US Secret Service Adopts Glock 19 MOS Gen 5 in 9mm

they sell heavy as fuck AR's with no chrome lining, a few barely decent pistols, and NOTHING else. And their mp5 is ludicrously expensive when Turkish and domestic models are exponentially cheaper on the exact same tooling.

give me a g36 clone

give me a 416 clone

give me an mp7 pistol chambered in 5.7x28

give me better ump45 options

>they wont, because fuck you

RIP .357 Sig.

unlike you, underage phoneposter, I actually read articles rather than just the headlines. Do you think 5000 rifles can wipe out their well over 200m euros in debt, which their own auditor (KPMG) says they don't have the liquidity to cover? it might barely help pay off some the millions in fines that the german govt has put on them for selling rifles to Mexican drug cartels.

When you have their budget why would you drop the .357 sig for 9mm?

will sig continue to be used by various LEO agencies, or is it about to go the way of the smith and wesson 59 series

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Thought the gen 5s had the front serrations?

>5000 rifles
>sold to the US Army
now i havent read any articles but that sounds like something the US army would spend 1bil on easily

it's not standard on any gen but is an option.

What makes you think the German government is going to let their pet small arms manufacturer go out of business?

because germany is going to go out of business too

The slide pictured reads "Gen 4"

>give me a g36 clone
>give me a 416 clone
But they do.
>give me better ump45 options
Why would they, USC didn't sell so whats to indicate that another attempt would?

Guys I’m scared. I really want a usp before HK goes under. What do?

>200,000 per rifle
Nigga wut?

I fucking hate all of you. I hate you all so, so fucking much.

don't let the door hit you on the way out bb girl

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Hi, General Smith here. 200,000 per rifle? They must be outstanding rifles. I've already had my aides run through simulation tests using the new IPS System (Instant Procurement System System).
I'm sold and you can go ahead and get the batches ready, the sooner they're helping our boys out the better.
We spare no expense when it comes to making sure everyone comes home, that's the most important part!

Dude, I CAN'T FUCKING LEAVE

I guarentee without a doubt that if HK started selling semi auto G36s to the US civie market. They would sell out.

Post proof HK sells semi auto G36 to the public. Amd not a fuckin conversion kit

Tommybuilt is already selling them, including 300blk and pistol variants with 'braces'

Glock is better than hk in every way. Da/sa is also for retards which is why everyone has moved away from it.

HK243.

Unfortunately that's the situation we all find ourselves in here

It should be mandatory that feds and cops have DA/SA guns

>Glock is better than hk in every way.
I honestly can't tell if you're trolling, inexperienced, or retarded

>Probably inexperienced, might own a Glock maybe, can't hold a 1" 5 or 10 shot group at 7yds with pistols, doesn't realize HK guns are nearly the same price as Glock, and is a total tool

Give me an mp7 in 4.6x30
Give me a standard sized mp5
Give me a hk93
Also hk91
Also a real subcompact p30/vp9
Give me a single stack .380 and 9mm

H&K really has no one to blame but themselves. Their stupid mag prices, their slavish devotion to mil/LE contracts. Fuck those kraut colt-tier idiots.

>guy says glock is better than hk
>you cant tell if hes trolling
>cant tell if hes trolling
maybe if you stopped for a second and realized that glock perfection™ is a term for a reason you'd realize that he's not trolling and you're an idiot.

TAKE THAT DOUBTERS. TAKE THAT BITCHES. GLOCK IS THE BEST. EVERYONE ELSE JUST IMITATES. SUCK OUR FAT BLACK GLOCK COCKS.

Glock gives massive discounts to military and law enforcement, selling their guns at a near loss so that civilians will try to ape "the pros" and buy Glocks at a vastly overinflated price. When you're the bean counter purchasing for an organization, price comes before all else.

But it's an ironic term used to mock Glock owners for buying a gun that costs more than it's worth, then diving hard into the sunk cost fallacy and spending twice as much fixing it with aftermarket parts.

tfw i own a glock because i bought one while active and it was cheap as fuck compared to similar pistols

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Lol post groups faggot. There is no legitimate reason hk is better than glock at all. You simply have a fantasy with it cause of movies/video games and so you have personal feelings towards it. It is objectively worse than the glock. Both are reliable and have accurate barrels, but the glock has a better trigger and firing system (striker > da/sa), a lower bore axis, and more part availability. Hk is also a retarded company swimming in debt and their customer service sucks.

Go ahead, come up with some bullshit reason for why your pet favorite gun is the best gun ever, I don't really give a shit. All you're going to say is "muh ergonomics" ignoring the fact that ergonomics is subjective and depends on the persons hands. Realize that a huge proportion of militaries, police departments, and spec ops use glock nowadays while hk is dying. It's not a coincidence.

