>fuck you jannies this is as Jow Forums as Jow Forums gets
Would a complete confiscation of semi rifles even be legal in the US? Could the government also completely freeze the future sale of semi rifles?
To me it seems as though these would surely be breaking some fundamental laws, however it’s 2015+4 so nothing surprises me.
>also infographic thread.
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California is going to try very shortly
A federal judge just ruled that semis aren't protected by the 2nd amendment
Seems like an academic distinction, as SCOTUS recently ruled that 2A applies to any weapons in "common usage" by civilians. Go to pretty much any range in the country and try to make an argument that semi-automatic weapons aren't in common use.
oh wow is this why I've always had so much trouble hitting the 200 yard target but not 300
they've done gayer shit.
It's coming. I know it, you know it, everybody knows it. The legality is merely a hurdle some kike will have to weasel their way around.
What they can't accomplish through legislation they will do through economics or culture. They'll stop processing certain transactions, gun enthusiasts will be high risk highers, they'll think up some fag got as flag and hang it up every march.
The same exact shit they've done with the 1st ammendment. "It only protects you from the government durrr"
Get your ARs while you can. Get your ammo while you can. At best we have until the next liberal president and halfway competitive senate. And at the rate republicans are bending over to take the grabber cock the left won't even need a Senate majority.
Very likely we are going to see intense social pressure, ie massive nonstop demoralization shilling campaigns, than an actual outright gun grab. The standard "death of a thousand cuts" strategy is still in effect, you are just seeing an escalation at the moment. Wouldn't surprised me if hollyjew actually does prohibit guns from movies, and instead promote gun shaming trends as a social moral peragative to guilt, mock, and delegitimize gun ownership. However, once this has become culturally engrained it wouldn't surprise me if they did sweep in some bans.
Surely this will get overturned
There won't be an executive order by king obama II that calls you out to civil war, it will be a slow erosion. See california compliant ARs for example.
Even if it was legal, it would be impossible to enforce without incurring insane costs on the logistics and security needed for such an operation, and we haven't even talked about the civil unrest that would result from this.
Gun culture is too engrained into americans, and the sheer number of guns out there makes it too goddamn expensive to take all of them.
Not OP but I’m concerned about the stopping of selling them because I’m sitting on like $60k of guns that I’ve always said I will sell if I become completely destitute.
>Would a complete confiscation of semi rifles even be legal in the US?
It would be legal if the California state assembly passed a bill and the governor signed it. But it wouldn't make it constitutional. Such a law would violate the spirit of the 2nd Amendment, that is: giving citizens parity with government forces, adequate to resist tyranny. In the 18th century that meant muskets. Today it means ARs.
*the letter and the spirit of the 2A
Simple answer, no. Unconstitutional is always illegal. But they're not going to care behind enemy lines. Kinda hoping they try it so they get their asses shot off before they can even hit the first hundred houses.
In their eyes, and many judges eyes, it still means muskets.
I'm cool to mount a fancy swivel gun to my car right?
If there's no wind, how much windage am I going to have to compensate for with 55gr 5.56mm at 500m because of the bullet's spin slowing down?
Sounds legal. You would still be able to own guns. Just not the snowflake ones
True zero MPH sidewind? None.
Then they don't understand the 2A or why it was written and should go back to school.
maybe, scotus isn't very reliable on the 2nd
Thanks. But I guess as light a round as 55gr 5.56 is pretty susceptible to the wind at that range?
>ban bump stocks
>no more mass shooting with bump stocks
Funny how that works
CNN pls go
Yeah, the poor BC and light weight make 5.56 pretty bad at bucking wind. Grab Strelok on your phone and look up the BC of the round you're shooting. Plug in the data and have fun playing with wind and distance
>Grab Strelok on your phone
Coolio! Thanks.
>ban murder
>people will stop being killed
You know, I'd like to point out how strange and unusual it is bumpstocks or bumpfire has never been used at all until Vegas, and then completely swept under the rug and never used again after the fact. Despite how fucking easy it is to do.
If you're going to say infothread you ought to contribute more than the single op image.
nice run maiq, i'd been wondering where arg got all their opinions
Why stop there?
No, it would be in complete violation of the Constitution, of course that's never stopped gungrabbers from passing anti-gun legislation in the past. Remember, these are the same people trying to obstruct POTUS from making decisions about the US border even though it is explicit that POTUS has absolute authority over border security, the same people who think that banning all fossil fuels is a workable idea. They don't give much of a shit about legality or practicality except when such things get in the way of their pathological motivation to self destruct.
They could just pull the same shit they just pulled on bumpstocks.
Completely impractical and not enough money to confiscate. Gun records are so poor due to the failure of the BATF to remain funded under GOP leadership. Pure waste of time to confiscate and people would refuse. I would refuse and I support any reasonable effort to reign in gun violence. Do not let these fears cloud your judgment or undermine your belief in the sanctity of human life. Some change is necessary, some change is good. Some change will actually preserve the 2nd amendment.
Banks will stop processing transactions and we'll just have to go the way of marijuana dispensers and be 100% cash based.
I am a FFL holder (small pawn shop) and between the fact that I am a "risky business" due to pawns and selling guns I do not take cards on anything over $100. They charge me 5% to process shit.
that's an explicit violation of Heller
there has never been a single "mass shooting' with a bump stock. The feds admitted that Paddock never used one
Source?
All firearm restrictions are a janga set, each restriction is built on thinner and thinner arguments.
