Which T-64/T-72/T-80/T-90 variant is the best?
Which T-64/T-72/T-80/T-90 variant is the best?
Brody Thompson
Caleb Flores
The M1A2 Abrams
Jaxson Reyes
Thanks Jow Forums
Christian Wood
T-90
Matthew Thomas
T90 obviously but i have a soft spot for the T72 and it's variants.
Jonathan Bennett
T80=T90>=T72-T64.... pretty much equal shit.
Hudson Young
T90M>T80U=T72B3M>T90A>T72B3>T80B
Nathan Hughes
T80BVM instead of T80U* and T80 instead of T80U*
Grayson Wood
fuck anyway
Tyler Sanchez
Might as well have just said you like all the T-72 variants
Eli Foster
t-90m/ms
Nolan Sanders
PT-91
Juan Gutierrez
Depends.Which one throws it's turret the farthest?
Owen Young
T-90MS > T-72B3 (because it’s cheap and effective) > T-90 (just because it’s good) > T-72B1MS (because of that rear camera) > T-80UK > T-14 > T-72B2 > T-72B > T-72A > T-72 Ural >T-64
Colton Richardson
The ones with a thermal sight, so the T-90A/T-73B3.
David Robinson
The wooden log of course
Ryder Cooper
T-64BV, T-72B3M, T-80BVM, T-90M.
Nolan Lee
>T-72M
>Light ERA
>Main armament 2A46M gun from the year 1980
>Made in pooland
Cameron Hughes
We'll see how PT-17 turns out. Looks promising.
Logan Phillips
Charles James
tiran 6 with the L7 gun
Isaiah Foster
T-90 > T-80 > T-64 > T-72
Cameron Moore
Oplot-M, as in-depth modernization of T-80
Blake Robinson
>T-64 > T-72
Jeremiah Garcia
It Will take 595 years for it to be put in Service
Hudson Allen
Probably the newest T-72B variant, which is the T-72B3M with independent thermal viewers, new carousel for long-rods, new gun drives and stabilizers etc.
Keep in mind the T-90 is just a T-72 variant, and not the latest or most capable one either.
John Lopez
>It's an actual T-72M1 with the original 1970s Soviet tier gun drives and worst version of the 125 mm gun..
Lmao, what a shit upgrade.
Angel Harris
Tbh, PT91M (export version for Malaysia) beaten both T-90, Oplot and chinkshit in the trials. This caused so much butthurt that even twenty years later ruskie are triggered by the mere mention of PT91.
What are the exceptional features of M model, that placed it above any mongol tank at time?
>new turret drive and proper gun stabilisation
>slovakian improved 125mm
>indigenous ERAWA and CERAWA armor, capable of defeating a shaped charge warhead with precursor
>French FCS, that ruskies only recently copied
>proper powerpack instead of legacy T-34 engine
>secure comms
Simply, an ideal example of European cooperation.
Brayden Richardson
please cockhole, triple layering blast cords without any proper rnd base is not proper armor
Evan Fisher
The T-90 series with the angular welded turret is the best one.
1/3
Daniel King
2/3
Adam Roberts
3/3
Isaac Perry
wypierdalaj
Connor Johnson
Please kys poolak
Carson Myers
I heard the T-64 is actually a better tank than the T-72 but the T-72 is cheaper and simpler
Alexander Gonzalez
What?
Yes I know there is.. Polish?.. In that pic, but it's not my pic; I just saved it because of the size and weight comparisons were handy.
Matthew Price
This is true, there’s a reason they exported the T-72 to whoever would take it but kept the 64 for themselves
Xavier Lee
Its much more expensive and is only marginally better than the T-72, not to mention the fact that it was virtually unsuited for service until the T-72 was already in production.
They were harder to build, it wasn't because they were much better.
Brayden Edwards
>I heard the T-64 is actually a better tank than the T-72
You heard wrong. T-64 had pretty much reached its upgrade limit in 1985.
