Foreigner (and not gun owner) here

Have you seen the other threads on Jow Forums? They're mostly fucking trash. I'll take a foreigner who isn't acting aggressively stupid any day of the week.

>a couple hundred bucks worth of parts/tools away.
You literally need a dremel, some markers, and a small piece of sheet steel

>implying there is any good quality threads in this godforsaken shithole

Or some baling wire and pliers

Why use full auto when it’s useless unless it’s belt fed

nice try nigger

You only need a coathanger, whatchu mean.

>Foreigner (and not gun owner) here
>I want to infringe all up in this place
>No need to buy ar-15
>WHY BUY AR-15!?
Sort of answered your own question there Gomer.

Full auto is a meme, and the 5.56x45mm NATO cartridge loses over half of it's muzzle energy past like 250m anyways. If you can make hits on a man target at 300m with irons, you don't need to shoot full auto and waste ammo. Holding fire for as long as possible and ambushing an enemy is still the best strategy, even if you're able to see them from 1000m away with your optic.

>Baling wire

Good to know...

>Does it makes any sense to buy an M16, AR 15 or any assault riffle when you can't use it full auto?
Yes. Most scenarios where you are making accurate and controlled shots, benefit from semi-auto.
>Isn't there a cheaper, more powerful or acurate hunting rifle?
Yeah, there are more powerful rifles chambered in .308, .300 Win Mag, .338 Lapua Mag, etc. In a semi-auto configuration like the AR-10 (bigger and older sibling of the AR-15), they're known as battle rifles.

Oh no, a thread about weapons. Fuck off back to discord.

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Talking about other types of rifles: HK variants/FALs etc. Also life is easier with a drill press and a mill.

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Yes it makes sense. Full auto while fun isn't really practical or efficient and while you could presumably use ANY firearm, it helps to use one that takes the same mags and ammo as your enemy who will have far more logistical support than your guerilla resistance. And while you could again use any rifle to acquire an m4 from an enemy, having your own to practice and train with pre-boogaloo is pretty important.
And yes long range combat would be better than going toe to toe with infantry. But your ar is capable of that as well.

Full auto notwithstanding, there's a reason most militaries have switched to intermediate cartridges, and that reason is weight. For the same weight of 7.62x51mm, a soldier can carry twice as many 5.56x45mm and still be effective within 600 yards. Carrying more ammo means greater chance of one of your shots hitting, and keeps you in the fight longer before needing to resupply. Hence, for combat, a rifle in an intermediate cartridge makes a lot more sense than a bolt action hunting rifle.

Yes, combat rifles are still the most useful in semi, so much so that FA or burst fire isn't used hardly ever, aimed rapid semi is.
>isnt there a
>cheaper
No
>more powerful
Yes, but bigger cartridges mean slower follow up shots and more weight. 5.56 is a great blend of range, terminal effectiveness, and weight, which is why everyone uses it or something very simmilar.
>more accurate
Not really

A semi auto AR strikes the right balance between RoF, weight, and damage, as well as being extremely easy to learn and use, plus the availability of 5.56 makes it the ideal choice for larperators preparing for the boogaloo or any other sthf scenario, although more experienced/capable larperators will likely prefer a battle rifle especially if they want to use a larger caliber.
Full auto is less than desirable during sthf as it burns ammunition faster requiring more frequent resupplies which are not guaranteed since you can't just go to the store and buy ammo.

You are ignorant foreigner making assumptions about things you know nothing about. Do Intel you how to fuck goats? No I don't ,so don't question my firearm usage.

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Going long range against infantry is a good way to get fucked with artillery and air strikes.

Nice try, ATF

dank meme, bro

The point of the AR platform in the U.S. is because:
>there are 10,000,000 veterans that are familiar with it.
>rifles are interchangeable so apre parts are easy to find.
>in a shtf fan scenario, there will either be convoys of 5.56 delivering to your door.
Or
>convoys of 5.56 crates that can be raided
Or
>stockpiles of 5.56 in unguarded military compounds/national guard armory's.

They're the best choice for the U.S., but not for every country.

Stop asking this question, I know you made the MP5 thread too fucker.

Am I going to jail now?

both of you right now tell me why you think this?
do you think the ATF would be able to track your fucking picture through the internet? or maybe ID your feet and match them on some kind of national foot database?

this 'started as a meme but slowly turned into actual paranoia about the ATF' shit is getting out of hand.
the next thing you will do is say I'M atf.

youtube.com/watch?v=4wFsk9p7g_c

Uh, yeah, they can do that. Very easily in fact. Jow Forums will comply with their court ordered release of your information. As they have in the past.

