What's the process for transferring a handgun permit across state lines?

You can't conceal carry in NY unless your county allows you to get your unrestricted permit.

good luck getting a pistol in NY by "not following the law"

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itt: tough guys thinking they're so tough because they can type out the words "fuck felonies and shit I just carry anywhere"

Well that is true, I just carry anyway.

great, just don't get caught.

I think the last time I took my guns off was because I had to go get my homestead paperwork done for my new house. That's only because the courthouse has metal detectors. Otherwise, I've worn my pistol(s) everyday since I bought it.

I wouldn't carry in any of the states you don't have licenses or licenses that recognize your other state's license purely because if you actually use your conceal carry for the very reasons you're conceal carrying its likely a felony, especially all those orange states in

Well, at that point of not carrying in those specific states. Will you back that up by not going to those states for more than interstate travel?
I will.

see If you carry in a state where you aren't allowed you'll get hit with a felony that is likely bigger than the perp who was trying to mug you. So congrats you're alive but you're also in jail and when you get out with a felony on your record, you'll never get a good job, you'll never get into a good apartment, you'll be homeless and you won't even be able to get federal aide to go to school because felons can't get public assistance.

I live in NY, I can carry anywhere in NY because of this stupid permit except anywhere in NYC because NYC has its own laws like a separate state. This whole nuance of "fuck the police" doesn't work outside your keyboard when theres an entity whose whole purpose is to fuck you in the ass

I think that's a risk I'll take to not get possibly murdered by some wouldbe criminal, that you simply write off as "mugging."

Do you think all the criminals in New York got the pistols they shoot each other with it by "following the law", or "not following the law"?

OP already claims that he's breaking the law by claiming residency in two states, and doesn't seem to care. Why wouldn't he also be happy to break the law by buying a gun illegally? Or buying a gun out of state illegally? Or making his own gun (polymer80 or cartridge conversion cylinder)?

>transfer gun to CA FFL
>CA FFL ships to NY FFL
>you pay shipping/transfer fees/storage fees with NY FFL
>Apply for NY permit via county you hold residence
>Wait several months (year+ if you're in Albany, lol)
>Get pickup letter/coupon
>NY FFL transfers pistol to you

Pick what laws you break, if you wanna break carry laws. Don't break any else. Make sure you tags are in order. Talk nicely. Don't have a bunch of child porn on your computer. It's not hard, I don't have a problem because my state has not only constitional carry, but also reciprocity with all these other states.
I simply dont go to those god awful states or give those god awful states any of my business.

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There is no such thing as a handgun permit in California, if by that you mean a permit to buy/own. If you mean a concealed carry permit, that varies wildly by county.

New York requires a permit to even *touch* a handgun, much less buy or own one. If you're caught with one without a permit, it's a felony with serious prison time. The permit process is complicated, expensive, and time consuming, and you'll probably get turned down. As for concealed carrying, you can just forget about that. Not. Gonna. Happen.

The best solution you're going to find that's legal in both states is a KS7. It's the smallest, most compact, most discreet gun you're going to find that isn't a handgun (which you can't have in New York) and isn't a Shockwave (which you can't have in California). It's only 26" long, so it hides easily by a bedside, and 12 gauge will stop any home invader. It's a good solution - certainly the best you're going to do.

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it could be anything really. Sure your "mugger" could get "attempted murder" because he tried to stab you when you shot him but in NY, attempted murder is 20 to life on paper but with a plea deal he'll get 10-15 all the while having an unlicensed, unregistered pistol in NY gets a minimum of 2 up to 15 but not like it matters, you're a felon and now you might as well be dead because you've been locked out of 75% of good jobs, good places to live and you have no tangible rights. You're likely poor af because you were in jail for so long and unless you have untapped savings you really aren't gonna go anywhere. Hell you can't even legally leave the country because you can't get a passport.

>I'm planning to get a handgun permit in CA, one of the hardest states to get one
>and I want to transfer to a somehow even harder state to get one in
yeah i'm going to stop you right there, if life long new yorkers with a service record and viable reason can't even get one why do you think they would give one to an out of state college kid?

So why havent you moved?

>Do you think all the criminals in New York got the pistols they shoot each other with it by "following the law", or "not following the law"?
You're right, the criminals don't care but if you're also admitting that you don't care about NY law thats the same philosophy of the criminal to start. Sure you could acquire and carry an illegal firearm without a permit in NY but the moment you run into nosy cops or use it you're pretty much forced to run and remove yourself from that situation or get fucked in the ass.

