I got a new job, and they're very serious about security, apparently they do search cars randomly or if something goes missing theyll search cars going out the gate. At my last job I just would stuff my carry gun inside a backpack and leave it on the passenger seat in my car. But at this job I need to be able to defeat a search. I'm assuming this isnt gonna be like a proper search where they're pulling up carpet and shit, but I do beleive they will open every obvious compartment and feel under all the seats, open the trunk etc etc etc.
TL;DR how do I hide a gun in a car (2012 civic 4 door if that matters) where a reasonable security guard search wouldnt find it?
Get a gun safe meant for vehicles and if they force you to open it sue them out the ass in court.
Dylan Peterson
>tearing carpet up That would get you shot in my book, what kind of fucking place do you work at user? Also, if youre already going to bitch up and submit to all these other nonsence rules then having your fun with you if there is a rule against it they will probobly try to fuck you legaly.
Jackson Miller
If they stop you and try to search the vehicle just pull out the gun and say "Motherfucker if I wanted to steal something you couldn't stop me."
If they attempt to press their case, just prove that they couldn't have stopped you anyway.
Sebastian Hill
I'm willing to lose my job to have my gun with me, but obviously if I can keep my job and have my gun that would be the best of both worlds.
Caleb Russell
Don't work for corporate fascists.
Angel Jones
If it is company policy then you either risk getting fired for violating it, or you decide to not risk it and comply. You should be free to defend yourself, but your employer is also free to set their own policy.
Tyler Green
>At my last job I just would stuff my carry gun inside a backpack and leave it on the passenger seat in my car. You're a fucking idiot, and no advice will help you if you think leaving your firearm unattended, in a backpack inside a vehicle where any nigger can bust through your window and snatch the pack for whatever is in it, was in any way "secure".
Carry it on you or leave it at home if you can't be trusted to keep it on you. You fucking moron.
Andrew Walker
Ok boomer. Go back to sleep now. Last job my car was literally 10 feet away and I was on a fucking farm lol.
Jack Campbell
>You should be free to defend yourself, but your employer is also free to set their own policy. Translates as: >You have individual rights, but faceless corporations can decide to revoke whenever they want. Hey buddy, at least its not the government.
You faggots are just as bad as communists.
Nolan Bailey
Just don't. Always carry it on your person.
Logan Lopez
This
Mason Hernandez
You have the freedom to not work for them. Their rights are just as valid as yours. You queer.
Camden Cook
That's not really an option, it's a super hot and dangerous, highly controlled industrial environment. Even an extremely small gun would be an issue on body carry. And I'm not worried about needing it at work, I'm worried about the trip to and from.
Caleb Peterson
Got any experience with automotive gun safes? I could use one. Leaving my gun at home now and don't want it in a trunk for 5 days at a time.
Jose Scott
How many layers of neoliberalism are you on my dude?
I take back what I said. You're worse than communists.
Bentley Cruz
According to my knowledge of firearms having a gun in your car is a right and you can't be stopped from that. I'd ask the company but just keep it in the glovebox and use them.
Noah Hughes
look into the laws in your state lot of security guys believe they can do all kinds of things but they actually illegal
Ian Barnes
what kind of fucking company searches your car randomly? Check your state laws, some have statutes restricting companies from restricting firearms in your vehicle
Zachary Thomas
Company policy. You'll be fired on the spot.
Lincoln Evans
Its private property. How difficult to understand is that? As an employee you are welcomed onto the employer's PRIVATE PROPERTY, to perform a service for them under conditions they set. It is a condition of employment that the people they choose to employ have to abide by or risk having that employment rescinded. Freedom is a two-way street, bud.
Christian James
>Coca-Cola, Walmart, Starbucks, General Foods, and Halliburton have rights too you know. Now turn in your guns, watch your speech and let us search your car. >It's not like we're the state so your rights aren't being violated.
