The year is 1936 and the French command is anxious about German remilitarisation. They approach (You) to help them design the ultimate infantry and cavalry tanks to ensure final victory in the coming trench war. They have provided you with a template of what they consider to be an acceptable design, but you are allowed to go wild as long as keep at least 2 features from the prototype.
What do you come up with Jow Forums? Can you save the frogs?
The year is 1936 and the French command is anxious about German remilitarisation...
Joshua Powell
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Hudson Miller
>ultra powerful 35mm gun
Wow, look at Mr. Fancypants here with his new 35mm gun. What's wrong with the 37mm Puteaux? You think tank gun technology has progressed since 1918?
Camden Nelson
It was the idea of a junior officer pathologically in love with those newfangled rapid fire guns. You are right general, there's no reason not to use our 37mm stocks, another brilliant cost cutting measure that will surely please parliament while we get more money to pour into that new defence line.
William Smith
Daily reminder that neither the French tanks nor the Maginot line failed, instead it was the French leadership, communications and logistics that were completely overwhelmed by ze Germans.
Xavier Ortiz
>take a small hatch cast hull sherman
>slap heart, trench tail and silly exhaust on it
done
Noah Brooks
I knew I'd seen that duck looking motherfucker somewhere before
Josiah Sanchez
i bet her hair is really soft
Bentley Fisher
Mon Zieu, it's almost perfect, a true baguette warmachine.
However you have gone significantly over budget with the all new hull and turret so some cost cutting measures were imposed by l'assemble. The radio was switched for an elaborate flag system, sure to confuse the enemy. The new gun was judged too costly so we swapped it for an old 75mm mle 1987 as well. Finally we couldn't find a good engine for the price so we just strapped a Hispano aeroplane engine into it. Goes fast but guzzles fuel like Madelon does spunk. This wasn't judged very important as our predictions tell us the next war will be mostly static anyway.
Good job user, you will surely be promoted lieutant-colonel for this.
Robert Howard
Unironically still better than whatever France ended up with in 1940 (not what they planned to roll out though, they had many amazing projects months from completion).
Isaiah Sullivan
didn't the Mle 1887 have a ridiculous amount of penetration with AP shells?
like ~100mm flat unangled at 500m?
Liam Martinez
I feel like I died in one of these things in a past life. I woke up one morning in a single person tent this summer, it was hot as an oven. Felt oddly familiar.
I also have a birthmark across my left arm, which is supposivly how you died in previous lives. I guess I caught a Kraut AT round. I hope my driver made it at least.
>Piere, where ever you are, I hope you are okay
Asher Garcia
yeah but it was also very cumbersome and low velocity. Basically a big slow gun. Did fine in AT roles though (with the right ammunition) until they got spotted and bombed by stukas.
William Bailey
*honhons in your path*
Nolan Nelson
>1936
>Gouvernement socialiste élu après les plus grosses grèves jamais connues dans le pays
>Implying the military had any funding after all those social reforms.
Brayden White
Ah ce n'est pas totalement vrai. En 2936 face au réarmement Allemand, Édouard Daladier commence la nationalisation des industries de guerre. Ces mesures de 1936 ont constitué une des premières mesures importantes du nouveau gouvernement de Front populaire dirigé par Léon Blum (loi du 11 août 1936). Bon après c'était pas très bien foutu et le programme était chroniquement en retard, mais c'était mieux que la période 1929-1935 où les commandes de nouveaux armements étaient presque inexistantes.
Angel Robinson
Wyatt Hill
t. Da Vinci
Colton Barnes
Charles Wood
>absolutely no way to access wheels once built
You may not like but this is what PEAK PERFORMANCE looks like
Oliver Long
Beautiful - cost and manpower efficient and perfectly prepared for yesterday's battlefield. I'll take 2000
t. Gamelin
Samuel Bailey
>They approach (You) to help them design the ultimate infantry and cavalry tanks to ensure final victory in the coming trench war.
>the coming trench war.
Um, guys...
Liam Rogers
Yes what is it de Hauteclocque, spit it out we don't have all day. We have to go inspect the earthworks at Strasbourg after this you know.
Jason Brown
build 2000 PZ 2(f)
arm with 25 mm Hotchkiss AA gun
Regal Ringlets Breh
Isaac Richardson
Dumbass
William Edwards
I throw the design out of the window and direct them to move the funding to B1 Bis production.
