Lmao swords

Mace/heavy blunt form follows a similar philosophy to kicks in hand to hand fighting when the target is missed the ongoing momentum is used to bring the weapon back around for another attack or parry. It is slower than lighter weapons but not by much, physical endurance using the weapon effectively is another story though. Even though these weapons are much lighter than they look it still is tiring to swing one around for 30 mins to a few hours or more.

In a way
Game of throne battle of bastards was interesting bullshittery but when you look at numbers and realize it was only small skirmish when compared to some medieval shit that went down.

>physical endurance using the weapon effectively is another story though.
Dude, if you have hundreds of prisoners lined up for execution just take your time

The real deal are the warhammers.

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Well, I meant small arms, of artillery is going to make a mess of people, just like how a trebuchet can turn people into hamburger meat.

Yeah and odds are 80% of the combatants are armor less peasants with farm tools for weapons. Being in the warrior class back then basically meant if you were getting genetically gifted with a muscular and durable build some lord gave you the training and weapons to cut people down all day. Pretty comfy for shitty old timey life

spears are cool but they ain't no poleaxe

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mace has a few downsides
its a mass weapon, so you need it to go fast to do damage, which usually means a telegraphed attack

its also less balanced, having all its weight at one end, so while it swings really good, its less adept at blocking
it also leads you open to attacks if you miss

its also pretty bulky and cumbersome, which can make carrying it when not in use quite fiddly
and while broken bones are painful and debilitating, medieval medicine could generally heal such injuries very well, whereas deep cuts lead to infection and death or amputation

explosives are just so damn useful

I'm only aware of one example by name, but I'm sure numerous cultures used such weapons. Google what a Naginata looks like. I bet it's similar to what you're envisioning, even though the sword to handle ratio isn't exactly like you said.

Annon have you ever seen what someone looks like after getting blasted by a rifle round? even a 5.56 can really fuck someone up let alone some of the bigger "small arms"

Most probably had at least padded armor and depending on what that was made out of it could be pretty effective against edgy things

Oh, yeah I guess you have a point, i was thinking in terms of like limbs being cut off and shit being smashed in.

For me..... it's the pole axe

If I had suitable armor that covered most of my body.

If not , a shield and one handed weapon would do me

Wicker shields were also common

I guess war ain't really clean, the only difference is that now we crush, mutilate and burn each other from a distance

He need some milk

If you think about it there is no honor in battle.
If you got someones back in melee you stabbed it and if you fell and somehow survived you stabbed balls off from next enemy that stumbled on top of you.
Trench melee seems to have been same shit sometimes as nades just weren't an option because possibility of friendly casualties
I need to grab some milk from store when I go. At one point I drank easily 1l a day but now it is barely 3l a month

Bullets do that too buddy

Yeah but from a distance you don't smell the shit, blood and guts.. Dead people soil themselves

It is told.
I just thought that did medieval people avoid eating in case of gut stab?
I know that people during ww1 and 2 sometimes did that when attacking.

your recovery is still slower. Since you're relying on blunt force and not a bladed edge, you also have to commit more to each swing. a tap with a mace is going to do negligible damage, vs a quick snap cut with a sword, which could sever tendons. can't do pull/push cuts or chops with a mace, only haymakers.

post your full plate.
even if you did have one, you would never have it on in time.

Do not let this thread die

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Here we go. This weapon wins any and every melee encounter. Apart from being a Halberd with range, asthetics and power on it's side, it has two guns mounted on the head. Checkmate.

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Benis :DDD

>Best weapon

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/thread

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Why is nobody mentioning axes?

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Most battles in that era actually had quite low casualty rates. The big ones that go down in common memory are there because of how unusually bloody they were.

Axes are for chopping wood user!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagamaki
The fact that these were rare (and europe never developed a similar thing far as I know) shows they really weren't that good.
Scandinavians had this
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swordstaff
But that's more like a glaive or similar polearm.
Some european greatswords have very long grips, but they have very long blades as well.

Chinks too.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhanmadao

Most likely true.
But medievals knew how to go full khornate when needed

>and europe never developed a similar thing far as I know
There are some hints of similar things here, but not a lot.

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Hey, it's that war scythe from mount&blade!

Artillery no, but bombs in general leave bodies intact more often then you'd think.

>TFW you get hit by bombs that take your clothes leaving your platoon looking like they had huge gay orgy before being clobbered the fuck out.

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all dead shit shits itself
t. hunter/farmer

if there's something in the intestines already that is

For me, it's a refined +10 Lothric Knight Long Spear.

>picks up mace with two hands
>wrist snaps because lanky zoomer
The people that made those maces and used them would not have needed them to beat you to death.

HOW COULD I BE LATE TO A MACE THREAD?!

This is my mace

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You should knurl the grip of it with a lathe for better grip.

That's exactly how you defeat an opponent in full plate. You stab them in the gaps.

