14 Russian sailors killed in research submarine fire
Nuclear-powered sub reported to have been involved in incident during sea-floor survey in the vicinity of the Barents Sea
“This is a great loss for the navy,” Russian president Vladimir Putin said
The RBC news outlet said it was a vessel known by the designation AS-12, which is powered by a nuclear reactor and is designed to carry out special operations at depths where regular submarines cannot operate.
Norwegian officials said they had been in touch with their Russian counterparts but had not been able to establish the type of vessel.
“We have made checks and we are not monitoring too high radiation levels in the area,” Per Strand, a director at the Norwegian Radiation and Nuclear Safety Authority, told Reuters.
He said Russian officials had told his agency that a gas explosion took place on board the submarine. – Reuters
«On 1st July a fire started onboard an underwater research vehicle that was engaged in biometric research activities of the Arctic seabed for the Russian Navy,» a statement from the Russian Armed Forces reads.
«14 submariners died because of intoxication», the Navy says. The statement is referred to by news agency TASS.
The fire was reportedly extinguished by a «self-sacrificing crew.» The submarine is now located in Severomorsk, the headquarter city of the Russian Northern Fleet.
The vessel is operated by the Main Directorate for Deep Sea Research, nicknamed GUGI, a branch directly under General Staff of the Armed Forces. From the Oleniya base, the Directorate operates a fleet of nine nuclear-powered submarines and a few surface vessels that frequently sails out on special missions. Little is known about the nature of those voyages, except reports of significantly increased activity along subsea cables which carry global electronic communication.
Michael Cruz
>by a «self-sacrificing crew
The whole crew are dead men - irradiated Widowmaker 2.0 youtube.com/watch?v=-UZQT-IFpzE Poor bastards. Horrific way to die F
>underwater research vehicle that was engaged in biometric research activities of the Arctic seabed for the Russian Navy >biometric research activities of the Arctic aka looking for oil >«self-sacrificing crew.» aka they all died a horrible death for nothing
Jackson Price
>aka they all died a horrible death for nothing The ship didn't sink and implode and their sacrifices saved the remaining crew. Sounds like they did their job.
Asher Edwards
it does prompt the question: what is the replacement for pic related?
>implying their death was even for something and not just wasted away in a major fuckup and they died independent of the fire being put out You suck up russian propaganda right out of a russian dick?
Charles Foster
>look at all this shit I pulled out of my ass >heh take that putin
Brody Adams
As if Russia hasnt a history of twisting every fuckup into alleged bravery, so no one is allowed to critize the whole thing. Keep on gobbling that dick, faggot.
They died for the arrogance of Russias imperialistic dreams and its incompetence.
Angel James
2 crew were able to recognise the problem and get to respirators. The rest it was too late. Very little time to react for an individual if there is a fire, like those zombie planes where everyone dies due to a depressurization.
Zachary Adams
>Russian deep state false flags their own ship because Trump is improving relations with Russia >I also wouldn't put it past the Iranians cause they're butthurt they didn't get a hot war/WW3 with the Saudis
Knowing the current state of things the Syrian's probably did this by accident somehow
Jonathan Barnes
Kursk? Kursk. Kursk! Kursk... Also go fuck yourself
Hunter James
Fake news. CIA deep fake propaganda
Lucas Thompson
I bet you the Ukrainians did this, better annex the whole country now
Jacob Howard
So not good, but not terrible?
Angel Clark
There was never a fire in the first place. This man is delusional, get him out of here.
Christopher Wright
RIP. Fire inside a sealed container like that is going to be bad. Things will either quickly reach their flashover paoint (and kill everyone) or there won't much flames but a lot of smoke (blinding, hot, suffocating). With nowhere to run but an escape trunk or hope you can surface and evacuate. Good thing some survived and can give their accounts of what happened.
Joseph Kelly
Quick, i need 25 burly naked coalminers and a geigercounter for....some stuff i need to do
Adrian Cruz
I remember firefighting training at Great Mistakes. Fucking sucks on a surface ship where you can, you know, leave if things go wrong.
Jaxson Bennett
How could the Ukrainians be responsible if no such county even exists?
Dominic Moore
>this implodes the vatnik
Cooper Collins
Oh god please no. Even almost 6 million hohols that we already have after 2014 is too much, having to deal with another 30 million of them lazy sly ungrateful cunts will be hell.