>Give me a standard sized mp5
They really need to do this
>Give me a hk93
No market
>Also hk91
Nobody would buy them when PTR would be a third the price
>Also a real subcompact p30/vp9
Bitch the SK is tiny
>Give me a single stack .380 and 9mm
That's fucking retarded
>H&K really has no one to blame but themselves. Their stupid mag prices
The mags are expensive to make, they mill the mag catch for christ sake
>their slavish devotion to mil/LE contracts.
Yeah, because they have to pay like 30% MORE in taxes on civilian sale guns. You'd chase contracts too if you could avoid almost $200 in fees on your cheapest products

The real news is that they're switching from a meme round to 9mm. In b4 someone claiming this is so SS can't defend Trump from an assassin and that this has been organized by the Deep State.

Get that non ambi mag release shit outa my face.

You'd think the SS would be way more tactically autistic than that. What if they have to do a left hand reload while dragging the president or an arm goes down?
>h-hold on mr. assassin, glock only puts the controls on one side... n-now if you'll wait until I can slam this tight fitting plastic on plastic mag in with the force of a spaceship launch so it actually seats...
Drillbros know what I'm talking about.

Not him, but having handled both HK's trigger, grip angle, and sights are much better than Glock's.

gen 4 was perfect so they kept most of the features the same when they moved to gen 5.
all gen 5 have gen 4 etched into them like that.

how the fuck would HK be even close to going out of business if they are outfitting the entire french army with 416s, and selling a fuckton of M27s to the Marines, also how soon until a Secret Service Agent shoots a VIP through a wall while field stripping their gun

Have the SS ever fired a round in defence of a prez? Makes sense that a meme agency would be outfitted with a meme gun

The trigger on a glock is shorter and lighter than the da pull on the hk, and the first shot is the most important so yes it matters. Once again, I knew these are the only arguments you cucks can come up with: muh grip angle, muh trigger, muh ergos...
Those are subjective things you moron. I don't like the grip angle on hk, I like the glock grip angle more, yet I won't say glock is more ergonomic than the hk cause it depends on the person. Don't post again till you get an education and learn how to debate effectively.

>There is no legitimate reason hk is better than glock at all
They're more accurate, more reliable, made of higher quality steel with a better heat treatment, have full rails instead of a pig nosed single tooth abortion, come with better sights, DA/SA is inherently safer to holster and manipulate under stress, the mags drop free and are less susceptible to mud and sand, they disassemble easier, have less felt recoil, and more grip customization to meed the shifting subjective ergonomics of different users. They're also capable of firing higher pressure ammo.

>They're also capable of firing higher pressure ammo.
name any modern pistol that can't.

>The trigger on a glock is shorter and lighter than the da pull on the hk
Which is why cops keep touching off rounds into people under stress

HK LEM is better than a Glock, and a skilled shooter isn't tripped up by DA/SA
Glock is for people who can't shoot

Its tome to accept that in the future Glock will be the only pistol manufacturer

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Fucking Glock, for one.

cuz 357 sig is a meme round

LOL wrong on everything. Glock is more accurate and more reliable. Glock disassembles easier too... hilarious that you were wrong in your entire post. Enjoy your shitty pistol that no military or police want to use. Till your shitty overpriced garbage rod gets as many spec ops, military and police contracts as glock, don't bother posting söyboy

>Glock is more accurate and more reliable. Glock disassembles easier too
I mean, if we're just outright telling fucking lies I guess

You're the one telling lies. Glock is proven more accurate and more reliable which is why it beats out hk everytime in military trials

See, that's a good fucking reason to own a glock and you did the smart thing.

This plus the caliber change makes me think someone wants Trump assassinated.

Do you actually know how DA/SA works? You type like you're underage, so you might just be nogunz.

That looks much better than any Glock.

>Glock is proven more accurate and more reliable
Lol. No

pistol-training.com/archives/2668

Imagine being invested enough to just make all of this shit up. Imagine trying to flex on fucking HK with a Glock, of all guns.

>more accurate

I had a special chuckle at this.

Seriously, people try to swing on HK eith Glocks and FNs all the time. Walther is axway more logical choice, they have some legitimately precise pistols to rival the P30's 1.6" at 25yds

It's sunk cost fallacy. Glocktards (separate from people who just like Glocks) buy into the Elite Glock Operator memes, buy a Glock to LARP as an operator, get disappointed when it doesn't perform as expected, upgrade it to semi-decent status (doubling the cost), then because of their investment feel compelled to defend it. Say you don't like S&Ws, Walthers, HKs, Rugers, Sigs, or even CZs, and most of their owners will shrug or say "okay faggot". Say you don't like Glocks, and it is a personal stab at the heart of the Glocktard, an assault on their identity, and they will come at you in a shrieking fury.