Fucking retarded subhuman glownigger. I'd tell you to kill yourself, but I don't want that to be construed as threatening an officer.

yes, Jow Forums cooperates with the feds, and posting a felony that will put you away for 20 years in federal ass-rape prison is a good way to get people to give a shit

> hunting rifle
No
Best option to choose are battle rifles like AR - 10, FN FAL, M14

They're semi auto but fires more powerful round

Stop playing video games and eat your veggies, sport.

>Does it makes any sense to buy an M16, AR 15 or any assault riffle when you can't use it full auto?
There are some practical reasons. For hunting purposes these might include previous experience with the military version and wanting something you are familiar with.
For survivalist purposes availability of ammo becomes a consideration, where it would depend on where you live.
For insurgency purposes using what the government you are combatting uses is sensible as you can capture their ammunition.

All else being equal battle rifles are superior. The arguments for smaller calibers on soldiers only works when the wider range of activities that soldier might be expected to accomplish is factored in. A single individual or even a small team of individuals with out any possibility of external support will be depending on their own carried weapons to accomplish their objectives more than a soldier would be, and as such sacrificing some of the logistical benefits and flexibility if you have the opportunity to pick your fights to exploit your advantages becomes a more reasonable option.

ammunition is too expensive and heavy
useage is too niche
you'll only need one per 5 men or so

You've never fired a round in combat, intermediate is vastly superior to full power

In short and assuming this isn't bait; volume of fire > absolute terminal effectiveness

youtube.com/watch?v=eupxNN8zsak&t=392s

Which is why ever intermediate cartridge using force in afghanistan or iraq wasn't outranged and didn't have to acquire and reintroduce 7.62. Hang on...

>Even in an Anarchy or fight against the government situation it would be better to compensate the lack of full auto fire with longer shots.
Entirely incorrect.
Also most western armies will use aimed semi-auto with rifles and carbines 99% of the time, which means in practical terms, a commercial market AR15 will give you the functionality of an M16, sans maybe a grenade launcher.

What, against long range harassing fire from durka durkas who can't aim PKMs in the first place?
One DMR can solve that problem, not to talk about your GPMG or outright air support, if bullets touching down just vaguely in your area is a life threatening situation.

>watch combat videos on liveleak of infantry
find one where anyone uses m16/m4 in full auto to shoot back

This. Gotta get real close to.make that option a bad idea. Hence the modern semi auto.

>would be better to compensate the lack of full auto fire with longer shots.
You're not as good as you think you are and won't be taking shots, much less hitting targets, past 300 yards. Bolt actions are obsolete for combat type roles.

>Does it makes any sense to buy an M16, AR 15 or any assault riffle when you can't use it full auto?
As has already been well addressed in the thread there's no real need for full auto.

>Isn't there a cheaper, more powerful or acurate hunting rifle?
You could find a cheaper rifle, sure. But ARs are not expensive, and they have many other benefits too. They are modular so they are easy to customize for different purposes. You can get different uppers for them and swap them out in a matter of seconds. You can drop a .22LR conversion adapter in them and plink for cheap. You can have one upper in a larger caliber and a longer barrel for hunting, another with a shorter barrel for defense, etc. That versatility makes them very practical.

>One DMR can solve that problem

No, it can't. PKM harassment is by dudes under hard cover 900m++ away. Don't bring a rifle to a crewserve fight.

No, buy an AR

DMRs were a psychological talisman for a problem created by stupid, stupid ROE.

>Don't bring a weapon adopted by modern infantry expressly for the purpose of engaging crew served weapons at distance to engage crew served weapons at distance

Smells like pog in here

It's simple maths. If you have less range than the enemy, they can shoot at you without being at risk.

Not if you purchase the accurate fire perk

fully automatic fire on an AR15 is useless 99.9% of the time

3 round burst would be more useful

>all these people saying full auto would be useless
I think, unlike conventional warfare, most engagements will be pretty close. Within a, say, 25m range, I would absolutely prefer to have full auto. Its the difference between one shot that might hit a plate carrier and 3-6 that lit that guy the fuck up, assuming you can proficiently control small bursts like that.

You're already there.

>has timing issues
>fucks up semi-auto too
Nah. You either need semi or full. Anything else is retarded.

Jesus christ how do we solve the europoor problem?

Total internet firewall. You can't change these people. You can't discuss gun rights with these people, the concept of liberty and independence is foreign to these bugs. They can't function without government control, truly incredible. I saw it myself living there for a few years. Once I was impressed to see a ranch/farm combo with horses only to laugh later finding out it was owned by an American.

Get a cheap tube loader 22 semi, grind the firing pin (in Minecraft only)

Realistically it doesn't make sense for someone operating outside of a squad-based situation to have an automatic weapon unless you just wanted to dump into a bunch of flesh bags packed into a tight space.

Otherwise

>implying im european even

Not in the AR. Due to the burst cam design the burst disconnector is always riding on the notches giving you inconsistent trigger pulls.