>There is no issue with the Kursk, no everything is fine. Your boys are coming home >Well, the truth is their comms have gone down >Don't worry we know where the Kursk is and help is on the way >They are sailing home right now, it's fine >Pfft truth is actually all your boys have died and we need foreign help to retrieve all your lads >And really what happened was the Americans did it
>zombie planes Ya, that has never happened nor could it ever happen like that
Adrian Brooks
In 1991 brochures in a campaign to leave the Soviet Union there was a conparison of raw production values of iron, wheat and stuff like that between Ukraine and Western European countries that were fairly in favour of Soviet Ukraine. Around the same time then president of Ukraine Kravchuk coined an absolutely golden meme catchphrase that went something like "if we stop feeding Soviet Russia now we can become the richest country in Europe, a second France in 10 years!". Of course we all remember what Ukraine has become by the year 2001, and both the brochure and the quote were so meme-worthy that Russians troll Ukrainians about it to this very day.
Carson Brown
Lol
Christopher Long
I also don't understand why second France. Unless Russians seem to think being part of Russia is somehow better than being part of (or like) France?
Jason Mitchell
See above. You're also free to compare the share of Soviet Russia's GDP that Soviet Ukraine had to the share of Russia's GDP that modern Ukraine has. GDP PPP of Soviet Russia in 1990 was something like 1190 billion, of Soviet Ukraine 353 billion. That's ~29%. Nowadays it 4213 billion and 390 billion respectively: ~9%. Soviet Ukraine's economy was almost 1/3rd of the economy of Soviet Russia. Ukrainian economy is less than 1/10th of the economy of Russian Federation. Independence my ass.
Insane corruption and mismanagement will do that to a country.
Levi Evans
Sure, but they keep blaming it on Russians after 1991 instead of taking responsibility in admitting that maybe not every bad thing that happens in Ukraine is the fault of the shady hand of Kremlin. It's their corruption and their mismanagement, yet thy are too infantile as a nation to admit that preferring to resort to 30 years old cliches to avoid taking responsibility in putting their own country to even a resemblance of order. They genuinely believe that a revolution or two and a handful of western subsidies will magically dissolve all the corruption in the country, while in reality they just serve as a tool of power in a fight between several corrupted oligarhs. And don't get me wrong, Russia is corrupted too. But if you ask an ordinary Russian who's at fault of the corruption in his country he will not say "the hand of Kiev" of "United States Department of State", he will say "corrupted officials in our government". And he will be correct.
>this is what qualifies as white in russia at least in the land of the free we have people that jokingly refer the spic hybrids as white. meanwhile vatniks unironically think they're white while looking like goblins.
Lucas Reed
they look like mutts. so much for blonde haired and blue eyed slavs lmao
Christopher Green
>Russians troll Ukrainians about it to this very day. tbf, so would I
Asher Rogers
When the Soviet Union collapsed Ukraine lost a lot of functional industry because most of it was in Russia. It's easier to replace 30% of your industry than it is to replace the 70% now isn't it?
Also the bulk of the Russian industry for the last 30 years have been oil, gas and other raw products any half-functional banana republic can make money from. Ukraine does not have these resources and you're acting like you've achieved something for having them.
Finally, despite that they still have much better access to sanitation, have actually managed to reduce their HIV infection rates, have lower alcoholism rates, lower abortion and so on. Despite having the money oil Russians are still the worst subhuman mongol degenerates of all slavs, and that's saying something.
>they keep blaming it on Russians No they don't. Some people there do. A lot of others don't. Many have mixed views on Russia. Most commonly they blame their own politicians and corruption. And you really can't pretend that Russia didn't have quite a negative impact in Ukraine in recent history.
As evidence for this: Poroshenko lost his last election despite being firmly anti-Russian because he didn't follow his promises and didn't effectively fight corruption as they hoped for.
>if you ask an ordinary Russian who's at fault of the corruption in his country Oh yes and ordinary Russians totally won't blame Americans for keeping them down. They'll only blame their own politicians but don't worry, Putin dindu nuffin' though. Get fucked with this garbage.
Aaron Collins
pretty neat spy sub. wonder what they were up to. i guess it's their equivalent of the jimmy carter.
Did Israel sabotage this sub as some kind of provocation or retaliation?
Aaron Wilson
Eh, the RUN doesn't deserve this. Those poor sods have always been the butt-end of naval history.
Angel Perez
It's totally not like the Russian navy has a track record of getting its sailors killed or anything.
Tyler Rogers
lets's put away thread derailing for a while.