Christopher Morales
Not him, but glorious reply, comrad Vatnik.
Thank you for your input and proving you're unable to reply in a merit fashion.
Kayden Martin
Brody Turner
You sure are quick to reply, dear friend, who is not at all an employee of russian propaganda garbage.
Oh wait, it's past 08:00 in Moscow, isn't it? I guess you just started work.
Hudson Young
Hudson Evans
Kayden Cook
Pretty much this.
T90M >T80BVM > T72B3M > T90A > T72B3 > T80U > T80BV > T-64BV = T-72B1 > T-80B > T-72B > T-80 > T-64B > T-72A > T-64A > T-64 > T-72 Ural
Anthony Rivera
T90M >T80BVM = T72B3 obr.2016 > T72B3 > T90A > T80U > T-72BA > T-72 obr.1989 > T80BV > T-72B1 > T-64BV > T-80B > T-80 > T-64B = T-72A > T-64A > T-72 > T-64
Ftfy.
Asher Powell
Ruskies still mad we were the only ones to take Moscow
Blake Thomas
>we were the only ones to take Moscow
Poolandish "education". Your nobility was driven out by a mob of peasants.
Isaiah Ward
still taken Moscow
Ethan Wright
It wasn't a military takeover at all, more like a foreign delegation invited by false monarch who were btfoed to oblivion by locals. Polaks otherwise are mad that Russia held their country for how many hundreds years? Lmao
Jose Phillips
>taken Moscow
In what siege, lol? Your nobility just walked in taking advantage of the political vacuum and stayed for a while after which they were driven out by a mob of literal peasants. Meanwhile, in just about 150 years Poland effectively disappeared from the map of Europe, and Russians actually did take Warsaw in an actual military siege. In two days.
Joshua Morales
PT-91M
Jayden Gray
ever t/ is a piece of shit but t-90
Ayden Cooper
>Poles kept the shitty old PT-91s for themselves while selling the better ones
are Poles retarded?
Eli Thompson
Not to forget that Poland never invented anything and that Europe when Poland wasn't a thing was it's highest point
Christian Sanchez
t-80U = t90 depending on exact upgrades
t80B < T80U
T72B3 is kind of equal to t80 U but abit inferior, depending on upgrades, t64
T90 A is probably the best all around
also T90 MS is probably the best tank in the world right now or atelast top 5
Gabriel Ramirez
Don't forget this utter pwnage:
>On the morning of 17 May 1606, ten days after Dmitry's marriage to Tsarina Marina, a massive number of boyars and commoners stormed the Kremlin. Tsar Dmitry tried to flee, jumping out a window, but fractured his leg in the fall. He fled to a bathhouse and attempted to disappear within, but was recognized and dragged out before the populace by the boyars, who killed the tsar lest he successfully muster an appeal to the crowd.[6] His body was put on display and then cremated, with the ashes allegedly shot from a cannon towards Poland. According to Palitsyn, Dmitry's death was followed by the massacre of his supporters. Palitsyn boasted in his chronicle that "a great amount of heretical blood was spilled on the streets of Moscow."[7]
>His body was put on display and then cremated, with the ashes allegedly shot from a cannon towards Poland.
>the ashes allegedly shot from a cannon towards Poland
Fucking Russians know how to have fun.
Jackson Anderson
>hurr higher number=better tank
William Thompson
Better tank equals better tank. Base T-72 is better than base T-64. Being a clueless retard that you appear to be, what you mean with "T-64" is actually called "T-64A".
Learn the fucking difference between Object 432 and Object 434, you dense fucking retard.
Aaron Cook
Here's a section from a book on the T-64 showing how the Soviets rated different tanks over time. Anyway the T-64BM Bulat is the most aesthetic tank to ever exist so I vote for that.
Juan Scott
No one is talking about the base level tank because no one will see the base tank on the battlefield you retard. You can bet your ass however that if I faced a russian BTG I'd much rather see a T-72 variant peak over a crestline than a 64.
