Wow guys, who even need's automatic weapons with fire rates like these? Thanks to BBC for doing the research!
bbc.com
I couldn't find/don't know how to do an archival link. The wayback machine doesn't have one that's up to date, because the BBC keeps updating this page over the months.
I would love to see someone get 20 rounds through an LCR in under a minute. I practice with mine all the time, and I sure haven’t been able to.
> semi auto shoots faster than full auto
My sides.
Also how the fuck is an AK and an AR gonna have different rates of fire if they're both semi auto?
The only person who might be able to shoot fast enough for it to even matter would be Uncle Jerry.
so does this mean I can git giggle switch?
One has a coat hanger
>someone can shoot 1200 rounds in a fucking minute
>semi auto
>Auto is somehow less than semi auto
Nigger what
What are these people smoking?
Speed loaders.
I too, enjoy a garage built m231 port firing weapon. BBC research knows their stuff eh
AKfags BTFO once again
Lmao, why do they hate AR15s to such an extreme?
If they modded it to be full auto, it's just an m16 and should have the exact same rate of fire. It's the same fucking guy.
Wtf does "Modified" mean
Also, where the fuck are you going to put 1200 rounds?
If you're using standard mags you should be able to get more out of an AK in theory, because the mag size is bigger, so less mag changes
But there's a reason the M4 switched to 3 round bursts, emptying your magazine in 3 secs like a retard doesn't really help you much in a combat situation.
BBC is propaganda these days. You av a licence for that telli?
But they switched the m4 back to full auto with the m4a1.
Burst is complex, and useless.
Here's an archive link.
archive.fo
Select-fire capabilities in a shoulder-fire rifle are barely used. Look up combat footage from the GWOT, people using rifles are firing semi-automatic, even in close quarters. Also M4A1 ditched the burst for full auto
That shit is pretty faggy.
Full auto is useful. An M4 or AK is not the ideal platform for this but ideally you have one guy with a minimi or RPK with you to provide suppressing fire. That said, it is also useful when busting doors, where you won't be using it for suppressing fire and don't need to worry about heat so much. This is why rifles that will be used in semi auto mode also retain an automatic feature. None of this even matters though because de facto banning full auto for civilian ownership is frankly, an illegal law in the first place.
Jesh. The news literally just makes shit up to get ignorant and scared people to vote accordingly.
>modified semi-auto AR-15 is able to put 1,200 rounds downrange in a fucking minute
>AK can only put 120
Glorious Soviet weapon only need 120 loyal communist bullets. Dirty American Imperialists need 1,200 to get the job done.
1200 RPM AR15
Making up 2% of the population (((they))) make up 98% of the media
#RussianStronk
Should i laugh or should i get mad?
I'm mad btw
>90% of the people voting for political candidates and policies have literally no fucking clue what the fuck they're talking about or who they're voting for
Was democracy a mistake, bros?
Yes, unless we add a minimum IQ to vote
but that will unfairly target specific groups of people
oy vey, intelligence is a social concept
Yiiiiikeeesssss
>unfairly
......are you sure?......
>democracy
government was a mistake. we hindered progress from the very beginning.
You guys need to realize journalists are this incompetent on ALL issues they cover, not just guns.
I think people are gradually awakening to that,
>tfw this ancient image posted by an ancient tripfag is far, far, far too accommodating for modern journalists and anti-gunners
Please, wake me up.
>Slapping front dong and sight to wepon makes it shoot faster
Banning misinformation would put leftists in deep shit but we all know how they started to use such thing.
Bolt weight and travel. Spring size. Blowback vs gas....
Videos online of people racing real full autos with Binary trigger ARs.
That pic says "modified semi auto"
Probably not as far from reality as you think.
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MAybe a bump stock would achieve such a fire rate of 1200, more so than a natural full auto would. The gun is modded after all. Though 1200 rpm seems a tad excessive by itself
Binary trigger is more likely than bumpstock
Did the math and it’s still 647 rounds/minute with binary
What if you did a binary AND a bump stock???
1200 rpm confirmed
>Source BBC research
MY SIDES ARE IN ORBIT
>Was democracy a mistake, bros?
The US isn't a democracy.
It will be when a few big cities in four states run the fucking country like a medieval satrapy.
>AR semi-auto with bumper stocking: 1200
Are they sure they weren't looking at a MG42?
it seriously doesn't fucking matter anymore, you're voting for one change in social policy and a few economic rebalances every 4 years. The parties are so similar that politicians just jump sides if it helps their odds.
This seems like a particularly big problem for the US. You guys don't really have many huge cities like other countries, but a bunch of more moderate sized ones all over. Won't that mean power will be more saturated in smaller areas than other countries?
>semi-auto AR-15 w/ forward grip fires 300 rounds more per minute than full-auto M16
I hate these retards so bad
And that's the reason why America have so many policies that are different from other countries nowadays. American are feared that they could become just like other countries when those large cities continue to grow
What if we spin this as a way to legalize full autos? I mean if a semi fires faster wouldn't a full auto be safer?
>You av a licence for that telli?
If that's where the majority of the people live then that's were the majority of the power should be. If you don't like it then you can go kiss the Queen's ass, because over here it's supposed to be "We the people" and not "The empty acres of land"
Besides the numbers being completely retarded
>implying fire rate = directly increased death toll
And 43% of the billionaires
>No chainsaw bayonet or underslung mare's leg
0/10 would not operate with.