My sources claim that, unlike Jimmy Carter, AS-12 "Losharik" isn't fully autonomous submarine. In fact, she's carried onto the mission by "Orenburg", a repurposed Delta. Only then AS-12 goes into whatever clandestine mission she's assigned to. Most likely the accident happened when boats were still connected. Maybe it was indeed a Stuxnet-like cyber attack, and AS-12 brought up her doom from seabed in data banks. Maybe an demolition charge, one of these non existent bombs supposed to break world wide web exploded prematurely. In that case, if any of 25 officers onboard AS-12 made out live, it's only thanks to the Delta's crew bravery. Yoir thoughts?
Matthew Rogers
Of course you can’t detect any radiation, because it ISNT THERE!
A whole 187€ per year on average. You must be penniless
Sebastian Adams
>slides into a Rus-Uke bants thread
This is the tactic of the vatnik, derail thread into shitposting about Ukraine so people won't talk about the failure that is Russia and whatever incompetence and quality-related accidents happen over there, all the time.
Don't take the bait, just talk about the submarine accident and other failures of Russia. Focus on the thread's subject.
only accidentally happened at anniversary of pope's assassination attempt.
John Ramirez
Was this one of the subs the retired general said were shit?
Isaac Brooks
>research vessel
Bruh, it's a spy vessel meant to tap underwater cables.
Gabriel Richardson
>Most of the dead were allegedly ordnance technicians "sent into the fire in a desperate but unsuccessful effort to defuse or disassemble munitions before they exploded" Christ
Lincoln Allen
>unlike Jimmy Carter, AS-12 "Losharik" isn't fully autonomous submarine >Jimmy Carter >autonomous ???
>USS Jimmy Carter is the third and final Seawolf-class, nuclear-powered, fast-attack submarine in the United States Navy.
It's also the one supposedly spending more time in Russia territorial waters than any of Federation vessels. On the contrary AS-12 is ... was extremely specialized deep sea espionage vehicle. Personally I find the idea of riding AS-12 under the boomer's belly pretty ballsy. Do You also think the hulls were connected at the time of accident and Delta's crew that saved the day?
Zachary Cox
Pretty sure the Carter isnt autonomous
Oliver Bailey
So you're saying it's crewed, thus not autonomous?
Jace Stewart
America does the same shit. Pat Tillman, United 93, ect.
Blake Hernandez
This.
Evan Scott
My bad, English isn't my first language. Should I say "independent" insteadm
Joshua Watson
Autonomous as in capable of getting anywhere around the world under it's own power, unlike the AS-12 which piggybacks on a modified Delta for long range transportation.
Nicholas Young
>Yoir thoughts? You are trying awefully hard to come up with all kind of exuses for a typical russian fuck up that is entire their fault.
There is little need for such efforts now that you can pull the full technical data set from a server. Odd idea, I guess they need to operate like this for range? Though with a reactor that doesn't seem like such an issue, why would they need a mothership?
You get literally seconds of consciousness for hypoxia
Blake Phillips
>Though with a reactor that doesn't seem like such an issue, why would they need a mothership?
Its probably slow as hell.
Christopher Thomas
>why would they need a mothership? Lack of space for supplies for longer voyages, support equipment, and crew to operate said support equipment.
Ayden Wilson
Thanks fren, that's a lot better explanation than mine
What excuses? A fuckup is a fuckup, whether in maintenance or in security.
Nathan Perez
Exuses that it must be caused by someone else. We cant have any thread like this at all without having faggots like you around pretending it must be someone else involved.
Isaac King
what a piece of shit
James Thomas
>You're not allowed to speculate as to how Russia fucked up. T-that would be defending them! That is foundationally retarded. Speculating about how and why it really happened is the entire fun of the thread. There's not really any way for it to not be Russia's fault unless someone literally torpedoed the thing. Your shilling is redundant and irritating
Hudson Flores
>>You're not allowed to speculate as to how Russia fucked up. You are entirely free to do that, the shit starts when you try to drag in other nations on no basis or for no reason at all. Because this is something pretty exlusive for Russia, when any nation fucks up, it is debated how they fucked up, when it is about Russia then there is always someone trying to spin a story that it was initially caused by some other nation or group that has caused it. And that shit is always coming.
America didn't irradiate a large portion of eastern europe then try to lie about it even after everyone figured it out, user. Lying is what the Soviet and Russian governments specialize in. This is not to say slavs are inherently dishonest; simply that the governments of the USSR and Russian Federation survive almost entirely on their ability to lie and not give a single fuck who figures it out.