Each opinion carefully worded.
Once you open that up to any bans or outlaw popular arms, it all falls down.
They are running out of room to restrict without destroying the whole arguments and opinions they are all based on.
Its all heresy, unlawful and the text of the constitution is plain for any to read.
Yet these old boomers allow it, because for the most part these restrictions don't effect them.
Once you start passing restrictions that effect the larger taxpaying and voting boomers. You will see such a tantrum you would think their dippers caught fire.
Don't kid yourself, they know exactly what its for and thats why they're destroying it.
>Would a complete confiscation of semi rifles even be legal in the US?
No
>Could the government also completely freeze the future sale of semi rifles?
For now, state governments can, until we have some more SCOTUS rulings, but the Fed cannot.
Unless you provided a source on this, gonna call BS. Not sure how he could fire as fast as he did without one, unless he used full auto.
No. The government can posture all they want, but it's just for show. They dont want to make gun owner angry, they're afraid, and they dont want to make a black market with wealthy cartels so they have an opposition with influence.
>concerned about the stopping of selling them
>I’m sitting on like $60k of guns
They stop selling them, you'll be sitting on a few million worth of guns
>Would a complete confiscation of semi rifles even be legal in the US?
They don't care about the law. If they need to justify themselves, they'll just use some jewish wordplay.
A 36 yard zero actually has a tighter spread than any of the ones in your infographic OP, there's a good YouTube video where a SEAL explains it. And not the feds, states theoretically could if they get cucked hard enough.
If they stop selling semi-auto rifles, the ones you have will skyrocket in value. Now you may have to do some face to face deals but you're 60k of guns would probably become (just a guess based on other panics I've seen) about 200k, maybe more depending on what you have. Now I don't want that to happen but I'm just saying, your firearms are not gonna go down in value if they tighten restrictions.
at that point you will have to break the laws to sell them though. all these laws ever do is create a new black market for people willing to skirt the laws for profit.
All prohibition laws, whether they relate to guns or vices, are pro-crime.
That's true. But ARs 'should' already be banned in commiefornia. The fact gun makers keep skirting around the law shows their persistence. I guess it depends on how you look at it.
Better to just eject Commiefornia from the union.
Don't forget to liberate Jefferson first.
>Would a complete confiscation of semi rifles even be legal in the US?
No
>Could the government also completely freeze the future sale of semi rifles?
Yes, the only thing that preserves the integrity of popular sovereignty and the Constitution is if the people enforce it.
This. Boogaloo or authoritarianism is coming soon. The only alternative is if twitter and the media tone down the rhetoric but we all know that isn't happening. Instead we get blue check marks openly calling for genocide after antifa shoots Dayton up.
>legal
no
>feasible
no
>this is a Jow Forums thread damnit
no
my man
3-D printing has already taken magazines away from gungrabbers, google "Ivan the Troll"
Lowers can be made from 0% lowers, yes I mean 0%, just do some studying on the matter. Otherwise buy roughly 20 lower receivers, some for you and your son/daughter, some for a freind...
>>this is a Jow Forums thread damnit
>>no
leave Jow Forums and never return faggot
Not much wrong with that. Not many criminals are dumb enough to rob a gun store
Out dated there's no fully semi automatic
blease post more infographics blease
How long before 80% lowers are banned.
do you think the communists running cali give a fuck what right or ruling they violate?
fuck off, it's my goddamn cake
there needs to be consequences for activist judges
it's called having the supreme court overturn their decision
but it doesn't prevent them from subverting the constitution again next time
It should be public hanging for conspiracy to subvert the law
Never going to happen. Guns in movies are too profitable. Same with video games. Gen z will save us.
I was thinking more along the lines of uncle ted.
nothing but supreme court precedent, and if they ignore supreme court precedent it just bumps up again and gets struck down again. maybe the electorate could, but the electorate in commiefornia or new jork constantly complain about not being able to vote people out and get their rights back but get confused when the "blue dog" or RINO they vote in their place fucks them over without critically thinking about WHY that person fucked them over.
with the prevalence of severe anxiety and social disorders in the older children of millennials and the latest children of the youngest boomers? I seriously doubt it. there is a severe lack of self and social awareness and neither of those generations are equipped to instill it.
> tfw gen z
It's true - we're based, for the most part. Overexposure to this shit builds apathy and desensitization. Also we're probably the most redpilled due to the Internet. The only thing is the demographics won't support us in the future.
The lads doing Fortnite dances are literally the last, best hope for this county right now.
[Remember to default dance on the corpses of your enemies. Also rep the merch]
>despite the empirical evidence there are absolute shitters that will zero their shit at something other than 300yds
or we could steal a page from their indoctrination playbook and field history / civics teachers that drop things like
>there's no proof of class theory, how could you have a revolution and run a society based around an idea that has no proof and requires 100% faith?
>there's discrimination sure, but there's a more common denominator of fatherlessness and culture of irresponsibility. find noble role models and follow them, but not uncritically.
>language changes, "well regulated militia" in the original context meant a broad citizenry that was familiar with the modern firearms of the time to shorten the necessary training period in case a large portion of the population needed to be mobilized to fight off sudden skilled or numerous threats from within or from abroad
>people in positions of power have done some messed up things. in the US and outside of it. respect them people in power, but by no means does that mean you should fear them.
plus, spreading ideas that way doesn't kill your movement in its infancy. over time enough of those kids will grow to vote out the old socialistas