Found where they got their data
Ak has wood so its morenlike grandpas hunting rifle.
AR has scary black aluminum and plastic
I was actually really sad to see my M4 mutilated into F/A. They did it so sloppily
Or loaded onto one of those ready to insert clip? Not sure what they are called. But pretty sure no criminal would have those ready
Full Moon or Half Moon clips is what my old man calls them, but that might be a Fuddism.
Ah yes, at least you would know the name and googling it would yield some results
The only real downsides to the system is that you can't fire .45ACP in a gun that takes them without a clip, though you can still fire .45LC if the cylinder is long enough, and it takes a special tool to remove empty shells without fucking up your clip.
>no criminal would make optimal use of his weapon
I can't wait for the day some czoiboi gets mugged by a wigger in 5.11s whipping his roland special out of an appendix holster
20 rounds a second for ar-15? Did they even fucking bother? A belt fed, bump stock can't do that. An m16 at ~16 rounds a second atleast sounds reasonable compared to the extra 4 a second somehow a civilian gun "does"
the secret is to use carbine gas, with pistol buffer and no bolt weights. hold the gun upside down for most reliable feeding and you can achieve the magic 1200 rpm custom ar15
the ranges that let these people come in to film propaganda should be boycotted
Wow I can't believe semi-automatic guns shoot faster than automatic guns, we really need to ban them.
The article actually drops some decent knowledge. Only 4% of firearms deaths in America come from rifles.
Why does the BBC have such a hard on for American Gun Policy? They just can't shut the fuck up about it, and it literally has no effect on them. Like... you're in England.
>auto rim
non_stop_warfare_AR15.bbc
Does that stop Americans to give their opinions on everything non American related?
Everyone has their opinions, especially on Jow Forums. But no news outlet rags on another country's domestic policy as the BBC does with American gun control
>BBC is seething on anything related to Americans/French
i mean, yeah, that's what they do, i was just trying to point out that we all have those kind of liberal in the west spewing some mad shit about dakkagat yet they are the one that vote the laws to regulate said dakkagat
I remember that news story claiming the guy shooting it was some vietnam veteran commando or some shit. Seeing him hold his gun like some basedboy was a sight to see.
He is (or was) a fucking general
youtu.be
Has it been that long since the chainsaw bayonet?
Sounds about right.
Isn't 1,200 RPM the cyclic rate on a full auto MAC10? And that's not even close to an LCR. The more I look the worse it gets. Holy shit, Bongistan is on another level entirely.
M4 shoot faster than M16.
Carbine gas more oomf than rifle. Things move quicker, faster bullet come out bullet hole.
Technically a full auto M4 will be faster than an auto 16.
Except our system was designed specifically so that both rural and urban areas were free to pursue their own interests and preserve their rights without having to worry about people on the other side of the country dictating how to live their lives and what rights they are allowed to keep.
City faggots that can't into sweat, blood, hunt, physical ex, not sucking a,other man dick
>and not "The empty acres of land"
And can't into farming either, how the fuck did you lived that long?
Are apparently going to dicate the way we countryfags are going to live, we have the same fucking shiny retards in France, in Paris, being all degenerates anytime they can throwing shit at me for keeping loaded weapons around my house/farm, i guess if Jamal or that negro bear decide i'm next on the menu i will patiently wait for the 20 minutes away in-the-middle-of-nowhere cops to save me, meanwhile i guess i will entertain my diverse guest with a pack of uno and some gatorade because some fancy cocksucker would have their feelings hurt?
You're the reason why i load copper plated shot in my Benelli.
wouldn't a better country benefit everyone?
>Semi-automatic fire 1,200 rpm
>Fully-automatic fire 950 rpm
Proof that full auto is safer than semi auto. LEGALIZE NOW
One is fully semi-automatic and the other one isn't.
That’s what I said when I was suggesting getting rid of all the brown people.
I really have to wonder how the lie that the US is a Democracy has managed to spread the way it has. Does any school teach basic civics anymore?
>Did the math and it’s still 647 rounds/minute with binary
>What if you did a binary AND a bump stock???
1200 rpm confirmed
1000 .223 rounds weight 28lbs , you can't even carry 40 loaded 30 round magazines so that up to 1200 number is extremely misleading. The average soccer mom sees this and now thinks that you can fire 6000 rounds in 5 minutes
also, last time I took my binary AR out and dumped 8 30 round mags through it in a row, my finger got so tired I had trouble working the mag release....
Fingerlet.
to be fair, I also had my P90 and that was not the first set of mags, just the only time I did all 8 of my AR mags.
This is what I took that day, was a good day at the shooting pit.
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Bro that’s a super POG.
Michael Crichton had it right.
"Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect works as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward-reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.
In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story-and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read with renewed interest as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about far-off Palestine than it was about the story you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.
That is the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect."
I like that little wheelgun
Thanks, it's a ww2 issue colt commando.
This is one of the most strikingly accurate quotes I've read in a long time. It almost gets down into the heart of neuroticism.
Cute
I've got a Smith and Wesson model 13-3 with a 4in barrel myself.
I'll post it in the wheelgun general at some point.