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>§ 95.591 Sales of FRS combination radios prohibited.

>Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall sell or offer for sale hand-held portable radio equipment capable of operating under this subpart (FRS) and under any other licensed or licensed-by-rule radio services in this chapter (devices may be authorized under this subpart with part 15 unlicensed equipment authorizations).

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readymaderesources.com/product/waterproof-ptt-cable-for-baofeng-for-comtac-ii-noise-reduction-headset-ptt-with-tactical-headphones/
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cupano.com/2018/04/23/digital-modes-with-vhfuhf_1/
youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1KAjn5rGhizrj2pYcQ-b3Ufcq53nZ7dj
kg6hqd.us/how-to-make-the-hqd-speaker-wire-antenna/
instructables.com/id/How-to-program-a-Yaesu-VX6-ham-radio/
survivalblog.com/baofeng-sales-ban-countdown-continues/
xtsradio.com/shop?olsPage=products/motorola-xts5000-vhf-smartzone-p25-digital-radio-police-fire-ems-h18kef9pw6an
survivalmonkey.com/threads/communications-white-paper-monkeynet-is-here.30675/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad
ebay.com/itm/Motorola-XTS5000-800mhz-Model-3-With-FPP-And-Encryption-Excellent-Flashcode/283560443928?_trkparms=aid=1110001&algo=SPLICE.SIM&ao=1&asc=20190717082801&meid=0de4a7549f164db4b4cc5f3bc2258407&pid=100889&rk=2&rkt=12&sd=273949555923&itm=283560443928&pg=2349624&_trksid=p2349624.c100889.m5204
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ebay.com/itm/254271183975?ViewItem=&item=254271183975
ebay.com/itm/273939728701
radiofreeq.wordpress.com/2013/11/05/program-your-vhf-uhf-transceivers-for-disaster-preparedness-with-frs-gmrs-pmr-murs-business-weather-marine-ham-channel-frequencies/
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Technology belongs on Jow Forums.

It might be fair to look at these digital modes(DMR, D-Star, System Fusion) as just another manifestation of propagation.

>Line-Of-Sight
>Groundwave
>Skywave
>Satellite
>Internet
>Earth-Moon-Earth
>Meteor Scatter

For newfag radio dummy anons, Variable is referring to internet linking. This is the process by which a repeater, and/or hotspot acts as a node or internet gateway. Your radio signal is received by the repeater, piped through the internet, and comes out somewhere in Yokosuka, even though you’re in Kenosha, WI.

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Radios have killed more people than guns on the modern battlefield.

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>ailunce hd1

Looks like a solid choice for dual band dmr ht for a noob. A poster said it has terrible reception in the previous thread? Is this a fact, or is that user referring to an issue that can be corrected/mininized with an aftermarket antenna?

It’s more a function of the radio’s receiver. Direct conversion receivers generally speaking, are cheaper, and not as good at rejecting unwanted signals as a superheterodyne receiver. Most of the cheaper, sub-$100USD Chinese radios are going to have a direct conversion receiver. That being said, it comes with the territory, when dealing with any radio you have to compromise somewhere. The Ailunce, for all intents, appear to be good radios for the money.

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Suck a dick. I’ll take my bomb proof Yaesu FT-60r with me everywhere. It’s never failed and it’s the bast radio for people getting into HAM.

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The exemptions to this new law include lots and lots of hand-helds, including the ubiquitous uv-5r

I still have my mbitr lapel mic and thales folding antenna from Afghanistan
Can I get adapters to use them on my UV-82HP?

Yes. You’d need a TNC female to SMA female adapter for the antenna. The trucker mic adapter is available:

rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/170926747896

Thanks fren
Here’s a nice attac kat for u

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What's the cheapest radio that can be encrypted?

I'll accept that premise, but only if you post pics of TACP death dealin

I grant wishes.

Retevis RT84.

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alright /krg/, I read through the last thread and I want to be told what to buy. I'm looking for at least 4 radios that I can use to communicate for up to a mile away that are light and will work with my peltor comtac 3's so I can use my same setup I use for the Army. I've been looking at that 5 pack of uv5rs with the ear pieces for like 100 bucks but I don't know shit about comms past the issued stuff. What should I set my boogaloo squad up with?

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Here’s a 2 pack of UV82HP’s + lapel mics + programming cable for $60
Just get 2 of these.
The UV5’s look to “toy-ish”
UV82’s look professional
amazon.com/dp/B07TSBDLQ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_V-3sDbA8FP082

is there a comtac adapter out there for these?

