Thoughts and experiences on a M1A...

Thoughts and experiences on a M1A? My PTR is jamming and getting repaired by PTR right now but idk if I’ll ever have full confidence in it again. Already own ARs, want something more unique.

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outdated pos just like the ptr. get a scar 17s

I like the rifle version m1a. It’s a nice solid and reliable rifle. Only gripe is that it’s hard to put mags in it.

Any design can fail due to manufacturer defects. I think the M1A is a much more ergonomic rifle, but I wouldn't say it's an inherently more reliable design. It lends itself well to high-power style shooting, but the internals are very exposed to the elements.

If you just want something unique to have fun with, unfailing reliability isn't a huge priority. I would just be content with the PTR once it comes back fixed.

Why does the front end of the forestock line up with the top in that pic? Might want to look at something else OP

like any other battle rifle, you get it because you want it.
it's pretty much not gonna fuck up unless you feed it steel (apparently, i just never have) and can lose zero from taking it apart.
it's also got the best irons imo out of any battle rifle. but then you wanna add a scope on there, like with other rifles it sits high so you need a riser for your cheek most likely.
otherwise there's not much to say. shoots great, runs fine, feels good to shoot.

>it’s hard to put mags in it
yeah it takes a decent bit of practice to get muscle memory for it, but once you're there you're there.
mags can be fucking expensive is a reasonable complaint. For the springfield ones you're looking at $40+
havent tried any plastic mags for em.

your ptr jamming is definitely something PTR fucked up, the design is pretty much jam resistant unless something is straight up broken. i own both and have had problems with new rifles before too, but they fix it so at least there's that.

got about 800 rounds through my SA M1A loaded(archangel stock, NM barrel, glass bedded, blah blah). shoots insanely small groups @ 100yds and it's only Failed to feed once(bad crimp). my only gripe with it? ammo is expensive. if you get one, get the socom model so you can go with a blackfeather stock if you feel so inclined.

yeah like this user did you can pour some money into it to get accuracy you can't get out of the fal or g3 clones.
not sure if the scar is as accurate as an autistically accurized m1a/m14 but it's generally a more accurate rifle and won't lose accuracy overtime so there's that.

scars always going to be more accurate than a m14. even if you accurize an m14 it wont stay that way.

m1a owner. its a gun you buy for reasons other than functionality. I find myself doing this weird pose when putting magazines in. Trying to clean the bore and barrel is a pain in the ass. My op rod has broken 3 times in the past 5 years because of the ammo i shoot. The action of the gun causes it to do this weird bow and arrow wobble when speed shooting. The optics are hard to use after 100 rounds because of the heat coming off the barrel. The gas tube comes unscrewed sometimes if not torqued down. Lastly, it is not friendly to optics. All of that said, It is still my favorite gun. Puts a smile on my face every time i shoot it.

Literally the most cringe opinion possible

Thanks. I do use my PTR for deer hunting and property protection but it isn’t my bedside rifle.

not what i meant and i acknowledged that
i just dont know the scar's accuracy, even the longer barrel one, and idc to look it up because it's probably pretty good.

Ever shot steel casings through it? It’s all I shoot with my PTR unless I, at an indoor range. No point in shooting brass cause PTR fucks up the brass.

Wow sounds like a few problems I didn’t think about... what ammo have you been running and which version did you get?

negative. been all brass. also haven't shot mine indoors though i'd imagine i'd get some looks if i did.(like why the fuck did you bring that in here?)

:P

It doesn't like monarch ammo. Found dirt cheap at Academy sporting goods store in Texas. I picked up the standard version with the composite black stock and scored four 20 round magazines for free from the dealer at a gun show. I was told the burn rate of the powder in the monarch ammo is what brakes the op rod. No problems with other ammunition.

cleaning any m1 action is a pain.
not sure why his op rod is breaking so much, he must shoot a lot with heavy loads. it's not a common issue. i dont shoot a fuckton with it so i wont say it's not a known thing.

can attest that the irons can get blurred from heat, but this happens with everything i own. my ptr is actually the least bad about that.

If I were to ever get a 308 rifle, it would probably be either a G3 or FAL variant. If anything just because they lend themselves better towards optics use.

>Unique
>M1A

Pick one.

he said
>more unique
literally anything not an AR is more unique than an AR now.

I had an Springfield m1a and it was neat but it just felt meh when compared to shooting my garand

22 inch barrel'd M1A is going to be far more accurate than a scar.

hi i like the m14 but what're you basing this off of?
it's definitely not going to be more accurate out of the box.

Mine tends to jam with SA 20rd magazines.

"Monarch" branded ammo can be anything from Tula to PPU. Check the headstamp.

are you sure it's not just 1 mag?
i have 1 20, 1 10, and 1 5.
no jams on any of them. iirc they're all springfield, the 20 definitely is.

One of my favorite rifles to shoot. Dont listen to the autismos who trash talk it.

Yea I already own a CMP garand... seems like this would be a little different. But if it doesn’t shoot steel ammo too well, might be too expensive to turn into a range warrior.

longer bbl m14 are less accurate than shorter ones and the M14 is a slut to accurize

M1a is a casted garbage boomer gun, PTR is better in everyway, just let them fix it

Thinking of getting one myself too OP. Those Scout models on Buds with the plastic stocks printed to look like American flags are a tad on the goofy side, but the FDE is starting to grow on me the more I see it around.

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i wanted the OD green synthetic stock but i could never find it in stock. so i went with classic wood. still want od green tho

FALs are pretty forgiving and easy to work on out of the big three battle rifles. I know it's not what you were asking about, but I've had all three at one point.

Which one is your fav?

>my cold war era rifle does not perform to my modern standards
>what about this other cold war era rifle guys?
>is it Jow Forums approved?