Is this entire thread just a bait so you can keep telling people the government is going to fuck them in the ass if they even try to go to new york with a gun?

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Because I'm not a reactionary to single issues and I'm not hyper reductive about my life choices. I have family here, my house, my career, my everything. To say "fuck all this shit" and move out because I want to have better guns would be absolutely stupid.

Then leave this board.

I don’t think you can transfer a carry permit like you can a drivers license. You will have to go through the whole process for the state you are moving too.

nytimes.com/2013/06/10/nyregion/lawful-handguns-departing-for-new-york-but-unlawful-upon-arrival.html

Basically if you happen to be flying with your pistol and get transferred to La Guardia for any reason you've been pretty much sucked into a felony.

You're accepting the risk that by carrying an unlawful gun you aren't some "fuck the police rebel" or a "fighter for the 2nd" You're a criminal and if you get caught no one will see you as a hero fighting against the state for your rights, you're another statistic.

Former NY resident here in Orange County which is "may issue" depending on how persuasive you are writing to the judge. If that sounds strange, get fucking ready.

First off, NY has reciprocity with no state. None. There is no transfer process. In my county, you needed:
- fingerprints taken digitally at sheriff's
- safety course at sheriff's
- 4 notarized character references not related to you by blood or marriage
- letter written to judge justifying permit
- interview and background check with sheriff

And scheduling fucking prints and the interview took months. Total time to get permit was 13 months. They were booked 4+ months for prints let alone the interview and background check.

Then you need to actually buy a gun, file an amendment to the permit to carry it, get a receipt for it, and wait for the amended be permit to arrive, so add more time.

Good fucking luck.

Some guy just shot home intruders in upstate New York and all he got for an unlicensed handgun was a ticket.

>gett out of my sekrit club because unless you think like a room temperature IQ moron like me you can't be here hyuk

Can I have that source, sounds based.

Pretty sure he got charged with murder

>He got a ticket
No, they arrested him because his dad's pistol wasn't on his license, they eventually dropped the charges.

There is no ticket for "unlawful possession of a firearm"

foxnews.com/us/new-york-man-faces-illegal-weapons-charges-after-killing-2-burglars-in-his-home

He got charged with felony possession of a pistol because it wasn't on his license. This was later dropped but they condemned his house instead.

>If you carry in a state where you aren't allowed you'll get hit with a felony
Depends on the state, it's a felony in NY but in a lot it's a misdemeanor.

Also, if you're carrying somewhere it's a felony -- wouldn't you make some small effort not to get caught?
If you get attacked and have to shoot, would you GTFO and leave this one of the many cases cops can't solve because they have no leads? or would you stand around waiting for the cops to show up just so you can confess to a felony?
You only get hit with a felony if you're stupid (waiting for cops) or unlucky (get IDed by license plate + CCTV or some such). Even then it beats being dead.

If you're willing to accept such shitty conditions for a hobby you may enjoy, seeing as you're here. You mustn't be true to the hobby. You mustn't be true to the intentions of liberty. You mustn't be true to everyone else here. Since your sincerity to the contents of this board are held back by an intention to stay true to the nonsense regulations of a police state formed from a regional democracy of libtards.
You're quite literally a troll to this entire board just by existing.

Yea, I’m a faggot. He got charged with a felony. My bad.

>Also, if you're carrying somewhere it's a felony -- wouldn't you make some small effort not to get caught?
Well normally, a normal citizen who just lived through a life threatening altercation wouldn't run from the scene of a crime regardless. So basically once you defend yourself you have to run and ditch the gun.

>accept shitty conditions
You make it out that all I have here is shitty because the gun laws are shitty when in reality its just the gun laws in this case that are shitty.

>you aren't true to the hobby because you won't give up everything and move out of state for guns.

Yea and racing cars isn't my hobby because all I do is autocross and not on a real race track.
>YOU GOTTA BE TRUE TO THE PEOPLE HERE
eat my ass, take your fake patriotism and throw it in the trash.

also pray you didn't get caught on a camera or get your face seen or any other stupid shit.

You think the gun laws of New York arent shitty? That it's only the permit process of handguns that's shitty?

>gun laws are the only shitty thing about NY

>You think the gun laws of New York arent shitty?
Are you blind?
>when in reality its just the gun laws in this case that are shitty.

>That it's only the permit process of handguns that's shitty?
I didn't mention the process but yes thats really shitty.

Yeah! Just like the Minutemen at the Old North Bridge who went and hid their cannons in the woods!
This is the problem with allowing niggers and spics in the country. White men have a natural respect for the law, even if they don't agree with it, because their forebrains are developed enough to understand the usefulness of the law, and thus they will seek to change the law when necessary. Non-whites are perfect anarchists because their animalistic brains lack such things.