Jordan Howard
Based and chadpilled
Dominic Carter
What about user's car? Isn't that his private property? What happened to his freedom?
Landon Sanders
was this specific article of policy something that was presented to you, after which you SIGNED? Or did you sign your contract/nondisclosures, and then they said "Oh BTW here's the company policy"
Jeremiah Taylor
How? In some states, unless it’s on federal property, even though your car is in their parking lot the interior of it is still your property. So, I would start checking your local laws to see if that shits legal to start off with then work from there.
Jayden Jackson
Do you bring food in a lunch box or any shit like that? Maybe you could get one with a false bottom and an extremely thin pocket semi auto and just hide it in there. If you can manage to carry a wallet or a phone (which it sounds like you may not be able to here) you can carry a gun.
Jacob Sullivan
Yes. Guys I'm not asking about the legality or morality here, I'm asking for ideas about hiding a gun in a Honda civic. Save your pseudo lawyer jabbering for arfcom.
Nicholas Cox
Just put it in your glovebox under a pile of dirty dildos and crusty cum tissues.
James Sanchez
I absolutely advocate for carrying all the time. But if his company disagrees, he either complies, leaves, or just chances it. Its up to him as long as he understands the implications of his choice.
If people really think a private entity having their own rights is tyrannical, then they are welcome to protest by not working for them. Or they could throw tantrums and call them communists.
Blake Diaz
Yeah but I don't know if they can violate your rights like that, I'm phone posting I meant to say keep it in a glovebox and if they try action against you lawyer up.
Nathan Wright
if they legal can't search your car then you don't have to hide it
Tyler Perry
Check your state laws for legality. Violating company policy just means you could be let go from your job, not imprisoned.
Dylan Lee
>boomer I'm 30 in a month, shitheel, and I don't give a shit where you were working. If you don't care enough to make absolutely goddamn sure that your weapon is not going to disappear when you take your eyes off it, don't you dare to act shocked when it eventually does. Don't try and deflect onto me because you're an irresponsible fucking idiot.
Ryder Mitchell
Way to dodge the question. Is user's car his private property or not?
Dylan Phillips
I would just put it in a lock box under a seat
Christian Young
answer the question fuckhead
did you tacitly AGREE and sign a document that states that you can't have weapons on property. answer this and then I'll help you hide your weapon in your shitty fag mobile
Charles Gomez
If they signed on to the company and agreed to abide by comoany policy(which often gives security the option of checking bags/vehicles) then they have the right to, because you agreed to it. You have the right to refuse, but they also have the right to fire you for refusing.
Carson Evans
>private entity having their own rights is tyrannical The "right" to invade another's privacy and search their car for no reason is tyrannical you cuck
Robert Roberts
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John Bailey
Not if you signed an agreement as a condition of employment. Thats a lawful contract, and by violating it they can end the agreement to employ you.
Austin James
>You signed this paper so now you don't have any rights to your personal property
Lincoln Reed
exactly. but user has to make a choice:
Will you be a faggot for breaking your agreement? Or will you be a faggot for not carrying your gun anyway?
Eli Lopez
Get a discrete gun safe
Blake Walker
provided the contract does not violate the law
Carter Ramirez
You dont the right to force an employer to retain you if you violate a lawful contract you signed as a condition of employment. Theyre not violating your roghts because you are voluntarily choosing to agree to their policies. Theyre not telling you you cant own a gun. Theyre telling you they dont want it on their own property. Cry some more.
Seriously lolbert corporate bootlickers are just as damaging if not worse to 2A rights as leftists
Hunter Williams
True. Personally i like the safe suggestion. Then get a lawyer involved if they try to force him to open it. I worked for a place that told us we couldn't have our guns in our cars, but would let us come in and carry around our work guns. Fucking imagine that.
Ian Perez
yeah so either get a safe and tell them to fuck off, or hide it in your door panel or something. just remember that security officers are getting paid fuck all and don't really care what you do as long as you don't interrupt their movie time
Kayden Thomas
Maybe leave your gun at home?