>want something more unique
>m1a

You're just on fire

Just get an AR-10

>it’s hard to put mags in it.
Identical to an AK

tbf a ptr jamming is bullshit. ive never found any type of ammo people say they don't like and ive shot some shit through mine.

ak mag well is more receptive and helps you get there.
there is no guidance on the m1a or any visual indication where to line the mag up properly.

you have to just do it and get used to rocking it in in the right spot without looking. on an ak you can see the mag well and as long as you get the top of the mag in there, you can easily rock it in from there.

Springfield a shit get james river armory or fulton armory or something that doesn't have a casted reveiver.

find any time the casted receiver has been an issue for anyone in the entire world
post a link to an in-stock JRA or fulton m14. we'll all gladly wait.
he can buy a fulton for like 3x the price of a springfield and wait for 2 months for it to show up, but that's really the only alternative.

come to think of it, i've actually never seen anyone on Jow Forums post their personal JRA or fulton m14

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A fudd rifle AR or AK.
When it went to the National Matches, for several years it got beat by the M-1 Garand.
It wasn't until the armorers learned to work the timing and go from a 150 grain bullet to a 168 grain bullet with a tiny hollow point uniformed in width and depth.

I'm sure. I have 3-20rd S.A. mags, and they all jam. The 10rd mag that came with the rifle works fine.

that's very interesting, user. i'm curious what would cause that, really.
do they all jam reliably on the same round count?
have you tried 3rd party mags?

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checkmate ind still makes gov contract mags. they're expensive but they work and they're steel

Lmao if youre ptr is not reliable enough for you then you dotn want an m1a with a delicate exposed flower oprod action.

This nigga probably wants to put it in a cqb stock so he can show off his sniper rifle. Still think thats ergonomic? I mean, how much does it fucking weigh?

Best sights... a fucking ghost ring on the expensive ass cqb models springfield shills out? You gotta be kidding me.

The weight is good thing for a semiautomatic dmr type gun. It allows for quicker follow up shots

Said the retard

>cqb
why are you mentioning that?

Thats because nobody buys these shit rifles but maybe boomers who are too stupid to work the interweb

>nobody buys them
>standard models are out of stock
>various loaded versions out of stock
>only ones reliably in stock are the ugly as fuck american flag ones
Jow Forums does not represent gun owners. most anons are contrarians who don't even own the guns they claim are good

I haven't tried any other mags yet.
I think it's an issue with the weapon itself. Maybe a lemon. I understand that newer Springfield M1A's aren't even made by Springfield Armory anymore.
When my rifle was brand new, I had to file away some material around the magazine well so the 10rd mag would properly eject.

howdy

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well you can shit on springfield and their quality all day, but their warranty is objectively good so at least use it if you think it's the rifle.

>When my rifle was brand new, I had to file away some material around the magazine well so the 10rd mag would properly eject.
what the fuck? you should've mentioned this to springfield before taking a file to it in case it voids the warranty..

>well you can shit on springfield and their quality all day
Good, because it's shit
>but their warranty is objectively good so at least use it if you think it's the rifle.
Notice how people always say this in defense of shit-tier companies. No one brags about how great HKs warranty is, because nobody even knows what it's like to contact them. If your selling point is they'll fix the broken pile of shit they shipped you in the first place, and the guy fixing it will be the same one who fucked it up, that's not good.

im not defending springfield
are you the guy who has mag issues?
i sure hope not

Nah, I'm just jumping in here to shit on springfield desu

im surprised there haven't been more of you. usually any time an m1a is mentioned you get 5 anons sperging out about it for 100 posts

Can't help it, I'm autistic. By the way, did you know Springfield has no ties to the Springfield Armory that made actual military arms like the m14 and 1903? Even their name is fake knockoff bullshit designed to sell shoddy products in an era before the internet, to unsuspecting buyers.

I'm done now

yeah i think everyone but zoomers knows this when buying springfield stuff now.
if you do any research you find boomer forum debates real quick about all this. they're pretty fun to read because they try so hard to not be mad.

M1As...they're reliable and accurate for me when a friend owns them and he's a gunsmith who can redo the bedding and fiddle constantly. I like them. But I have a Garand fetish.
>PTR jamming...perhaps a professional diagnosis is required?

m1 patern rifles are the best in the world
>m1 garand
>m1 carbine
>mini 14
>mini 30
>mk 14
>m1a
>bm59
All well known, all proven on the battlefield, all more effective than any of their counterparts. You literally can not prove me wrong

>They are piece of shit rifles that shoot themselves loose and you have to rebed them every couple hundred rounds!!!

Don't listen to the fudd lies, get a Rockola or Bula forged M14 and you will be happy.

Youre so wrong that I'm sure the only way anyone could think something so stupid would be if they have never owned EITHER of the two.

That’s pretty funny. I also thought about a tavor 308 if that upsets you too.

not that guy but
>tavor 308
yeah im upset.

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I have one in a boyds walnut stock and a couple basic accuracy upgrades. Very fun to shoot with irons. Expect minute of torso accuracy out to 500yd unless you go full autism on accurizing

Oh yeah, ammo can be pricey and if you're reloading brass life is short because it's a little rough on cases extracting. I picked up some norinco shit to blast through and also have a couple hundred rounds of target stuff a buddy loaded for me.

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>minute of X out to Y distance
that isnt how moa works.
1moa is the same whether it's 25yds or 1000yds.

I know jackass, I'm saying it's approx a 3moa rifle. Minute of torso is an expression for "good enough" accuracy

Not even close. "Rock in" is about as specific a description as "rifle".

>>you should've mentioned this to springfield before taking a file to it in case it voids the warranty..
Don't get your panties in a wad. The filing was done to the material on the composite stock, not the metal of the magazine well.