Anglo-Iranian Impending Conflict

DESU if push came to shove then the best Britain could do is beat a fighting retreat. The two frigates they have are only armed with 32 short-range SAM systems and no CIWS. At least the missiles they have are the new CAMM units, which have better capabilities than the older Sea Wolf. Their destroyer is marginally better armed, with 48 aster missiles and a pair of phalanx CIWS guns. Though the destroyer may be armed with a mix of aster-15 short/medium range missiles and the aster-30 long range missiles. They don't have the numbers or firepower to stay and fight. While Iran's military is shitty, they could just overwelm the brits with numbers alone.

>Can the S-300 or S-400 system shoot down tomahawks?
Probably not in practical terms, low altitude makes it difficult. It can shoot it down but only if it has a clear line of sight between the tracking radar and tomahawk.

The Brexit country deciding to enforce EU sanctions against non-EU members that hadn't been violated yet, then getting butt-blasted upon reciprocation

Your forgot the most important aspect:

Iranian side:
>nationalist, male supremacist warriors

British side:
>pitiful, nihilistic, feminine mercenaries

UK has already stated that war is not an option. Bongistanis are cowards.

theweek.co.uk/102362/is-the-royal-navy-too-small-to-deal-with-iranian-threat

>In the recording, an Iranian officer can be heard telling the Stena Impero: “If you obey, you will be safe. Alter your course to 360 degrees immediately, over.”

>The Royal Navy asks the Iranians to “please confirm that you are not intending to violate international law by unlawfully attempting to board the MV Stena”.

In a related news, cianiggers got btfo in Iran:

zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-22/iran-sentences-cia-spy-ring-death-publishes-video-photos-appearing-show-americans

Pics of spies: en.farsnews.com/imgrep.aspx?nn=13980431000527

> not wanting to start a war half a world away that the US already pussied out of makes you a coward

bongs took their tanker, they took one of theirs.
only fucking morons would keep poking them and escalating until you're pushed into a corner. anyone with half a brain would have predicted that. unless this is their actual goal, starting a war, britbongs are run by some of the stupidest motherfuckers on the planet.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Would Tomahawks work in Iran? They have way too many mountains.

Are you fucking serious right now?

Iran could intercept every British ship there is and they would just keep bending over. Bin that knife

No user. Jet turbines can't fly over rock mountains.

Yea, I'm dead serious. I believe the effectiveness of cruise missiles would drop by 90% on mountainous terrain.

>Alter course to 360 and walk away

Then you're a blithering idiot. How do you mentally represent cruise missiles? Do they fly into the sides of mountains in your brain?

According to vatniks, yes.
According to Russians when they didn't shoot 59 of them down over Syria, that's a resounding no.

I expect the MoD is really regretting the lack of mark 41 on type 45s now. Most viable weapon against iran would probably have been type 45s defending themselves with asters & phalanx while shitting tomahawks over Tehran

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Iran doesn't want to because that would probably start an actual war. Not just with Britain because we all know how much blumpf's neocon handlers want that fight to happen. They merely see seizing a tanker as responding in kind, hence why they only seized one of the two they intercepted.

>Would Tomahawks work in Iran? They have way too many mountains.
and guess what the response would be.

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Given Iran's stellar manufacturing quality I'm not too worried

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There is still room for a small number of mark-41 cells in a "fitted for but not with" area, though the funds for such an upgrade will never come. Hell, given the space taken up by the current sylver VLS, you could probably fit a 64-cell launcher on a type 45 with room to spare. Packing that full of SM-6s, SM-2s and ESSMs would make for a far greater defensive screen. Regardless, the lack of throw-weight is gonna get the British ships sunk. I think the biggest issue is gonna be a lack of CIWS on the frigates, the DS30s are good for small boats and not sea-skimming missiles. And while CAMM may be able to rapidly fire, having just one layer of defense that you can't reload is gonna be an issue.

that's because you're a moron.

Source for the # of combat ready tomcats? Ive always heard its somewhere from 20-40

Implying the US wouldn't jump in a BTFO Iran

The UK might not have a lot of 'physical force' but we certainly have a ton of political power regardless.

Denying that would be retarded.

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Iranian missiles have already been proven worthless in combat scenarios
See: USS Mason incident
keep seething

>Amerifat die for me again!
DER EWIGE ANGLO

The best possible outcome from this, assuming it doesn't turn to a war, is that the MOD might actually get some fucking funding for once in 50 years and be able to build a few more ships to bulk out our ability to actually do shit against other nations.

Nobody except the cia, mossad, and iran actually know for sure. From what ive heard it looks like they may now only have semi active and ir missiles anyway. As much as I love the tomcat they are all gonna get amraamed by aesa equipped superbugs and f35 from 40nm out, if they dont get fucking tomahawked in their hangers first (likely).
Im just praying.some survive so we can capture them and bring em home for the airshow circuit.

