Ayybraps For Brazil?

really not sure why they would want them, Brazil's terrain is ass for tank engagements, almost the entirety of south america is ass for tanks, seems like they'd do better with IFV's/mobile gun systems like the LAV-150 with the 90mm. lower weight, more compact for the conditions, there is probably a more modern choice but something with that design philosophy would be better for the area.

Brazil wants Abrams, Chile is getting updated Leopard 2s, Colombia wants to buy Merkavas and Peru will likely buy new Gook tanks. It'll be interesting to if Venezuela goes to total shit and if any of these get used against their "new" already obsolete T72s. Sad that the Brazils own tank industry died when fucking Saudis backed out of a deal with Engesa after they'd poured all their company money into developing a competent MBT for them. Fucked up thing was that it actually beat the early Abrams regarding speed, tech and firepower in trials, it was just not as well armored.

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Giat developed the 120mm for this thing and a lot of the Engesa design philosophy and some FCS stuff ended being integrated into Leclerc which was also just starting it's development around the time when Giat was working with Engesa to build these. These were basically early Brazilian Leclercs in effect. Had the same gun and coaxial layout as the Leclerc does and very similar internal design.

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Abrams tanks would be mostly useless for brazil, the country don`t have the infrastructure to move such heavy vehicles around.Also most of our defenses are up north wich make tanks mostly useless because of the rainforest

The United States has been the most right wing global power of the 20th century. You could argue modern Russia has become more right-wing due to the fact it’s effectively a dictatorship, but their history of communism and “anti-imperialism” has made them the darling of the far left in the previous century. The US is also the only global power with any meaningful influence in Brazil, so it makes sense for them to play ball with the Americans.

Well, Bolsonaro seems pretty intent on removing said rainforest, so tanks may end up being useful by the end of it.

3rd worlders will murder each other over a pair of shoes. The only thing they like more than buying nonfunctional shit is stealing it.

Why would Brazil need a tank?

That's a nationa tragedy.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EE-T1_Osório
If only...

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>Brazil produces a superior tank to the Abrams
>gets killed off under political pressure from US
US gives them crappy old, gas-guzzling, unreliable dinosaur tanks as aid.

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Policing, I guess

Brazillian here.
As far as I know. Bolsonaro was offered some M1 tank hulls.
But Brazil would have to pay the whole part of putting them into operation again and transporting them to Brazil.

>using anything other than the braap turbine

You either have fuel or you don't poorfags.

Then you've heard wrong.The tanks are fully operational,we only need to pay for the transport.But we can pay 1.8 mil/un for modernization.
> Osório was beaten by M1A1
> Engesa was shit
You should weep for this one

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>ultra-upgraded Stuart X1As
Excuse me?

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tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/Brazil/Bernardini-X1A.php
Bernardini X1A are Stuarts that were modernized by Brazil to be on par with armoured cars of the 80s, upgraded from the stock it got in the 50s. The current model is actually the X1A2, at which point the Stuart has been upgraded so much it resembles the M51 Shermans historically used by the Israelis in performance, a bit ten tons lighter.

And the most impressive part is that it can directly trace its lineage back to the M1 Combat Car of the 20s, which one part swap at a time, eventually evolved into pic related.

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I don't know if our soil can handle the weight.

>TFW poorer Argies managed to invent and operating much advanced home-grown MBT than richer Brazilian. Proving much corruption between Brazil and Argentinian defense ministry.

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>home-grown
which part ?

The bait, its perfect

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And what do you define as "right wing"? Just curious. After all, you did just implicitly accuse the backbone of NATO and #1 global enemy of communism according to the communists themselves of being pro leftist.

>TAM
>Main Battle Tank
>home grown
>Not just a turret on a Marder hull

God on the agries for actually having equipment custom made for them, with some of their engineers helping no less, but don't pretend that they developed their own MBT on their own when they basically paid Germany to turn an IFV into a modern light tank.

Canada has a shitload of leopard C2's they can buy. Which are basically leopard 1A4's but with better armour, engine, and gun.

They're probably too worn out and old to be of any use, and there's no real reason to invest in a platform that will give you minimal performance over the current Leopards they've got.

I like it

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Ya'll niggas forgetting that Abrams are too heavy for Brazil's infrastructure, plus the fact that half of the country's soild isn't fit for heavy MBT's use.
That's why they're investing on fuckloads of lighter and wheeled APC's/IFV's.

Plus Brazil doesn't have the money to reshape all their bases, doctrine and maintain the turbine of such vehicle.
If they ever buy a newer tank, it would probably be the Leo 2.

>Engesa gets fucked by Saddam
>invest all their money into some tank that wasn't even wanted by the Army
>HURR IT'S AMERICA'S FAULT

Typical third world behaviour, blame America just to shake the guilt of it's own incompetence away.

>maintain the turbine of such vehicle
Turbines aren't complicated

>country who never touched one has the knowledge and money to maintain one

>Brazil produces a superior tank to the Abrams

This myth will persist as long as people have an inferiority complex towards America.

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Uhh...
You know the AGT-1500 is a helicopter engine adapted for tanks right

And Brazil makes their own tanks right

>And Brazil makes their own tanks right

Which....?

I meant to write "helicopter" and I am retarded

Again, which?

Abrams is too heavy and too expensive to operate for Brazil
Potential operators is probably because Brazil joined the "OTAN friends" list

Mostly Eurocopters made under license.

So it ain't their own, but French.