What in your opinion is the best PDW?

What in your opinion is the best PDW?

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>PDW
>civilian available
Doesn't exist, the PDW as a concept and cartridges they fire didn't come about until after the Hughes amendment was passed and new-production full auto weapons became illegal for civilians.

Custard

Kel-Tec Sub 2000. Specifically the one that takes Beretta mags in Navy blue

Meme

Luty chambered in 5.7x28mm or .22 TCM

>Kel-Tec Sub 2000
>pistol cartridge
>16" barrel
>PDW
No, it's a PCC

If you’ve got the 30k+ on hand probably an mp5k just for the available auto sears

>mp5k
Submachine gun, not PDW

Technically there isn’t one as the PS90 is a carbine and all the actual PDW’s were produced years after 1986.

The list of PDWs is pretty small to begin with

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Glock 20 in a caa roni with a 7.25" 9x25 Dillon barrel from KKM shooting handloaded 65gr Lehigh Xtreme Defenders out of Federal Non-Toxic 10mm brass that has small pistol primer pockets using small rifle primes loaded to 357sig SAAMI pressure going over 2500fps.

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>compliance
Lé Mao

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This but unironically.

>hurhurhur muh just break the rules
You literally can't get your hands on a PDW without a class III license or military/LEO status, you dumb zoomer faggot. They don't exist outside of tightly controlled circles. Hell, many of them don't even exist in the US period because of gay import laws.

Just put a sear in an AR and have fun deep in the woods

I was going to try saying something else but yeah this is it.

Okay cool, you now have a fully automatic rifle. Still not a PDW. Try posting something relevant to the thread.

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>keep Honey Badger clone with coat hanger installed
>in the event of its use, remove coat hanger after neutralizing target
>sever/dismantle coat hanger with pliers
>impunity achieved

Or in a glock 20 with rmr and a pistol brace with 30 round 10mm mags. How many 30 round 10mm mags do you think you could fit in a chest rig?

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*glock 40

>5.7x28 isn't a pistol cartridge OR you're admitting the Five-seveN is chambered in a rifle cartridge.
>A Sub2k couldn't be SBR'd like PS90 is
It also folds literally in half.

i like it because sg-1

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Apparently certain PS90's have trigger packs that can be easily modified to FA like the real thing. I don't know how it's done though.

An MP5K converted to .22 TCM, then.

>HURR IT HAS AUTO FIRE DAT MEEN I Jow ForumsOOL!!!
Look at the specifics of what makes a PDW a PDW you dumbass, literally no one can bring one home outside of someplace like a range because none of them were even fully conceived before 1986.
That is a select fire rifle, not a PDW.
If that is true then that is an automatic carbine.

>literally can't get your hands on
You can't buy a PS90 and a hacksaw?

I'm not exactly sure what you'd have to do to the FCG to make it select-fire like a proper P90, but it's pretty easy to convert generations 1-3 (i.e. most any used PS90 you buy) to full-auto only, which certainly meets the definition of PDW.

Also, if we accept as the list of PDWs, there's a couple AR-15 variants there, so make a swift link out of a soda can.

UMP because I can get it in 9mm, 10mm, and 40sw flavors
> that gun sucks!
So do you, but literally

Mp5 is a close second

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You are a fucking retard go back to playing CoD

The entire concept of a PDW, basically a hopped up submachine gun that can defeat body armor, is an entirely retarded concept.

The only thing the P90 is good for is counter terrorism operations where its compact size makes maneuver in confined spaces easier + it can defeat the bad guys if they're wearing body armor. For SWAT and other counter terrorism outfits the P90 is an ideal weapon system. P90 might also work well for guerilla fighting against well equipped enemy troops owing to its light weight, small size, and high firepower.

But what about the ORIGINAL idea behind the PDW? It's supposed to have more firepower than a handgun, it's supposed to be much smaller and more compact than a rifle. It's to be used to equip non-combat troops behind the front lines. Vehicle drivers, engineers, artillery crews, etc.

I say that in this original role, something like the VZ 61 Skorpion would work just as well. Or an UZI. Do you really need to be able to defeat body armor? Are the Taliban wearing body armor? Was ISIS wearing body armor? I think any super compact full auto in a pistol cartridge would work fine for the intended role. The whole "it has to be able to defeat body armor" thing seems like a red herring to me.

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You are the blind bullshit, my main man

> must penetrate armor
I'm gonna assume your typical 2A bodyguard/ cop stuff so I change my answer to pic related

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I trust you've never tried it on live shit. I've shot raccoons and possum with it. It works.
Would channel is better than 9mm.

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I like the 50 round pocket LMG

Poor little fella

For me it's the every gun it's the CBJ MS

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You say "entirely retarded", I say "artifact of the Cold War".

retarded and poor: the post and poster

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how can you be on a board about firearms and other weapons and be compelled to post sympathy for a varmint?

10mm UMP where?

The only one that potentially exists is a registered M11 or M10 Cobray derivative receiver with a MasterPiece Arms MPA57DMG upper and thats provided the magazines are the same and can fit into the reciever.

Fuck. That seems potent.

Heres load data for standard 10mm brass with large pistol primers showing that at the 10mm SAAMI of 37500psi you can hit 2500fps in the 7.25" barrel. If you used the other stuff it would probably be a bit faster.

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one of these days I'll take a pic of my m11 with calico upper and 50 round mag. Its fun.

>>the VZ 61 Skorpion
Chambered in .32ACP.
Bwa-hahahaha....Kek!

Mp5 is easily best faggot. You're gay

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5.7 upper plus full fun ar lower

It looks so silly with the large mag

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>PDW
>because the MP5, MK18, and Krink AK don't exist
Gay and worthless.
There is no need for a firearm between a subgun and a cqb rifle.

SBR PS90's are fun.

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How comparable would an SBRed Ruger CHarger loaded with CCI Stingers be compared to a semiauto VZ-61?

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mcx rattler sbr with the skeleton stock is god tier. took this to a carbine class in june and it kicked serious ass. 300blk btw

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Glock 18 with a stock.

This but toss the roni and add a flux + foregrip.

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Thats what makes it good if you need a pdw it's a pdw, if you need a rifle it's a rifle, and if you need a saw it's a saw.

Flux needs to make 10mm frame compatible not a stocks

Also if they did then do the Flux with the not a foregrip on a glock 40

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I wanna defend myself with one of these bad boys.

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This, also that exact same picture was used in ahoy p90 video

when do you need a saw

When you are being shot at and want to suppress them.

AR pistol + coat hanger more spare parts and more common ammo than any pdw out there

9mm civil liberty penetrates level 3a, which is the point of "pdw" rounds, so anything in 9mm, i like the b&t tp9

Didnt you already make an entire thread about this? I already answered not gonna do it again

When your stocks of ammunition are in danger of collapsing the floor.

M1/m2 carbine retard

>possum
Not cool bro. Possums eat ticks and rats, and are generally bros. Please don't kill possum friends.

'coons can get fucked though, that's fine.

Cool story, faggot.

>What in your opinion is the best PDW?
An AR-15/M4 carbine with an 11.5" or 10.3" barrel. Boring, but true.

Cuck stamp boy can't stop reaching for attention lmao
Guess I'm too poor to bother Jow Forums every other day

Lmao seeth harder, poorfag

what the fuck kinda body armor was that raccoon wearing that you needed a p90?

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They say you can ask for conversion kits to be included when shipped or something. I like 9mm so I wouldnt bother skipping because that's the default configuration

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