>uk declares war on day of FA cup final
>thousands of pissed up footie fans are unwittingly diverted from Wembley stadium to tehran
>iranian capital overwhelmed by wankered yobs pillaging every kebab shop they see and kicking babies around as footballs
>iran surrenders in a matter of hours, britain becomes international pariah as a result of thousands of crimes against humanity
>jurgen klopp tried in the Hague

Just to add to the other replies even if they could stop them? Do they enough weapons systems to stop them. Just like three ticonderogas and two Arleighe burkes have almost 1,000 tomahawks between them. It's hard to think they have 1,000 effective interceptors.

yes, that's why trump doesn't want a piece of Iran. and neither does the UK now that they've been pushed into a corner. both proven cowards that talk big but can't deliver shit.
cope harder.

That's an Article 5 waiting to happen.

No, no i have no misconceptions about them getting utterly btfo by Modern day U.S. tech. Frankly i agree with nobody really knows except some iranian officials and cia.
The thing that gets me is when people say 3-12 and no weapons. Theyve had these things for so long and it's kinda common knowledge that they have russian engines. Ive never been able to get people who think they dont have weapons retrofitted, it has a powerful ass radar (Despite being old) Jury-rigging some russian fox 1's has to be easy as shit. These iranians are building nuclear reactors and supposedly warheads and your telling me they can't guide a missile with radar? Id like to see the cats go down in blazes of fire, merging with u.s. planes, a warriors death. Getting schwacked is obviously more practical, But fuck would i love to see american made F-14a's with russian engines and missiles manufactured in some hell hole flown by iranians

nigger, only the US can invoke Article 5.

I think they replaced the o.g. radar with an indigenous design, same with missiles. So who knows how capable it is now.
are you a cretoid or just memeing

They definitely swapped the missile's Phoenix's have a shelf life of like 15 years i THINK if not less.
Do you have a source for the radar? i havent heard that before but sounds interesting

>are you a cretoid or just memeing
remember when in 2015, France talked about invoking article 5 after the ISIS massacre and was told by the US to stfu?
yeah, that's the reality of Article 5. it's an unspoken rule that only the US can really invoke Article 5.

>Implying the US wouldn't jump in a BTFO Iran
The US wants no part of this conflict.
Trump wants to get reelected in 2020.
UK (and their pro-Israel neocon warhawks) are on their own.

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Salty Bong detected.
Start shit get hit. Stop stealing Iranian boats faggot unless you plan on fighting

>violate sanctions like the niggers they are
>get ship seized
Fuck off Jow Forums.

They should create and enforce a dmz along Iran's coast, including a no fly zone.

>my country can tell another country what they can and cant do with neutral nations
Fuck off lefty/pol/

god i fucking love iran LOL

c'mon LADS LETS PLAY SOME FOOTIE

>t. Shlomo Shekelstein

If Iran couldn't defeat a few hillbillies in Syria without Russia, how can they defeat UK?

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do iran shills have any defense for anything besides calling everything/everyone/every concept they don't like jewish

>acting like you are in a position of power by suggesting Americans will be your lapdogs that will die for you by the thousands
I said it before and I'll say it again

DER EWIGE ANGLO

HE WANTS WAR, HE STARTS WAR

Iran is also on the right side of history because of melanin and Islam. Britain has no chance of victory regardless of tactical outcome.

This is wildly false. There have been statements, just for example, noting that NATO would answer an Article 5 invocation from Estonia.

You are an absolute fucking retard. Aside from Iran not actually being hyper mountainous, cruise missiles are more than capable of flying over them.

Seriously my dude, kill yourself immediately for the good of the gene pool.

>what is tercom

Lol, the country leaving the EU decided to enforce EU regulations against Iran. It was totally not because the US asked for them to harass Iran

Iran’s EFPs apparently put a dent in some invading forces though and made the “hero’s” feel less safe while hiding in metal boxes

Only as a pretext for a us led war against Russia. Turkey should have invoked article 5 against the cia during the coup attempt.

What invasion? Literally nobody is invading Iran. All that would need to be done is the destruction of the navy and air force and there'd be nothing they could do.

Fuck off nigger, that makes literally no sense.

Erdogan should be publicly executed and eventually will be.

The invasion of Iraq

Estonia is such a shitty puppet country, if they invoked article 5 it would be their US handlers doing it. So his point about only the US can invoke article 5 stands.