Liam Morgan
Hunter Miller
> building Hun designs
*ptooey*
I spot a Dreyfussard
Now these are gentlemen of intellect and wisdom
Ethan Allen
I hope you choked on chlorine gas, stupid hun bastard
Asher Bailey
Well monsieurs, how many of these beauties can I put you down for?
Nolan Torres
the funniest thing is that this thing would probably still do atleast 3 times better than any other retard design the french had back then
Jaxon Ramirez
Promoted to Light Mechanized Division (DLM) commander
Promoted Meister Chief Engineer of the Court
Promoted to Reserve Armour Division (DCR) commander
Promoted to General Inspector of the Army
Promoted to CnC of the French Army
Demoted, counter espionnage investigation pending
Nathan Phillips
The sad thing is that French command circa 1932 would probably orgasm seeing this and order full production asap. Might be a bit wiser in 1936 though.
Jayden Robinson
Bout tree fiddy
Colton Long
We'll be able to deliver at least 10 by 1939.
Brayden Collins
Thomas Gonzalez
Magnificent
Jayden Lopez
>no grills
c'est merde
Alexander Bailey
Who was Pierre user, who were you? I’ll find Pierre for you
Levi Hughes
fixed
Alexander Green
This. I was going to say update your tactics first, then we can talk about design.
Angel Gray
>ywn go on the counter attack in 1939 and crush the Siegfried line with your superior fortifications.
Pourquoi même vivre?
Aaron Rodriguez
On ira pendre notre linge sur la ligne Siegfried with this tank
Ryan Price
>1939
>War were declared
>An earth shaking rumbling is heard
>Entire Maginot Line tears itself out of the ground and slithers across the border like a gigantic fortified snake
>Germany shids pants, sues for peace
>France: Non
John James
Jonathan Ramirez
"Dieu merci, only 10 more days to Berlin, capitaine!"
Jason Sanders
Ryan Hernandez
Beautiful
Jaxson Long
Hearty kek
Angel Howard
We need an open topped design to vent gun smoke more efficiently.
Blake Reed
>when you absolutely, positively must be able to fit a Renault FT turret on each of your tanks
Man imagine if nations still did this, like Russians autistically making sure a T-54 turret can fit on every chassis they produce.
Carter Johnson
just remember the fucking boat with the T-34 turrets
Nathan Wood
They did the same with T55s too
Grayson Bell
They also used most of their useless junkheap heavy tanks made after the excellent IS-2 (which was nothing but an accidental stroke of luck) as fortifications in the east because those god damn parade queen heavy tanks were not good for any other purpose
Alexander Murphy
i blame you two for this
Chase Watson
That's great, when do we start production?
Hunter Morgan
Alexander Evans
Wasn't Charles de Gaulle of all people who wrote a book on maneuver warfare, and while the French didn't read it, the Germans did?
Bentley Sullivan
Liam Bennett
>warranty doesn’t translate into French
Kek
Connor Ross
Wonderful, Mon ami.
As soon as possible, Naturally as the FCM 85t Bis version with the AA gun
James Sanchez
hon hon hon
Jaxson James
Needs sponsons, staggered superfiring turrets, and a big Napoleonic Eagle in gold on each side
>Pour l'empereur!
Tyler Mitchell
>we couldn't find a good engine for the price so we just strapped a Hispano aeroplane engine into it
Just like a lot of tank engines in WW2 user.
Mason Brooks
Oliver Peterson
> The radio was switched for an elaborate flag system
That's bad,but as this design doesn't overwhelm the commander it's still more effective than our current models
>The new gun was judged too costly so we swapped it for an old 75mm mle 1987 as well.
No problem,we can use HEAT.90mm of penetration must be enough for whatever the krauts throw at us.
Camden Brown
how about forming two very large armored divisions to counter attack and incircle the Germans on the third day
Bentley Barnes
Wow user that genuinely looks nice, visually speaking.
Grayson Cox
Fuck off. That will just leave the infantry tankless and unsupported. How can we say we live up to the Egalite in our national motto, if every infantry unit doesn't have an equal amount of tanks?
Angel Rodriguez
That turret makes way too much sense for France. Single man or bust. Cute tonk though
Adrian Reyes
Actually is there any systematic documentation on this? The whole "strap an aircraft engine into a tank" meme happened quite a lot, but it was never the first option. Apart from over heating very easily and being unfamiliar for ground crews, what were the drawbacks?