Retevis RT84 and a 4-pack of Retevis RT22’s.

readymaderesources.com/product/waterproof-ptt-cable-for-baofeng-for-comtac-ii-noise-reduction-headset-ptt-with-tactical-headphones/

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.nobody with xts5000 or Johnson ascend 5100 and encryption boards
dislike

just bought a baofeng uv-5r, off amazon.com, any chance the CBSA might try and take it when in arrives? ( I can't find any for sale in Canada)

How 2 learn magic phone

Got my Technician this year and have done nothing with it, what's a good starter kit to have, and any good guides?

I bought a baochang for the hell of it but I also bought an Astro Saber III VHF off the bay. Have I dun goof’d??

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Hope you have a 25 year old computer and the software to program it.

All I need is a computer with windows XP, the RIB, and cable. But it’s easier just pay some guy $30 to do it for me.

I still have an old Gateway windows 98 laptop running, stripped down with an new HD just with DOS to keep my small fleet of early 90's Moto radios going. As long as you're capable with programming them, the ASTRO models can do a lot.

Learn one time pad and monkeynet and every radio is encrypted.

This. 386 Masterrace Checking In.

Not him but I'm interested and a complete novice

Would you give me a quick rundown on these?

Old-school form of Cryptography. Basically using a 10x10 grid to obfuscate the contents of a message by using an X and Y coordinate on the grid to send information.

>”Echo 1 this is Red Viper 6, Actual, over.”
>”Message AS FOLLOWS”
>”07,62,49,71,84,22”
>”Red Viper 6, Actual Out.”

OOOHHHHHHH! Derp

I did a quick DDG search and was unable to put two and two together about how it worked with radios, damn im retarded

The side benefit to a BREVMAT is that it shortens transmit time, mitigating some of the threat of direction finding. If you combine a BREVMAT with a digital mode, your transmit times will be ridiculously short. Team a BREVMAT up with a digital mode, and a Yagi, and you’ve just achieved LPI/LPD.

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But how do I use digital with my Comtacs?

Digital is a mode of operation. You won’t need ears on for doing a digital burst. The radio will be connected to some sort of mobile device, like a tablet or laptop, or, if it’s a digital radio, it will have a means for generating a text message natively. Contrary to popular opinion, even Cheap BoomChang radios can be connected to a PC.

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Are there any decent commercial beam antennas for V/U?

Mounted base station or something more portable?

Arrow has a 2m/440 Yagi designed to be broken down and used handheld for satellite work. For portable ground based use it could be used at elevation or on a short mast you could rotate by hand to point.

Roger that. Yeah, ideally I would like
Something more compact, but that’ll work. Thanks fren

No he doesnt i dl DosBox to make Keys and my radio's version of Astro 25

We've used this with laptops to send/receive text reports via HT during public service events on a separate freq from what we were using for voice traffic.

Solid. I love some NBEMS.

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Yup, that was pretty much it - except I was using my Kenwood TH-D72A with it's built-in TNC and didn't have to use an external sound card like that pic.
Other folks were using those however.

is there a guide for this kind of stuff? text over UHF or VHF.

amazon.com/Get-Air-Digital-ARRL-Inc-ebook/dp/B07C47H5X1/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3PFQLR31JJ14A&keywords=arrl digital mode&qid=1565302437&s=gateway&sprefix=arrl digi,aps,175&sr=8-1

This focuses on HF bands, but operating on VHF/UHF handhelds is the same principle. So long as you have a sound card interface like the signal link and the appropriate cable to connect it to your radio.

Also found this:

cupano.com/2018/04/23/digital-modes-with-vhfuhf_1/

cupano.com/2018/04/23/digital-modes-with-vhfuhf_1/

Any digital mode will suffice.

>get radio
>connect to computer via USB soundcard interface, natively if Radio supports it, or through a USB Signalink
>fire up digital mode software of choice
>send texts, HTML forms, images via SSTV, etc.

Basically, the software and computer act as the modem, and the radio acts as the cable between your house and user’s house.

If you really want your mind blown, you can also send e-mail over Ham Radio.

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Someone make a pastebin. This shit is definitely important enough for not only a general thread, but also a pastebin

Aw shit, exactly what I was looking for. I'm doing some cursory research on some amateur radio, and I have a friend selling some unused VHF Motorola XTS 5000 radios because the fire dept got some new ones. It looks like a cool radio, but it seems bad for a beginner. Does anyone have experience with these guys? I understand that you need a Motorola account and have to buy their software. Is this OK for amateurs, or are they only supposed to be programmed for departments?

