Hey Jow Forums,
buhurt guy here. Wanting to get a kreigsmesser done for my dueling kit, but having a hard time finding sources on some. Didn't know whether or not to go to /his/ or here, but honestly just post cool historical swords, bonus if you have sauce on them.
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I don't know of anyone with a sparring kriegsmesser in their off the shelf lineup, but I'd suspect the odds are pretty good that Regenyei for example could make you one custom without being all too brutal about the price. He's done sparring messers before at least.
And when I actually bothered to go and have a look (maybe do that before posting...): regenyei.com
fuck thats a cool looking sword... where is that museum? any more pics?
I'm going through Vitaly Gryzlov, he makes god-tier stuff. The issue isn't so much I cant decide on design, but rather I need historical sources from a certain period of time, what with authenticity regulations. Here's some of his work.
what period?
At the max, 1450. I know that messers were a thing by then, its just the kriegsmesser specifically.
if i cant find it, ill probably go with a door knob styled longsword, but id like to just see if theres more sources out there I cant find.
I think it's a bit later than that, but I'll be interesting to see if anyone can show otherwise. Dunno if "Cutleranon" is still around at all, he may have a pretty good idea of when the earliest ones pop up.
Couldnt find that specific museum, but the writing makes me think maybe its in some Austrian museum. This one however is found in the Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna.
just gonna post some more of vitaly's work. shits great.
thanks user. nice pics. I think that's cyrillic writing below the larger text in latin. I have no idea where this could be from... hmmmmm
Großes Krieggsmesser из кoллeкции Hofjagd- und Rüstkammer Wien. Aвcтpия, 1490 г.
little past your end date
I love the curve and nail on #40, love the handle and pommel on #39, but hate how there are some clear renaissance pieces mixed in with them. Gross.
Im starting to think that everyone is just throwing around 1490 because thats when Maximillian I got his.
Maximillian I's messer, 1496
most likely, they tend not to technically/mechanically date them, they don't have anything like provenance for the vast majority and ballpark things based on loosely known trends and different technological innovations.
you can peruse this if you're so inclined, i can't stand pintrest.
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That's always confused me as to why they wouldnt mechanically date things. Sure, we have art, but we also have major resources we can use now, and it would vastly make it easier to do.
maybe its because steel was melted down and reused so many times. Who knows.
costs money. it cost a ton to accession artifacts, that's without running expensive tests on everything.
Ive seen the historical community before, and the private guys dont mind blowing the money. Why not just go on a dating spree?
If you're looking on actual use your'll need to look up fencing manuals from the period like Tallhoffer
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Otherwise follow this guys advice
Google translate thinks relvastust means weapons in.... Estonian. So that should narrow it down a bit at least.
>That's always confused me as to why they wouldnt mechanically date things.
What kind of test exactly are you thinking of here?
collectors tend to be pretty insular, they may do that, but they wouldn't share that information. it might while away in an excel spreadsheet for the book they intended to write and wouldn't be forwarded with the collection to the museum or auction house when they passed away. you don't want to put a shopping list up for thieves online. the odd exception seems to be some of theses guys, myArmoury.com, they also have a facebook page of messers, let me see if i can slip it past the filter
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