Ryder Wood
>Yes Pierrre, let's use the old Char B1 hulls for our new main tank
Samuel White
Wyatt Richardson
You mean they invaded via belgium, and cut of the maginot line.
Cameron Bailey
Honestly French tanks were by and large fairly decent, they were used abysmally and lacked radios. You could give France Shermans in 1939 and they'd still have lost.
Ryan Nguyen
Cooling is a big one. Directionality, the Rolls-Royce Meteor had to have its camshaft and related parts modified from the Merlin because for some reason the tank gearbox ran in the opposite direction from a propeller. Needs to run on lower octane gas too. And from a 1936 perspective, most aircraft engines were still radials IIRC, which is just a total bitch for a tank.
Nicholas Collins
> French tanks were by and large fairly decent
No.Just no
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Alexander Ramirez
It really depends. The DCR infantry tanks were nothing to write home about, but the DLM equiped with AMD, AMR and AMC cavalry tanks were a lot more effective. The AMC specially compared very favourably to other late 30s designs.
Jonathan Johnson
Yeah thanks! It's sorta what happens when you spend two hours on MS paint on a Friday evening
Thomas Mitchell
In all fairness, Nicholas isn't a very good yardstick for measuring 1930s tank ergos, since he's extremely tall by early 20th century standards (he's still quite tall by today's standards, which is why he had to bribe his way into the tank force), and he wouldn't have been accepted in the tank force in the first place.
While he managed to "ease" his way into a modern tank unit (back in 2000 when he joined), in the 1930s he would've been thrown out the instant the company commander spotted him towering over the other crewmen. It's impossible to conceal the height difference when you're 6' 5'' and everybody else is a 5' 8'' manlet, no matter how much you slouched.
Isaac Ross
This thread was hilarious. Can we do british interwar designs next, please?
Logan Harris
This. He's about the same height as de Gaulle and you can clearly see him towering over the French tankmen manlets of the time (here next to Leclerc who was about average height for a tanker).
Chase Ward
Generally oversized as radials are orientated very tall, the crankshaft is up high instead of low down, the torque curve is all wrong so requires extra engineering for the gearbox and constant sparkplug fouling because the engines were designed for constant running and not a start-stop regime. Well, at least it's better than strapping 5 car engines together.
Jacob Jones
To be fair, those tracks are better then what some modern vehicles use, like the Bradley.
Chase Rivera
Howdy, your rootin’ tootin’ frenchies! Your work has greatly interested our country, and it has been deemed necessary for an upgrade to our M3 Lee tanks! Show us what you can do, and maybe we’ll liberate your country!
Ryder Sanchez
>muh socialist boogeyman
The army was getting a massive amount of funding, it was also led by morons who would have joined the axis in a heartbeat if the germans hadn't invaded
Kevin Cruz
>The army was getting a massive amount of funding
There's nothing a "massive" amount of funding can do to reverse a decade headstart in development.
> it was also led by morons who would have joined the axis in a heartbeat if the germans hadn't invaded
>muh right-wing conspiracy theory
Absolutely bunk.
Reminder that the majority of the Vichy government was made up of pre-war leftists who advocated for peace at ANY cost. And it's an Israeli jew that said it. gatestoneinstitute.org
Nathaniel Phillips
What about mounting the radial flat?
Oliver Ward
L14 (Louie the 14th) Medium Tank
Joshua Fisher
something along the lines of the Leopard 2 RI INDONESIA.
probably the best tank in the region
Isaiah Lewis
>powered by an indochinese man running in a wheel
Kek
Josiah Bailey
I'm confused by the red and blue on the flag.
Brandon Lewis
>guzzles fuel like Madelon does spunk
Zis makes my baguette ze pain de campagne.
Henry Robinson
Any other posters with different nationality soldiers making a similar pose? I wanna make a line up
Hunter Hill
If the French had radio comms instead of literally bicycle messengers to HQ things would have been better for them. Also give them meth like the Germans had.
Cameron Hughes
>1936
>M3 Medium
Lt. Colonel, is there some newfangled tank being developed? All we have are these M2A2's.
Christopher Thompson
lel
Gabriel King
lol
Charles Moore
more anime french tanks?
Ryder Ramirez
Now just put the engine in backwards so it can retreat at full speed