>build EFPs
>produce casualties
>USA spends 15 years of money and blood and training, gradually adapting like the Borg
>guys...EFPs worked in the past, so they're perfect now amirite?!

yeah

Holy neck beard fuck, you just tried to use Star Trek in an argument about Iran

>t. EFP supporter

At least use a relevant example like Houthi IED camouflage from 17-18

Execute all nato heads of state who oppose the US directives? Sounds like the Warsaw Pact or worse

Boring reality would more be

>UK surges forces to area
>RAF hatefucks the IRIAF
>Anything larger than a speedboat in the Iranian navy held in port due to Astutes in water
>UK doesn't send any escorts into the area, because they're not fucking stupid
>RAF doesn't have weight of mass to keel over everything Iran has on the ground
>Eventual diplomatic solution found
>All that has truly been accomplished is the loss of the last flying F-14s.

Why do you presume they'd just be sitting out there getting shot? The UK has nothing to gain by sailing escorts around in there.

Any exchange would be sub-surface and airpower based.

Tomahawks alone aren't going to win a war.

The coup had nothing to do with the S-400 situation cocksucker. Slit your throat.

The failed coup by the US led to Erdogan seeking increased independence from NATO (US) foreign control. The S400 deal is just the beginning, angry child

>noting that NATO would answer an Article 5 invocation from Estonia
LOL'd fucking hard.

Also, are you denying the fact that US told France to stfu about Article 5 after the ISIS attack of 2015? You can look it up on NYTimes if you want to argue that.

Estonia has massively improved its economy and state since the Soviet Union dissolved. It's a model for what a post-Soviet state can do.

But by all means, keep being an ignorant cumstain. Clearly working out great for you.

As a Britbong I can actually imagine this happening
Isn't it usually Amerimutts getting Britain involved in their wars? either way I don't particularly want thousands of British or American teenagers dying in Iran because of some tankers that *definitely weren't false flags*
Both Iran and Britain are run by fucking retards, I'm British and our government is fucking garbage but no matter who we vote in we get the same shit sadly.
America most likely was begging for us to harass Iran as well, if you think the Americans have no blame here you're retarded.

You're such a dumb fucking nigger that you actually think the story is as simple as you've (wrongly) described it.

Get murdered with a claw hammer.

Lol retard over 80% of Estonia’s economy is foreign direct investment. When NATO said they would answer an article 5 from that tiny piece of crap, it was telling the US they would go along with a war on Russia

Claw hammer used by your parents in a failed abortion must be what made you so stupid

the US can't even win against iran

yes, but due to altitude it's very difficult

the pantsir can, Iran does have them

that was the pantsir, and they did successfully engage israeli cruise missiles at some point

literally would be sunk in an hour or two

>Regardless, the lack of throw-weight is gonna get the British ships sunk. I think the biggest issue is gonna be a lack of CIWS on the frigates, the DS30s are good for small boats and not sea-skimming missiles. And while CAMM may be able to rapidly fire, having just one layer of defense that you can't reload is gonna be an issue.
Imagine if they had kept their tiger cruisers and updated them over the years. 150mm main guns that fire 20 rpm, 3x 76mm autocannons that could fire at 240rpm with proximity fuses.
youtube.com/watch?v=ujoT_3XUp5M

turkey is shifting to the Russia/China alliance

>Can the S-300 or S-400 system shoot down tomahawks?
no

where can the RAF deploy airpower where Iran can't retaliate?

>Ivan being butthurt over nobody wanting to invest into his gay country

Go and wander in the empty ruins of your industry

>is shifting
they've pretty much already shifted. it's a done deal. now it's just gonna be a messy divorce over the next few years.

go back to sucking off trannies and avoiding offending the minorities ok west cuck

No.

The again, ground curvature prevents most big anti air missiles from doing so. 300km range on paper doesn't mean shit if there is even a slight hill between and your target is a system designed to fly close to ground.

Also, S-400 is a meme. Some Russian anons analyzed a Russian MoD press conference and compared the "we detected Israeli F-16s" story and picture to what was on flightradar24.com that day.

tl;dr S-400 can't tell the difference between passenger jets (which have fucking transponders screaming that they are one) and fighters. Russian MoD presented commercial flights as Israeli combat operations with a straight face. And who can blame them if all they have is the pic related state of the art UI display of the S-400.

Source: topwar.ru/152232-vmesto-izrailskih-f-16-radar-s-400-obnaruzhil-passazhirskie-samolety.html

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>Kadyrov has withrawn 1000 roubles from your account

Say "Chechnya is cool!"

500ml of corn syrup has been added to your big gulp cup

not mine faggot i work in the government lol

>Shitting on Americans for being fat when Russians starve and are forced to smuggle in cheese

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that was done on purpose to obscure the actual UI

the actual press release was disinformation

nice try americuck, can't wait until you lose your next vietnam

>they literally eat from filthy shovels

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>dat desperation
kek'd

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Cyprus.

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it would have to fly over Israel, Jordan, KSA and Kuwait to reach Iran. The route you plotted is laughable. They would immediately enter the enemy space.

Keep denying facts nigger. You're going to end up in front of the firing squad anyway.