How effectively could regular passenger planes be "weaponized" and turned into war jets? Let's say you had a fleet of 100 passenger jet airliners of various common models. You could militarize them however you wanted. What kind of fleet could you build?
How effectively could regular passenger planes be "weaponized" and turned into war jets...
Wyatt Gonzalez
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Carson Perry
9/11 should i say more ?
Nicholas Rivera
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James Morris
fpbp its the only good option really maybe making them into drones first and filling them with explosives might be a good idea though
Luis Anderson
3 managed to land some hits, in the US, several years ago. So I'd say they're very effective.
Christian Brooks
Passenger jets are big and slow and would be easily killed by real fighter jets in any sort of in-horizon encounter. Your best hope is to turn some of them into powerful AWACs suites packed full of long-range detection systems, and use those to coordinate missile launches from your other planes from as far away as possible, using the heavy lift capability of the planes to carry bigger and heavier missiles than a fighter jet could carry.
Easton Rivera
>How effectively could regular passenger planes be "weaponized" and turned into war jets?
The B-52 is basically an airliner
Liam Ramirez
This is a terrible idea because then every civilian craft would have to be considered a potential threat forever. Same reason armys don't cheat and just paint every vehicle as a medic unit.
Gabriel Cooper
9/11 but Mecca
Liam Robinson
Adam Bennett
You could always either disable the transponder or install a military transponder, and paint them in proper national colors.
The most effective way to use passenger jets in a military context is for logistics. Throw the seats out, use them as cargo planes. That's probably not what you want to hear, so let me suggest strapping giant lasers to them.
Camden Thomas
Isaac Adams
Very good ;)
Ayden Perez
Not easily enough to ever be worth it. Back in the prop days, there were cargo plane conversions of a few airliners (DC-3/4/6, Lockheed Constellation, Convair 340) in service with the military, and Cold War-era Soviet airliners had seats that folded forward until they were flat so they could pile cargo on them if necessary, but other than that, it's just impractical.
Tyler Green
The closest you'll get is either something like this A330 tanker...
Dominic Evans
Or something like this ERJ-145 kitted out as a mini AWACS
Nicholas Fisher
Use it to transport troops. That's the role it's probably best for.
Brody Gutierrez
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Is possible
Tyler White
All these are good examples of what OP should want, but I'm pretty sure OP is a retard who wants to use them as fighters. Hell, it wouldn't even be stupid to use a narrowbody jetliner as level bomber, provided you could suppress air defense. But a fighter is retarded, it's like asking how to use the B-52 as a fighter.
David Ortiz
he's just thinking about the wrong era.
The Dash8 q400 has around the same power/weight as a p51
Julian Ross
that's what the madlad stole in Seattle last year
Christian Perry
Seems to me that flying one full of fuel into your opponent's defense headquarters is pretty damned weaponized.
Owen Parker
Would scuba gear be sufficient for an unpressurized cabin? also would small arms fire have any lethality from 30k feet?
Justin Davis
The -400s are fucking cray cray. You can exceed Vmo on one engine.
Aaron Smith
>Would scuba gear be sufficient for an unpressurized cabin?
No, it won't seal right.
>also would small arms fire have any lethality from 30k feet?
Do you really think you can hit what you're shooting at with an AR from five and a half miles away?
The closest thing to an airliner-to-combat-aircraft conversion you'll find out there were the old AC-47 gunships from the Vietnam era. The first few were just C-47s (which are just the cargo version of the 1930s DC-3 airliner) jury rigged with a bunch of M1919s sticking out the side (later versions were upgraded with M134s). The idea worked so well that they ended up doing the same with C-119s, and eventually C-130s. In a pinch I suppose you could do something similar with a high-winged turboprop like an ATR or even (yes, ) a Dash 8. I mean, it's not far off of the firefighter conversions they've already done with them: youtube.com
But that's pretty much all the combat capability you could really ever get out of an airliner.
Jason Rodriguez
The one exception is that anything with a payload can be a big dumb bomb / missile truck for a much more advanced buddy aircraft.
Chase Kelly
>The B-52 is basically an airliner
Biggest problem is airliners have a lot of structure at the bottom of the aircraft, you can't cut holes in it to drop bombs. Bombers are the opposite structural components are at the top with bomb racks hanging off them.
Josiah Morgan
Based retard
Nathan Hughes
so just put the bomb bay in the top and launch the bombs with small rockets, why do I have to think of everything? gosh
Levi Collins
Could a 747 or 737 or DC3 be fitted with hard points and or an adhoc bomb bay? I know the EWAR suites and targeting systems wouldnt be too hard but are the wings and control surfaces able to handle hard points? Could the body be modified to hold an internal bay where luggage would be? A militarized 747 or A300 would be cool as shit.
Thomas Hall
Colton Hernandez
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Christopher Garcia
Remove passenger doors, install mechanisms for plopping bombs out the side. Bombs stored on tracks at the side of the fuselage (no different from passengers) and are slid into position for the bomb-plopper to chuck them out the side in rapid succession without breaking cabin pressure. In place of bombs, could be anything from any off-bore compatible missile to moderate size UAVs. Walkspace down the middle in between the payload tracks, manual work could be done to switch payload tracks this way.
Brandon Lee
The 747-8F doesn't even have a meaningful payload.
Aiden Jones
Turn them into missile trucks that kinda just push the missile out the back.
Christopher Cook
The French crafted a bomb truck out of their P-3 esque Atlantique Brequet. GBUs, torpedos and naval mine deployers.
Adam Brooks
>The Dash8 q400 has around the same power/weight as a p51
Someone needs to put one of those engines into a ww2 fighter or replica.
William Watson
Have niggas not heard of the P8 Poseidon?
Justin Perry
Pic related
Lincoln Phillips
Is there a pic of this plane with multicolor paint job, or like a pride flag. I need it for reasons.
Thomas James
>ww2 fighter or replica
I think it's been done with turboprops. Related: ME-262 replicas are built with modern GE engines wrapped in period authentic nacelles.
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Samuel Gray
What this guy said. This is probably the closest the military has ever gotten to using transport and logistics aircraft as an operational, functional weapons system. Why break it? It works.
Brandon Robinson
>not flying upside down to drop your bombs
Caleb Ramirez
>not opening the window and chucking bombs out of it
Jayden Green
And Tel Aviv too
Aiden Jackson
this is actually quite smart
Thomas Perry
NUGGET TIME
Gavin Thompson
jesus fuck. Now i need to get some interestin use of those engines
Noah Rogers
What you're probably thinking of is basically a Super Tucano
Nicholas Foster
Fill with boom.
Fly into object with cover from fighter escort.
Or you know, just use missiles.
Luis Flores
Ill add on to say that with the insane skills of amateur rocketeers and RC/drone pilots with cheap electronics in today's age, making homemade guided bombs (even rocketry) to drop out of aircraft is not out of the picture.
Imagine making your own guided IED bomb to drop out of a Cessna.
Angel Campbell
The 747 is a military cargo plane with seats, not the other way around