HK fag here, to clarify if you say something like "I hate HK, fuck them" or "The M&P 2.0 is objectively a better price to value than a P30 or VP9" I'll either sgree or laugh it off
But if you question the accuracy, quality, or reliability of the brand I'll go full sperg ferguson

Every German arms export bureaucrat is Bill Ruger, half the board at HK is also Bill Ruger. Fucktarded German arms law means ANY "military" arm is barred from export. Guns like the VP9 are an exception because they are for sporting allegedly. THIS is why companies like PTR exist to literally produce HK clones off HK parts kits, because the German government has adopted the MP5 so it is barred from export to the US. Same with the MP7, G36, etc. Ofc, being pathetic cucks, the German government has slowed down buying weapons and making HK hemorhage money with retarded projects like the HK433 project, and LEO and mil export sales are way down.

Sig P320s are selling like hotcakes right now.

Congrats, you solidified his 59 series analogy by suggesting that the 320 replaced it like the M&P replaced the 5900

>Based Glock does it again!!
As noted, they just piggybacked on the CBP contract:
soldiersystems.net/2019/04/15/the-cbp-pistol-program-was-close/

>In this phase of testing Glock was assessed just 3% higher than competitor SIG with their P320 family of firearms.

>What finally knocked it out of the park for Glock was that they came in quite a bit cheaper than SIG, $7.5 million less.

>For quite awhile, word on the street was that this was going to be SIG’s win. Based on testing, either offerer’s handguns would have more than done the job, but Glock developed a great strategy and brought home a solid win.

So yeah, price aside the P320 would have actually worked just as well.

>Glock
>No mounted suppressors
Rip Trump's hearing

>just as well
>more money

Yeah. Glock every time.

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>sell cheap to agents of the state
>gouge the fuck out of civilians

Glock lowkey hates the 2nd Amendment, don't they?

From .357 to 9mm? That’s weird, don’t they want to blast the bad guys & save POTUS? Deep state is real wow

Glocknaded hand stump? Lol not bad

Meh, don't forget they save about $130 in taxes on each gun by selling them to the government.

Well said, I’ve noticed this myself, seemed very strange but your explanation makes perfect sense

The assassin will conveniently have a plate carrier.

It's also partially because that's literally the only pistol those people know because they jumped head long into Glock right away. So ignorance combined with defensive attitudes gets you the Glocktard

>being this retarded

so they are changing from .357 sig? does this mean the end of the 357 sig round now?

is that why im seeing the HK USP expert and elite on sale for $849?

Right again, I’ve for sure noticed the firstguns’ choice is nearly always “Uhh Glock I guess”. The hell? When I was deciding, my friend had a super nice CZ, another had an interesting FN five-seven, another a stainless P226... why pick the DMV of pistols when stuff like that is available. I guess Glocktards would naturally be the loudest in those advice threads

It's been well documented.

Weird, I somehow managed to be even dumber and lucked out of becoming a glocktard. I went to the gun store, explained what I wanted, told them I had no idea what I was doing when it came to hand guns but I wanted to be able to conceal it. They showed me a selection of guns that boiled down to the Shield and some Glock, and mentally I went "RAP NIGGAS like Glocks, COOL AMERICAN COWBOYS like Smith & Wesson." So I bought the Shield and have it to this day.

when i bought my first handgun i had already shot a glock and enjoyed it.
so i bought a glock and enjoy it.

you gonna make fun of me?
well im immune to bully because i have a glock and am happy with it. i want a beretta but am in no hurry.

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The Shield is a very good one, people swear by them including a veteran friend who carries it on his waist. I was this close to getting one recently

Is the thing about the secret service using 5.7x28 just a myth then?

Nah, that's totally legitimate and I wish you well user. The Beretta 92 and Px4 are also fine pistols. (I'm an HK fanboy myself though)

I had the choice between a G17 and a P228 in a pawn shop when I was starting out. I got the Sig because it came with better sights and more mags, totally dodged a bullet

No you sound like the normal type of owner. The Glocktard would already be flipping tables by now

jokes on you, i've already dropped my glocktard bait to great avail.
however im not the most successful one itt with it.

usually with people, they either really enjoy shooting glocks or really hate it. i just chalk it up the grip angle.
and that's alright. idc what feds use for their sidearms if it's in 9mm because 9mm is cheap and everywhere already so it won't affect anything.

No, because you're just a guy who has a glock, not a glocktard. Just like how you can have a nice AR and not be an /arg/ faggot.

P228 are cool, I eyeball them from time to time. I like the wide grip and general aesthetics

Yes Beretta 92 is just sexy, I never did shoot one. Still pretty much want one

The Secret Service is broke, they can't even pay their officers.

I remember stories how Hillary was such a cunt to them, they’d fight over who had to take the duty, and they’d request transfers or retire early over it lol.