Stop repeating this bullshit myth about medieval armies.

War hammer all the way.

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>gunhalberd
spotted the Garlean

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>helmet gets stuck on something and breaks your neck

>Outranges you
>Outpaces you
>Easily parries you
>Destroys you in general

Maces are only good for very specialised situations, namely armoured vs armoured combat. Even then they aren't even the first choice and a sufficiently specialised sword is still probably a better choice.
99% of the time, a sword is the far superior weapon.

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>the ongoing momentum is used to bring the weapon back around for another attack or parry
Funnily enough, that works far better with an actually balanced weapon, such as a sword

if I flip a sword around I have a serviceable mace, if I flip a mace around I have a shittier mace

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>spilling spaghetti

>warhammer but half as complicated

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fuck i love maces so goddamn much

>he thinks a debilitating attack that shatters bones doesn't immediately lead to a killing blow to the skull
i fucking guess

>if I take out my pocket knife I have a serviceable awesome ninja weapon

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That thing's pretty fucking gay man

So is claiming a sword but backwards is functionally equivalent to a mace or morningstar

This is true. They aren't functionally equivalent as the sword is a larger (and thus more powerful) weapon that can also function as a highly agile cut-and-thrust weapon when you need it to.

You’re at the feast when this guy walks up, slaps your maiden’s ass and calls your sword a little bitch weapon, what do you do?

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Make fun of his gay dress, laugh at his puny mace and then stab him in the face, as that visor has big easy to target gaps

If you guys like medieval fights, check out the International Medieval Combat Federation (IMCF). They have annual tournaments, and this year they ended with a battle where all the countries were split into 2 teams and fought 150 vs 150. It's pretty fascinating

>miss
>slow recovery
Is this you?

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Call the Inquisition and accuse him of sodomy.

Why use a fancy "gentleman" weapon when you can kill five armored Spaniards at once with your quarterstaff?

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>I feel like guns made warfare a lot gayer in every way.
FTFY

this

Are warbrands/faussarts like that real? I don't think I've ever seen a picture of one in a museum, and I've looked at hundreds of pictures of medieval weapons in museums because I like to look at shit like that. I've only ever seen them in those pictures which makes me assume they were either really rare or were basically farm tools that weren't preserved because they were cheap or something like that.

>spiked club explicitly designed to punch through armor
vs
>lol it's a sword but backwards haha
Swordfags need to go back to star wars and stay there

I used to be anti mace but they really were one of the best non-pole melee weapons

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>swords
>armored combat
big meme

You don't have a serviceable mace, you have a shitty mace, aka something that's still marginally better than a sword for armored combat.

There were designs of swords made strictly for armored combat, but they were few and far between and a number of them were theoretical only. Swords were not anti-armor weapons and you only see "lol flip it around" in cases like duels where you're wearing armor but forced to use a sword.

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>and europe never developed a similar thing far as I know
the falx was enough of a threat for Rome to hastily make changes to their equipment to deal with them

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>deforms and penetrates armor
Is it the ultimate spear companion?

What game?

Looks like stronghold crusader 2.

Please don't associate all swordfags with retarded longsword HEMAfags who do nothing but watch youtubers and scream about mordhau. They are the redditors of the sword world. Saber, rapier, and even most japanese sword dudes are way less obnoxious than these cookie cutter faggots. Imagine actually thinking a pommel has anywhere near enough blunt force to be worth using.

>not unscrewing your pommel and throwing it at the enemy
This is why we study the blade

Half-sword, parry high, ram a rondel through his fucking armpit into his lung and let him choke to death on his own blood. Maces are a meme weapon.

t. no swords

Interesting, how did the Romans modify their equipment to deal with this scythe-axe?

If your axe is stuck in a roman soldiers shield how are you gonna not lose your weapon while not getting stabbed by him in the face or his friends on either side??

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>t. Seething
How's it feel seeing armor and realizing you have a very expensive and relatively fragile club?

Read about WWI then reassess your statement.

>he thinks battlefield deaths were the most common form of death
the real killer on the battlefield was poor medicine
dying from your wounds was more likely than being finished off on the battlefield

and broken bones could reasonably be healed off the battlefield using the medicine of the time, whereas if a cut became infected you would very likely die or have the limb amputated

Stronkhold Crusader. It and it's predescesor are the best in the series. Some view it as tedious for an rts but it is comfy and u can lose a lot of time in 1 game.

I think you're drawing a false comparison between hema losers and medieval combatants. Longsword sparring is fin in the sense that the goal is just to touch your opponent. It's not meant for field battle the same way that you wouldn't whip out a fencing foil to fend off someone holding a baseball bat. Although I agree that hema youtubers are a particularly annoying bunch

> Swords were not anti-armor weapons

I dunno about that. William the Marshal put a sword tip through the eye hole of the Count of Perch at 70 years old.