Unarmed Combat Thread, Fists are Weapons Too

Imagine this,

> be you, in normal street clothes
> concealed carry is somehow missing
> you happen to be late for marriage/funeral
> late enough to risk taking a dangerous shortcut through a pitch-black alley in the middle of the night
> you're almost halfway through the alley when Eric Scott Esch, AKA Butterbean, the boxer with a 77/10/4 fight ratio emerges from behind a dumpster with murder in his eyes
> he's coming at you like a storm
> you have mere moments to prepare

How do you handle fighting someone with such a tremendous weight advantage? If he lands one blow, bones are going to break, and he's fat enough that any damage you could hope to do is cushioned to the extent the impact is trivial.

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i wrestle
cuz i wrestled

Pocket sand

What's better for someone who's never done martial arts before, both for fitness and as an actual skill?

>boxing
>judo
>muay thai/some kind of kickboxing
>bjj

Boxing is a smooth-brain sport, don't bother. You want Krav Maga.

I started Kyokushin classes a few weeks ago after doing some research. I want to take a Judo class once a week or so to supplement for lack of grappling in Kyokushin. I'm just going full on fucking weeb with it.

Run away, better to live a coward than to die for nothing OP

does carrying pepperspray make a man look like a pussy?

>boxing is a smooth brain sport, here, do this useless art instead

No, based on his list I think he wants a martial art where you actually train.

Go for the balls.

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Ask him for a coupon at his restaurant

I shoot him with my open carry.

I use to make fun of fat guys till I seen a bunch of them fight. The extra weight is a huge advantage. I always get into fights with bigger people, mostly cause I tend to dislike most bullies- and if I'm going to pick a fight with
someone obviously I'm going to try it on someone bigger than me.
Someone like butter beans size, I'd pull a 180 and run. If he can keep up, I'd try to get objects between us and run circles around those to try and tire him out then make a dash for it. I've probably done that already quite a few times when I was a kid to avoid older guys that could kick the shit out of me with little effort. If they can keep up for a couple blocks I try to lure them to a rock bed or something and pelt them when they get too close. Usually there is enough time to get off 2 or 3 throws if you already have them in hand and there is enough time to try and book it again if it doesn't work. I've never seen it not work though.

Seems functional, but how would you get there? The man is built beneath that fat, and if you fucked up even slightly, you'd have broken bones or a shattered eye socket to contend with.

>enlightened.jpg

>smartass/10

Seems reasonable, do you have any fight stories you could share?

A skilled krav maga practitioner would have either of you on your asses in seconds.

Run, any other answer is stupid.
But who goes to a funeral/wedding at night? Are we in greenland/alaska/canada?

Tae Bo.

Don’t be a coward, what if someone saw you?

I DON'T KNOW YOU!

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>Seems reasonable, do you have any fight stories you could share?
Maybe. I'm pretty sure the statue of limitations is probably over for those sorts of things or I already did the time for it. I think situation awareness and avoiding the fight is typically the better solution instead of trying to win it. Most people I've been in fights with were older so they were bigger, stronger, faster, and smarter than me. It was pretty rare when I wasn't outnumbered also. I'm a big proponent of fighting as dirty as you can possibly get away with. I'm not fighting to be a badass, I just want to survive. This one time a guy started a fight with me so I launched a straight forward kick to his belt line. I like doing that because if it misses you nail them in the junk, if it doesn't miss what happen was it doubles people over and pushes the air out of their diaphragm. It's sort of an involuntary action sort of like the Heimlich. I was going to try to grab his hair and launch into a flying knee at his nose since he was doubled half way over face down. He got his hand up and begged me to stop. I think it's a good idea to spar and stuff, if I hadn't started training to spar I use to think people were playing possum when they did stuff like that. Then I'd end up hurting them worse than necessary, getting in more trouble, and being way more reviled than I already was.
So sometimes it's good to learn restraint and I think that's a good thing about dojos and organized martial arts kind of stuff.
The point is sometimes you don't want to take things to the logical extreme and know when to call it quits. No matter how badly someone loses a fight, they'll try to fight you again later. So it's usually not a good idea to take things too far and just know when to call it quits.
I've had the snot beat out of me quite a lot of times, you think I'm afraid of them or just waiting for the next round? If you can avoid a fight you typically probably should.

Fight dirty. You can still get charged with assault if you lose. No point in taking a charge AND an ass whoopin. Just get to where you can make a clean exit then fucking run for it. You never know who else is going to help the other guy, and you can bet no one's going to help you. In short though, avoiding a fight entirely is for the best.

Yup, a lot of people seem to forget you're going to get charged with something. If you get your ass beat and aint walking out of there, guess who they have to conveniently have in custody to give charges to.
I know most people say to not fight dirty, as a general rule I don't just so it's less expected when I actually do it. I try to avoid fighting as much as possible now even though it's pretty humiliating and demeaning, so typically I don't fight dirty.

Kick the side of the knee, you can drop anyone, especially fatties with that

run because he is fat and I am thin

Literally anyone who trains anything is going to win over someone who trains nothing.
Krav Maga is a fuckin meme bud

Long-nosed salesman pls go

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If you can box or wrestle you can beat up 98% of anyone you'll ever come into contact with. If you can box AND wrestle you can beat up 99% of them.

It doesn’t help that their punches are stronger, they have wider hips which give more power to their punches if their using them

why am I fighting that guy? fuck that, I'm not a fucking palestinian.
even if you're untrained, you can usually win if you fight like a mean, evil sumbitch. most people expect a relatively "fair" fight, and violence of action throws that shit way out of whack.

As a general rule of thumb I tend to go by I picked up from experience; every guy has a mean right hook (unless they're a lefty, then it's a mean left) and can hit much harder than it looks like they can. Doesn't matter if they're a bean pole or a sumo wrestler looking type.
I personally very rarely if ever hit as hard as possible unless there are certain conditions. Since I want them to open up their guard or throw them off balance instead of getting too defensive.
The problem with heavier weight guys is they're usually much quicker than they look and tend to have an advantage at taking others down or avoiding it happening to them in an outright struggle or clinch.
Typically I don't want to get caught in a wrestling match tied up in a struggle or on the ground since the guys I ended up fighting would have friends around and are fine with throwing a boot or something if the opportunity presents itself at your back. They probably won't do it but generally you don't want to give them the chance to do it since they might if an extra one jumps in then all the rest are going to think they should too.

I do not trust you, merchant.

I bite, kick, and generally try to use the environment around me in any way I can

Yes. Real men carry oven cleaner.

Kike rat

Well i'd be in dress clothes so i'd just put my right leg back. Fly into him and start biting at his face and stricking at the chin, nose and eyes with palmed punches.

I'm not saying you shouldn't try to hit people as hard as you can if you don't know what you're doing, I generally can get away with that because I'm crafty at dodging and know where to usually take a hit if I don't think I can dodge it.

>How do you handle fighting someone with such a tremendous weight advantage?
Be better at some other aspect of fighting.

Well rounded-ness > specialists

Webm very related

You can jump into any martial art without having done it before. Pretty much every school will have a free trial. See what's in your area, take the trial, and take what you like best.

For practical self defense, I would recommend taking at least 2 arts: one striking art and one grappling art. People are going to try to hit you and people are going to try to wrestle you, so it's good to know how to deal with both.

Everything you named is good and vetted, so as long as you're at a good gym, you should be fine.

Solid combo.

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