I bought the 8w baofeng, a programming cable, and a pouch. So... what do I do now? Software for programming, what I should actually be programming into it for general utility? Also none of my friends want to buy a ccr and larp with me so how do I get practice? I kind of feel dumb for buying this now because I'm pretty overwhelmed

OP/Fag/Breadbaker here. Recommend me a good pastebin to use. I used to use ghostbin before it got shoah’d.

The XTS-5000s are great radios. Programming can be a challenge without access to the CPS (Customer Programming Software).

Go to repeaterbook and radioreference and find all the amateur/commercial/public safety frequencies in use in your area. Get your license and once your buddies see what you can do, they’ll want in on that shit. A buddy and me got ours in 2014, and then ALL our buddies went out and got licensed after they saw our l33t tRiCks.

Hoshnasi on YT has an entire series dedicated to beginner radio. It’s a great resource if you’re just getting into this.

youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1KAjn5rGhizrj2pYcQ-b3Ufcq53nZ7dj

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What will this law change for Joe Sixpack? No more cheap Baofengs?

My Yaesu VX-6 is driving me nuts. I don’t know how to program frequencies in it - the manual doesn’t make a lot of sense. Does anyone have a dumbed down manual they used to program this radio?

Passed my tech exam, got a 33/35. Attempted the General but only got 20 right ha. Not bad for zero studying on those questions. Now I just want a max power HF CW setup so I can learn the code and make contacts globally. Anyone have recommendations on cheap but quality antenna/tx/key?

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Congrats Hamanon.

For a cheap antenna:

kg6hqd.us/how-to-make-the-hqd-speaker-wire-antenna/

Front-Panel Programming the VX-6R is kind of a bitch. Hope this helps:

instructables.com/id/How-to-program-a-Yaesu-VX6-ham-radio/

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survivalblog.com/baofeng-sales-ban-countdown-continues/

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I might get a Baochang DM-1701
Any1 have this DMR radio?

>Programming can be a challenge without access to the CPS (Customer Programming Software)
So I take it this is proprietary software FROM Motorola? Google doesn't hit on a ton of stuff, but it looks like I can make a Motorola account and buy/subscribe? Will the customer service reps not want to help an amateur, in lieu of a professional with a department?

They will give you no breaks. I would look into a pirate copy of the CPS, if you can find one. Some eBay sellers offer programming services, for reasonable prices, which is another option. They’re fantastic radios, but there’s some hurdles to overcome with pressing any Land Mobile Radios into ham service.

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I think I could work with that. So as a total amateur who found a radio that I like, I pretty much just need to
>get the radio
>get programming software
>program in frequencies
Right? As a mook with no license, I'll stick to amateur frequencies, I've gathered. What would those be? Just anything that looks interesting, and is available to me before I'm licensed?

If you’re a

>nolicense

MURS frequencies are the only thing available for you to use on VHF.

I know, with GMRS radios being banned I figure now is a good time to learn. In the meantime between getting my radio and getting my license though, I imagine I'd just do a lot of learning with the CPS software. Found it on a torrent but there's like 20 different Motorola softwares, so I grabbed all 10 gigs. Will it be labeled obviously or no?

xtsradio.com/shop?olsPage=products/motorola-xts5000-vhf-smartzone-p25-digital-radio-police-fire-ems-h18kef9pw6an

So assume this is something I was looking at - this is programmed 100% by the CPS, if I'm interpreting its Flash correctly? There is NO FPP on this radio? Or it's a given, and they don't mention it?

These guys made monkeynet:
>survivalmonkey.com/threads/communications-white-paper-monkeynet-is-here.30675/
OTP is old school:
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad
Your random number generator can literally be gaming dice. There is a little labor involved but OTP is fully secure provided the pads are kept secured.

what are some other frs/gmrs radios that are not baofags?

Baofeng's are not actually FRS/GMRS radios and are in fact illegal to use on those frequencies, but can be used as such as long as you keep em on low power and don't do anything to attract extra attention to yourself, anybody listening won't be able to tell the difference.

To answer your question, basically any radio you can find in the camping section of Target/Walmart/etc.

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You faggots are getting way too elaborate. Whats the best one for a newfag before September rolls around, or whats close to what the spooks use

Got an extra uv5r because it was 20 bux on ebay.

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Anything dual-band that can TX/RX on 136-170/380-520.

Motorola Astro25 Portable CPS

No FPP. FPP VHF XTS-5000s are pretty rare, and were only common with Glowniggers.