Joshua Nguyen
Poorlak pls.
That only applies to the bullshit model you sent Malaysia.
Your domestic PT-91s never got the upgrades to the gun or gun and turret drives.
Kevin Russell
>T72B3 is kind of equal to t80 U but abit inferior,
Kinda of a dumb statement considering the T-72B3 has substantially better fire control and modern electronics as opposed to a clunky Soviet vacuum-tube based "computer" which can't even be called a fire control system.
Jordan Bailey
Always interesting to see these sorts of things. It seems to me that both sides overestimated the enemy's equipment. Got any more?
Dominic Ortiz
>No one is talking about the base level tank
T-72 is still better than T-64, since the latter reached its limit in the mid 80s and T-72 is still being upgraded to this day. Certain T-64 variants were better than certain T-72 variants, but that is that. T-72 as a whole is an infinitely better tank.
Joseph Russell
>since the latter reached its limit in the mid 80s and T-72 is still being upgraded to this day
The reason the T-72 is still being upgraded is because the factory is located in Russia. If it were the other way around and Ukraine made the T-72, it would be the same situation, but with the tank models substituted.
Dylan Sanders
So why did Ukrainians go with developing T-80 instead of T-64 only introducing marginal upgrades to the latter, genius? Go read a book you fucking clueless idiot. T-72 is being upgraded because it has room for it.
Christopher Rodriguez
I cant say anything about performance, but looks-wise the best variants are the T-64´s/72´s with the Kontakt-1 ERA.
Brandon Price
>So why did Ukrainians go with developing T-80
Because they made the T-80UD in Kharkov, along with the T-64. And it's a more modern tank then either the T-72 or the T-64.
Eli Nelson
My question is which one holds the record for farthest turret toss? I'd imagine it would be the variant with greatest internal ammo storage and possibly the lightest hemispherical turret. Perhaps an early 72? Anyone have the data handy or memorized?
William Lopez
T-64 by far.
Dylan Brown
Think you might be right; lighter tank with more ammo. I thought the 72 carried more at 1st. I don't know that the T-64 has seen that much combat really, if the T-80 retains those characteristics maybe its the true record holder.
Gabriel Collins
>41938192
Literally my second phrase. Learn to read, nigger. Or stop begging for attention.
Brandon Long
Unless someone broke its 2014 record of something like 74+ meters, it's T-64 by far.
>I don't know that the T-64 has seen that much combat really
Where have you been in the last 5 years?
Xavier Walker
Funny how the tanks disappeared from Donetsk front as soon as the first Javelin made it to Ukraine
Luke Taylor
Alright, my new take:
T-90M > T-80BVM = T-72B3 obr.2016 > T-72B2 > T-90A > T-72B3 > T-80U > T-72 obr.1989 > T-72BA > T-80BV > T-72B1 = T-64BV > T-80B > T-72B > T-64B > T-80 > T-64A > T-72A > T-64 > T-72 Ural
>T72B3 > T90A
why?
Mason Sanchez
I remember reading that a T-72AV had broken the record in Syria last year.
Jonathan Price
So which versions are upgraded T72s and which versions are independent ones?
Thomas Lewis
please reformulate.
Joseph Turner
Dilate
Nathan Diaz
T-90 later marks have fantastic protection, but newer models of the T-80 are getting up to par (pic related). T-64 is probably still workable, but there's no getting around the fact that it's an old fucking tank. T-72 recent upgrades keep them competitive, but since the T-90 is functionally just a super T-72, I wouldn't put much stock in what a T-72B3 can accomplish versus a T-90AM.
Of course there's no getting around the glaring design flaw of keeping ammo in the crew compartment without any sort of blowout safety besides the turret itself. I would not discount any of these tanks as being "useless" or "harmless" especially in the role which tanks most often find themselves; shooting at and being shot at by things that aren't tanks.
Cooper Moore
it's a well known fact that slav tech powerlevel is measured by how brutal it looks
Gavin Phillips
bingo