Can someone explain to me how different the two are and how they differ from each other in terms of operation and so fourth? Also how do they receive their clients and how is the client requested mission or whatever it is called is passed down over through both sides? Who do they receive their mission/jobs from exactly and who runs the show and what chain of command is there?
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Pmcs are "authorized" by governments and are state actors. Mercs are NSAs. Its semantics.
Mercenaries can be state-sanctioned. There's really no distinction besides the fact that PMC has fewer negative connotations for most people.
>Mercenaries
In todays world we call them pmcs
>semantics
Why the fuck would you comment without reading the entire post.
Okay but how different are they when it comes to clients coming up to them and asking them to protect their drug trade, attack target, protect family's pet grave, kick down and beat up a neet, etc?
Who talks to the client, how is the mission or job after said client gives the money for this to be carried out goes to? How is it sent out? Who is sent out? What goes through within the chain of command if it exists to get the job and how is the pay distributed?
Mercenaries has a strict legal definition in international law and some national legal systems, and (obviously) not all PMCs meet that definition.
You could argue that mercenaries are a subset of PMCs though
Okay but how do they receive their missions from client and who gets sent out on the operation and who sets up and send out the mercs to begin with.
The commander of the merc company?
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The basic gist is that the PMC provides security services, training and logistics, the mercenaries fight wars on your behalf, but the lines have always been blurry. Take Executive Outcomes' example, their first major client was Angola and the actually led Angolan troops into battle against UNITA with much success, but they also did lots of training and logistics administration.
Okay but in both pmc and mercenary company how is the mission/job is giving out to those with guns in hand aka the actual mercs themselves? The commanders in charge?
Mercenaries fight and PMCs accidentally on purpose end up in fights.
Do mercs on both sides receives missions from commanders or do they speak directly from clients?
Well, I can only speak about what I know from reading books about Executive Outcomes during Eeben Barlow's tenure as its CEO. Professionalism and enforcing of discipline come hand in hand since they're not a military outfit, so the discipline and cohesion depend a lot on the professionalism of the people recruited as employees. They are almost entirely hired by governments, and in the occasion when they're hired to do security to private companies themselves, it's usually intermediated by a government.
It depends on the PMC really and how the operate. Individual mercs who aren't affiliated to any company will usually directly deal with their clients, PMCs sometimes will intermediate and relay orders to their people, and sometimes those people will be in the field coordinating directly with the client's military.
Btw, if you're interested in understanding how Executive Outcomes operated back when they provided services to the Angolans, you should contact Jim Hooper on his website and see if he can provide you with a copy of his book Bloodsong about the mercenery company slash proto-PMC. He's a very solicit dude and will be always available to chat on this topic with pretty much anyone who shows interest in it.
So it can either be
>commander of the mercenary private company that is dealing directly with the ckient and is sending the mercs out to do the jobs
Or
>the mercs will directly speak with the client themselves if the client speaks with himself or herself if they wish
Is that how it goes depending on the organization?
Idk about mercenaries in the traditional sense, but PMCs are like any other job really. You have a job description, you sign along a dotted line and any further issues or inquiries go through HR. In terms of clients, its not really different to being a gardener or builder, the client calls the company and they call you and tell you what the job is. The operative part of the name is "contractor." Some outfits sourced guns locally, big companies often have their own armorers. A well known example is Blackwater bought up a shitload of Bushmasters, which were often cut down to carbine length in-house, so many of their guys carried them. Smaller companies with less options would source guns from local dealers, or occasionally from street markets but that was obviously risky especially in 2004-7. You dont have a "commander", you just have a boss or coordinator, who is generally in an office back in the US or UK.
Yes, it really depends on how each company operates. Executive Outcomes for instance had people dealing with the Angolan government and field operatives directly coordinating with the Angolan military.
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Congrats. I'm replying because this thread caused me pain.
Let's say you work at wal mart (impossible to imagine I'm sure).
Your manager gives you two jobs, get rid of the cardboard and do a count of all the toys in the department.
You get $50 in wally dollars gift cards to get it done.
for the count, you want someone reliable who can count but wont complain about the shit job. You post on fiver for someone to count the shit at the store. They drive to the store, do the assignment and you give them $20 for the count, add $5 because they wrote it down as well, but subtract $2 because they slapped some shit on a bike. You later slip them another $5 to act like a confused customer who thinks you're the best while management is around
(That's a pmc)
For the cardboard,you decide to ask some stoners outside to help. Maybe they get crushed by the baler. Maybe they steal the cardboard for a bonfire later. All you know is that when you come by, one guy is left and you give him 6 bucks because the cardboard isn't your problem anymore.
Those are "mercs" (Local Assistance/Support).
Mercenaries and PMCs don't have commanders?
You got it. Nobody is in charge in ANY PMC or LAS. It's simply not allowed. Any group just votes on if they should take a bid or not. It's tough because they all have to get under one tent to vote. Otherwise they stop being PMCs/LASs and become militias!
>Difference between PMC and Mercenary Company
one is "Private Military Company"
the other is "Mercenary Company"
they are basically the same
What happens if one has a "commander" that deals with clients and deals with the payouts and sending out specific mercs based on their roles and skills then what they still mercs/pmc or what?
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It's a euphemism because the US didn't want to say in a press conference that "we sent mercenaries into the Middle East to handle our mess, and our Vice President happens to profit from that." It's just vague enough that it's an umbrella term for plausible deniability for both the people that hire them and the people that need to explain what they were doing in Afghanistan for 3 months last year. "Mercenary" has some negative connotations and we can't have those in the English language. Now stop bumping this dumb thread and go read an article on it.
Did the US ever hire PMC's before the GWOT? Like was there a Blackwater equivalent back in Vietnam?
PMC makes decent ammunition for a competitive price op
So do mercs and pmc see their bosses as "commanders" by name or wut?
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There is no difference, just like there is no difference between lobbying and corruption.
okay now you're just in spoonfeed territory
A contractor wouldn't kill anybody for money that they wouldn't kill for free anyways