Motorola Astro25 Portable CPS

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That’s great thank you
This is also great.

I’m sure YouTube will be an invaluable resource but as long as I have humans to ask, will this antenna work on ft-60? And is there a way to key CW on the yaesu or do i need a trad TX (Non-handheld)?

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>FPP VHF XTS-5000s are pretty rare
Ah I see. Just from googling the term "FPP XTS5000" it looks like some amateurs at some point had a few XTS 5000s with FPP, depending on which flashcode was loaded? Or something. But this was info from posts that are like 10 years old now. Is it not as simple as buying an XTS 5000 and asking the seller to load in a flashcode with the appropriate features? Or there's more to it? Seems like a useful feature ond would one especially if you're traveling, hiking, camping, etc.

ebay.com/itm/Motorola-XTS5000-800mhz-Model-3-With-FPP-And-Encryption-Excellent-Flashcode/283560443928?_trkparms=aid=1110001&algo=SPLICE.SIM&ao=1&asc=20190717082801&meid=0de4a7549f164db4b4cc5f3bc2258407&pid=100889&rk=2&rkt=12&sd=273949555923&itm=283560443928&pg=2349624&_trksid=p2349624.c100889.m5204

Sorry for a double reply, but just to confirm, sellers with listings like this are misinformed, correct? I assume so, since decoding this flashcode didn't bring back the relevant information (Q52/Q53).

The same principles apply, yes. You would just need to cut the antenna to the length of the band you’re working on. The formula is 468 divided by the frequency in megahertz = Length of Antenna. So, for instance, for a 144MHz Antenna you would have a 3.25’ Antenna.

So, with professional/commercial (Land Mobile) radios, they’re typically only programmed by the licensed radio tech supporting that agency. Because the end-users are unlicensed, they’re operating under that agency’s blanket license; however, they are not authorized, under law, to modify the radio’s operation via FPP. Because of this, Land Mobile radios are typically configured so the end-users are locked out of a lot of features, and the radios are only edited by the licensed tech on-staff or a contractor. Any changes that need to take place, are configured by that technician. What happens is an unlock code *can* be pushed to the radio via the programming software to allow it to open up for Front-Panel Programming, analog operation, etc. Once that occurs, the CPS isn’t required to modify settings and functions within the radio.

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Gotcha, so it might not be a fruitless endeavor to check out some listings that mention they've gone ahead and pushed the proper codes to the radio. It looks cheap enough so I might go ahead and grab one or two of these guys, labeled appropriately, and play around a bit before getting licensed before September.

Beofengs are notoriously hard to program. The best choices to get started would be:
Yaesu FT-60r
Kenwood TH D72A
Wouxun kg uv8d

so i found the NOAA freq for the area I'm in, and that's cool, but that seems to be about it. i have the tech license so i guess i could transmit on the F8HP, but what's the point? do i gotta find someone to talk to to start having fun? guess i should buy a spare radio, and find a friend...

Dude. Go to www.repeaterbook.com, find your local repeaters and start throwing your call out there.

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tried that, but I didn't get a whole lot back

>The UV5’s look to “toy-ish”

they do, but i'v used mine quite well for larpsoft

If you’re receiving a courtesy tone from the repeater when you’re throwing your call out there, it means you’re getting through. If you’re getting through, monitor for activity and jump in when you hear some action.

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What's the number one HT for a newbie? Or should I go for a mobile radio instead?

Yaesu FT3DR. Icom ID-51A.

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I was searching the name of the radio in your picture while I was searching for the ones you mentioned, and hit on these. Are they worth it, or is it more "military grade" stuff?

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>depends

You’d be hard pressed to find a more ruggedized radio short of the black market, and several thousand dollars. In terms of whiz-Bang features, it’s absent those, but what it does have is native integration with any and all .mil hardware, including antennas, mics, headsets, PTTs, and batteries.

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What you're looking for is the copies made by TRI and TCA, both Chinese companies.

They are very good copies, tough, rugged, water, mud, dust proof and no will use all the .mill accessory natively.

tacticalgeartrade.com/tri-an-prc-152-aluminum-walkie-talkie-multiband-5w-10w-ipx-7-metal-prc-152.html

That model above will do:
1W power saving mode

5W person radio

10W team radio (need use 12.6v battery)

VHF band (receive / transmit): 136-174MHZ
UHF band (receive / transmit): 400-470MHZ
FM radio (receiver): 87-108MHz
and more.

heck, they even have a bitchen copy of the PRC117G.

tacticalgeartrade.com/tri-instrument-prc-117g-versatile-two-stage-fm-radio.html

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Looks pretty cool. Are the Chinese copies programmable via CHIRP or anything similar?