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If all you were able to race is a prius, that had to be registered with the government, and only used on private tracks. Where felonies were going to be in order if you used that prius in anything other than time trials. And then you defended those laws and regulations on /o/, then yeah. You'd still be a shadow of auto racing, that anyone who has felt the freedom of the entire auto racing world.

Polymer 80s are really fun to make

Oh please spare me your rhetoric about some analogy you wanna rip apart. Trying to gatekeep some hobby by calling others not nearly as fortunate in that regard is absolutely retarded. Trying to say that I'm not a REAL gun owner unless I just give up all my shit and move outta state is retarded.

>You defend those laws
I'm not defending them, I'm pointing out that if you think conceal carrying in NY without a permit is smart or "the right thing to do" is hilariously retarded and I pointed that out earlier when you said fuck it but then said "well I just won't go to those states"

I simply wont go to those states, but the right thing to do is conceal carry despite the laws.
I dont even want to pay for sales tax for a sip in a state that doesnt let its citizens easily conceal carry.

>The right thing to do
The "right thing" isn't real because not a single person who decides your fate will give a shit what you think. No cop will say "man what a patriot I'm gonna let him out of these cuffs" No DA "wow what a hero I'm just gonna drop the charges" No judge "yea you know what this law is bullshit you're free to go". Not a single one of them will agree with you about what the right thing to do is because the "right thing to do" is some farce you wanna get behind because you think you have some kind of moral immunity when in reality thats just another term for "pighead retard" you're probably familiar with being called that often.

The risk of getting caught is so minute it doesnt even matter. How often are you getting pulled over nigger?

>The risk of getting caught would be similar to the risk of getting involved in a life or death situation. If you never have a fire, you'll never use that fire extinguisher. At the same time if you do use it, the cops are pretty likely to catch you and despite what morons on Jow Forums say, cops are not based and don't give a fuck despite them posting vapid facebook posts "I'm not enforcing this law its gay"

who are you quoting

Just a misplaced > I really should have stayed on reddit hurr durr

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I'd rather have it, and not need it, than need it and not have it. If you don't mind dying, then go out into the world without a gun. You're as likely to be attacked by someone, no matter if you've got a gun or not. If that initial threat is minute enough that you dont even think you need to carry a gun in the first place. Why would you ever carry one, New York or not?
There are absolutely cases of justifiable self defense that have been met with the gun-toting, perpetrator in the state's eyes, getting away with it.
Jury Nullification is literally a thing, just look how they're getting drug charges mistrialed. God forbid you actually convince reasonable people you deserved that firearm's use in defense of your life.
God forbid you actually have something to live for, that the threat of some Felony is so bad you might as well just never even risk defending yourself.

>Jury Nullification is literally a thing,
but it doesn't happen.

>So if you're transferring your pistol from CA to NY you can travel with it because it belongs to you. You can drive, take an airplane, what ever but don't ever get caught with a pistol that isn't on your permit.

What? But if the TSA happens to search my suitcase and see my gun, and I don't have a New York permit, don't I get arrested?

>What? But if the TSA happens to search my suitcase and see my gun, and I don't have a New York permit, don't I get arrested?
TSA has guidelines for how to transit a gun on a plane. You check the gun as luggage.

I'm not interested in conceal carry, just keeping it in my apartment. Is my CA permit ok just for that?

>What? But if the TSA happens to search my suitcase and see my gun, and I don't have a New York permit, don't I get arrested?
Also yes you get arrested in NY if you don't have a NY pistol license when you take hold of your pistol

Jury Nullification happens all the time, are you daft? Open your eyes.

Not in NY, you can't even touch a pistol in NY without a permit

No it fucking doesn't. Good luck with jury nullifacation on shit like this.

You cant even document jury nullification, juries dont come out and yell "nullified." It happens by mistrials because unanimity is not met. It happens in "not guilties" on heavy charges that jurors dont find appropriate.

Once again, there is no permit to own a handgun in California. All you need is your license, FSC, and a secondary proof of residency like a car registration or utility bill. And once again, as others have said, you literally can’t even *touch* a handgun legally in NY state without a permit - doing so is a felony with serious prison time attached to it. Meaning that using one for home defense is useless, because if you do that and then the cops show up and find out you didn’t have a permit for the handgun you used to defend yourself, you’re headed to state prison for a long stretch.

If you want to defend yourself in NY state, just buy a shotgun.