Alexander Price
Libertarians are unironically for open boarders.
Noah Sullivan
I'd argue that they are worse. At least leftists do recognize the importance of the right to bear arms. Lolberts only recognize that right as far their doorsteps.
Blake Phillips
Hey buddy, Guatemalans have a right to vote for politicians who want to tax you to death and repeal the 2A.
Hudson Rivera
Reminder that it is tacit governmental approval that allows them to do this. >at least it'z not duh goberment Yeah, it actually still is. Eat shit, closet grabbers. You can hang from the same lamppost as the Clintons.
Logan Anderson
interesting how the guy suggesting it is ok for a company to infringe on your rights to self defense is the one calling people grabbers
Jack Reed
OP, first of all, you're vehicle is considered private property. But if you signed agreements their property you're fucked.
Unironically, if its just low level security searches (being just in your car itself such as front seats, back seats, the rugs, and trunk) they won't search your engine block, you're not at a border crossing. Stick you're gun somewhere in your engine or underneath your car
Caleb Young
How do you handle such cognitive dissonance?
Liam Powell
You don't know the meaning of the term. My thoughts and beliefs are in complete accord, and your projection onto me will never change that.
Noah Hall
hey guys new question i signed a paper at work saying i won't keep guns in my ass do i have to let them perform a cavity search on me everyday?
Anthony Ortiz
Libertarian ideals highlight conservative contradictions and force them to reconcile with the fact that they only like the rules when the target oppression is on someone else. As soon as that line is crossed, it's all NIGGERS JEWS FUCK EM ALL REEEEEEEE
Easton Smith
Put a magnet on a box to store the pistol and slap it under your fender when you get to work.
Cooper Howard
>gun in car bad keeping a gun in the car is easy, it's unlikely to get stolen, and if it does i'll report the gun stolen and get a new one with insurance money
If your car is an economy model, there are a zillion plastic interior trim panels you could cram at least a pocket 9mm pistol behind (c-pillars, underneath the glove box, under the steering wheel, somewhere behind the dashboard). Not exactly the best for quick access if you need it though. For that, you might want to look into making a holster out of the passenger seat itself. Cut a slit in the fabric at a seam, dig out some of the foam, line the pocket with more fabric, take that fabric pocket out and attach it to the original cover, then stitch it all up clean enough for it to not be noticeable. You could use a zipper, or velcro or magnets on the inside of the pocket, to hold it shut.
Aaron Baker
>You have inalienable individual rights, but non-governmental entities are free to violate them Yeah no dissonance there
Jordan Bailey
Where do you work, and how is the health plan?
Zachary Sanders
>beliefs are in complete accord government grabbing = bad company grabbing = good thanks faggot
Evan Perry
Except your employer isnt telling you you cant own a gun. Just that you cant bring it on their property if if they dont want it to be. Its no different than any individual telling you not to vape on their stoop.
You have the right... to go somewhere else and smoke cock flavored water.
Wyatt Lee
Like said >Freedom is a two-way street, bud.
So bend over user. Your employer has a right to your boihole.
Jace Mitchell
OP's employer doesn't own OP's car. OP's car is OP's private property. You're suggesting that OP's employer now has a right to enter OP's property and presumably seize his gun. That's nothing like a no smoking/vaping policy you retarded lolbert.
William Ramirez
I don’t see how they can legally search your personal property. I guess when you sign the contract you consent to that, but only an idiot would sign documents without reading them. No insult intended. Regardless, I still don’t see how company policy can dictate what happens outside of the building. Strip search me when I go into it if need be, but what I keep in my car is my business. Last I checked rights outweigh policy
Isaiah Hill
Just because you are parked on their property doesn’t mean they get access to your property. That’s not how that works dude.