If anyone buys a Yaesu buy a MARS unlocked one from eBay so you can transmit on FRS frequencies as well.

Not sure if they're chip programmable. E-bay does sell programming cables from TCA, not sure if it'll work with the TCI models.


ebay.com/itm/254271183975?ViewItem=&item=254271183975
I just ordered the radio in my link, post above. I'll get a E-bay cable in a few more weeks and see if it works with chirp. I do hope so.

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What is this kind of antenna called? Aren't there versions meant for portable radios?

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Please report back. I know that on the TRI radios the data port on the side isn’t just for looks.

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That's my one qualifier for new HTs. I just put a few channels into a new Baofeng via FPP and it's such a pain. I can add 100 relevant channels in about 10 minutes via CHIRP, wish it were standard.

Correct, I have seen a remote PTT adapter for the TRI model on E-bay and other web stores.
I have no use for that, just gonna get the regular PTT thingy that most people use.

ebay.com/itm/273939728701


There are other companies online that make the connectors for the side connector that just terminate into open wires, for you to make your own stuff. That's a bit above my paygrade. I'll just wait for more goodies to come out.

And, yes, I'll report back if the TCA programming cable works on a TRI radio and CHIRP.

I chose the TRI because it'll do 10w and recieve on civilian aircraft AM as well. I really wanted the TRI AN/PRC-152H. It'll also send/receive on 25-30mhz as well(C.B. Radio), but $200.00 more for a weak C.B. as well, I had to pass.

Also wanted the fake GPS back shell, had plans for my own altitude/GPS homebrew. Just can't find anyone doing those anymore.

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Holy shit how do I into radios?

Watch lots of YouTube videos then buy an easy to program a mature HAM radio like a Yaesu or Kenwood

My understanding is that the TRI model is not currently computer programmable. This feature, along with the mysterious 3 band model with 10 meter capability are in the "coming-soon" limbo from TRI for a while now.

The TCA one has a programming cable and software available for it, but it does not work with CHIRP.

Any channels you'd recommend? Thanks

>And, yes, I'll report back if the TCA programming cable works on a TRI radio and CHIRP.
>I chose the TRI because it'll do 10w and recieve on civilian aircraft AM as well. I really wanted the TRI AN/PRC-152H. It'll also send/receive on 25-30mhz as well(C.B. Radio), but $200.00 more for a weak C.B. as well, I had to pass.

I've never seen or heard of someone with on of the TRI 152 models that do the 10 meter band, it seems to be vaporware. Even if it did, if it does that band in FM modulation, that's not the same as the CB band in the US, which is AM modulated. Basically, 10M on FM would be limited to very small usage in the US, some hams use the top part of the 10M band for FM voice on simplex and repeaters, but they are few and far between.

And the TCA programming cable and software do not work with the TRI models.

Check the SWR of your set up and pick whatever you are the lowest at

Easiest way, as someone who just got over the mountain of info. Organized by order of how you should do stuff
>google and get your tech license
Insulates you against people who will refuse to help someone breaking a law
>buy a Baofeng, either UV5R (although I recommend the F8HP, identical but stronger and newer) or UV82-HP (identical to F8HP but might look cooler to you)
MAKE SURE you get the programming cable with your order
>while order is shipping: download CHIRP
Google can help you with this, it programs your new radio
>go here and copy stuff:
radiofreeq.wordpress.com/2013/11/05/program-your-vhf-uhf-transceivers-for-disaster-preparedness-with-frs-gmrs-pmr-murs-business-weather-marine-ham-channel-frequencies/
I included the relevant info in their infograph, but go here, copy the table (DL link is broke), make an excel spreadsheet, save as [.csv], and now it'll work in CHIRP
>hook radio to computer, open chirp, follow on screen prompts, load your [.csv] file into CHIRP, and onto your radio
There's a lot to unpack in that last step but if you've ever modded a game you'll get it. There's also Youtube.
>what this gets you:
A handheld radio that can go up to 7w (don't exceed 5w without a license) and has the FRS, GMRS, Maritime, and NOAA stations programmed and named in channel mode. You can then get on/scan the applicable stations and look for activity near you, or use it with a buddy (assuming you can transmit legally). If anyone wants to add to this, that would be great, as I personally have just left "retarded" territory and am slowly meandering through "might know something" territory.

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Sorry I meant youtube channels lol