain had stuck with the French rather than crawl back to the Americans (not that they economically had much choice) their arms industry might be far stronger and more developed than it is today. Would have been awsome to see a FAMAS SA80 hybrid or a Europfighter Rafale. The fact that the SA80 has to be given as military aid in the majority of countries that use it rather than sold is telling.
For France suez allowed them to pursue their own arms industry more vigeriously especially with third world buyers thanks to francafrique (FAMAS actually sold to lots of Francophone countries rather than had to be given away) but also without britain ment that full military independence from america would be impossible. Berlin Plus is most detested by France who wants a complealty independednt European defence programme that does not rely on NATO.
By far the biggest looser though was the USA. Not only had it shat on its two major allies but France would leave NATO compleatly by 1967, britain became politically neuterd relying on the US arms industry which only trengethed its military industrial complex, Nasser had nationalised the canal because the US had cut development aid to egypt, and Nasser would still pivot to moscow despite Eisenhowers best efforts. The resentment from this cannot be understated. France hated the US for a time (and still do to an extent) and this has bled into the rest of europe. Britain (who had experience) refused to help the Americans in veitnam which could have helped prevent or at least supress to THE american desaster of the 20th century.
Ultimatly Suez strengthed French military arms industry but also severly limited its full potentual.