Aiden White
Libertarians would slowly die of disease in their privately owned ghettos while CEOs laugh spitting on thier corpse
Easton Hill
Your car is no different than your backpack, if you bring it onto someone else's property. They dont have to let you bring it in.
Another solution. OP needs to park on the street and walk his ass in so he can leave the gun in the car.
Ryder Kelly
>You have the right... to go somewhere else and smoke cock flavored water. >huffing shit >is somehow the same as carrying a gun
drug mule for the cia health plan is great dental vision the whole deal all covered not like anyone has oversight of how we spend money any way
Chase Hughes
Not sure about 2012 but I have a 2017. Look up how to access the cabin air filter on your car. For mine you open the glovebox, squeeze the sides towards each other and pull the glovebox out. There is a compartment that you may be able to hide a gun
Cameron Brown
So, you have the right to park your car in my driveway fully loaded with all your queer tranny porn and sex dolls?
Because property rights are property rights, regardless of who owns the property. I dont have to allow you to do anything on, or to, my property without my say. That right applies to everyone, not just the dickhead trying to park his tranny pron laden spank-wagon in your driveqway.
Benjamin Cook
>engine block why wouldn’t you just hide it in your door, dashboard, center console, etc. how the fuck is it even worth carrying if you have to get out of your car, pop the hood, and then grab it out of wherever the fuck you hid it
Blake Morris
libertarians hate guns and throw them in the trash
Guess hiding a gun in the prison pocket is par for the course then
Dylan Wright
What about OP's butthole? Can they search that since he brought it onto someone's property?
Austin Watson
"This guy doesnt agree with my brand of tyranny, he must hate freedom"
Lucas Peterson
What state user becuase some states such as PA, we can keep guns in car on company property. Also no security guard is going to tear your shit up and or damage any personal property. It will most likely be a quick inspection, nothing too intense. T. Security officer.
Jacob Martinez
What your talking about is trespassing and no you can't search their car looking for porn you fucking weirdo.
Andrew Brown
what if it swallowed it? can they cut him open and search?
Christian Jones
great point guess i will vote with the kid fuckers next time
Colton Robinson
Shit guys maybe the trade unionists are on to something. Being a wagecuck who has to sign away rights in order to put food on the table sucks.
Anyway OP yank the driver's side door speaker and you should be able to mount a subcompact holster behind the grill and figure out a way to make it easy to pry out.
Elijah Martinez
They can ask and fire him if he refuses
Caleb Gutierrez
maxpedition.com/ They have bags of various types with hidden pockets for CCW. Most likely would not be found in a search. Park off property and walk if you are really concerned.
David Morales
My state passed a law a few yeas ago specifically saying that employers can't prohibit you from having a gun in your vehicle.
Sebastian Hall
Property rights are property rights all the same.
Dylan Scott
ITT >Well you see I have a right to fuck your wife since you labor within my private fiefdom. >Fuedal lords have rights, same you buddy. >That's what freedom is all about. How does anyone take lolberts seriously?
Yeah and you don't own user's car. That's his property.
Luke Brown
it is alright guys the boot is made by walmart
Dominic Sanders
>Give me your butthole or you're fired. Didn't some Hollywood producers get in trouble for that?
Jordan Hall
The vehicle inspection isnt the only chance to get caught. Imagine the guy goes full sheepdog and saves the office secretary when her ex shows up to murder her and her coworkers and OP ventilates him. Guy could be a hero and the company would fire him for bringing it in the first place. Like all those shop clerks that stop robberies.
Bentley Jenkins
Boom solved. Super fucking clutch user thanks. Enough room to hide 3 or 4 guns.
Jose Bennett
Primae Noctis, and the idea that feudal lords could even rightfully just fuck your wife was literally made up bullshit.
Arguably a medieval peasant under a feudal system had more recourse against their lord than an employee or average person does against a large corporation.
Parker Hill
So i suppose you think that gay pride parades where fags march around public in thongs are totally acceptable, since its their right, and their rights apply everywhere indiscriminately?