Trying to get a shotgun in the UK

How hard is it?

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I've heard that it's pretty easy to get in Schotland, but I don't know the details.

OI MATE, BIN THAT SHOTTY

Easy as piss

As long as you live in permanent residence (and actually live on the property), all you really need to do is go to the doctors, pay £50 to get your mental health checked, fill in forms, they'll come and interview you, and you're good to go.

(They will ask purpose - saying sport of clay shooting is sufficient)

Also note you'll need a safe that's bolted to the wall at least 2 rooms away from the front door.

As long as you don't have a dodgy living situation, and are mentally sound, a section 2 is relatively easier to acquire. It's the section 1 that's a bitch.

just ask one of those pakis, I'm sure you can get even semi AKs from them

What I was thinking.
How long ago was it that the ship from Turkey was caught dropping off 40 foot containers of Turkish weapons at a few different ports around Europe.
Think it was the Swedes that caught them.

Just go look under the schematics for the Tempest, they are all hidden there

>pay £50 to get your mental health checked

BuT i ThOuGhT sOcIaLiSeD mEdICiNe wAs FrEe.

it varies from doctor to doctor. Mine was free as I know my doctor well, however some don't even want to do the checks, as if you go and commit a crime, the doctor will get a bollocking. The standard seems to be £50. (It is paid for as it goes straight into their pocket and isn't a service funded by the NHS)

What is the section 1 and how is it a bitch?

Getting your doctor to sign you off for a SGC is not ‘medicine’

It’s the Firearms Certificate

>all rifles
>shotguns with more than 2+1 capacity
>semi-auto shotguns
>slug firing shotguns

SGC is largely shall issue unless you’re clearly a scumbag. FAC you need to demonstrate that you hunt, pest-control or target shoot regularly.

Not the other user but that's almost as much bullshit as saying accessories aren't covered by the second amendment.

If you're paying into a socialized healthcare system why should the system double-dip by charging you?

Why should taxpayers cover the cost of non-essential elective shit?

Why should taxpayers cover anything at all, then?
Or alternatively, apart from time what exactly are you costing the country by showing up and talking to a doctor? He's being paid to be there whether you make the appointment or not, and if you were taking valuable time from someone else who needs it the system would (hopefully) bump you to a later date when the doctor is actually free to see you.

Thanks, how would you be able to demonstrate that you do any of those things (hunting, pest control or target shooting) without a firearm of your own? Pest control seems a no-brainer as it would require you working at a pre-existing pest control company, but the other two seem a bit hard to do without a gun of your own.

Rifle clubs are really the only way to shoot recreationally here, so normally you shoot for a year or so using club guns before getting your own and oke of your fellow shooters acts as a referee. Alternaively if you’ve had an SGC for a year or so and not killed anyone you can generally get an FAC.

Socialised healthcare results in a lower per patient cost and is a general societal benefit. It’s like schoolong, having a population educated to a basic standard benefits everyone. Having a basic level of health benefits everyone. Even old school classical liberals like Gladstone recognised the benefits of universal healthcare.

user, the US spend more public money on medicine than most EU countries, on top of private expenditure

>Socialised healthcare results in a lower per patient cost and is a general societal benefit.

That's just utilitarianism, which isn't a valid response in this context. But I'm not here to discuss that, my point is that you're already paying for the doctor and you're being double-dipped by a process that was required by the government. If the government required it then the government should mandate it to be performed for free.

If anything, your reply only reinforces my point. You get a lower per patient cost precisely because the system - as long as it can collect enough taxes - will never become "unprofitable". This means that it doesn't fucking matter if a doctor is working with a patient or not, his presence is always being paid for. So if the system is working correctly and you're not getting ahead of someone who actually needs to see a doctor for health reasons, you're consuming absolutely ZERO resources from the healthcare system.

So if you're already paying for the system, and the system will only put you in front of a doctor in a vacated timeslot, why should you be charged even though it cost NOTHING to see you?

Based, fuck trannies.

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Holy shit I almost feel bad for bongs

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you can make one with hand tools, and I dont mean a bullshit pipe and nail one.

You’re creating a strawman. We pay National Insurance to cover the cost of social care; healthcare, pensions, elderly care, disability care. If you ask an NHS employee for something that isn’t explicitly healthcare they may and can charge you. Same goes for health certs if you’re entering a marathon. You’re not being charged twice by having to pay for non-essential services because you were never charged for it in the first place.

You guys can't even have a strung bow in your house AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

To add to this, if you make a doctors’ appointment in my area and then don’t show up they’ll charge you for it. The service is oversubscribed and they don’t want timewasters.

It's not a strawman. You are paying for the service through taxes. You should not be charged twice.
>If you ask an NHS employee for something that isn’t explicitly healthcare they may and can charge you
They're on the clock and what you're asking for in this case does not consume resources except time. Also, the thing you're asking for was mandated by the government. Why should the government force you to incur the costs of something they mandated?
>Same goes for health certs if you’re entering a marathon
Shit, does the government mandate those or the private organizer of the marathon?
>You’re not being charged twice by having to pay for non-essential services
It doesn't fucking matter if they're essential or non-essential. How do you even define essential? I'd think something mandated by the government is under the umbrella of "essential".
That was what I was getting at earlier. If we're going to draw a line that line can be moved either way. If the state gets into financial trouble would they be able to scoot the line a little and start claiming that certain kinds of care are not essential?

>The service is oversubscribed

Seems like they should just increase taxes and hire more people.