So I just found out about Amiot
France... Just... what? I'm so confused. What is this design?
So I just found out about Amiot
Wyatt Rodriguez
Jaxon Kelly
post weird fucking planes I guess
Ryder Bennett
I can't speak for the design or the Luftwaffe guys, but that image has been mirrored.
Cooper Taylor
I wish this bad boy had flown well enough to survive the prototype stage. Those russians were pretty crazy back in the day.
Luis Peterson
1930s aircraft designs are a helluva drug. That's all you need to know.
Elijah Price
Now there are some weird planes out there, but then you have Blohm & Voss. These guys should've stuck with ships.
Austin Barnes
Stalin had some novel idea on plane development. He basically rounded up all the engineers with plane experience, took them to a secluded camp and locked the door. They were told they were allowed to leave only if they succeeded in beating Luftwaffe, and anyone slacking or failing would be shot, but their families would be shot as a first warning. This was followed up. I think the general work atmosphere in that camp could indeed have driven a few guys crazy.
Luke Flores
Breguet, with 2 bridges, 1952.
Grayson Roberts
Such a fat little whale of a plane
Dominic Robinson
What are you talking about?
Jeremiah Garcia
The Ilya Muromets aircraft as it appeared in 1913 was a revolutionary design, intended for commercial service with its spacious fuselage incorporating a passenger saloon and washroom on board.[4] During World War I, it became the first four-engine bomber to equip a dedicated strategic bombing unit.[5] This heavy bomber was unrivaled in the early stages of the war, as the Central Powers had no aircraft capable enough to rival it until much later.[6]
Isaac James
He ran the soviet nuclear and rocket programs the same way
Jackson Butler
EXTRA THICC
Justin Garcia
me on the right
Lincoln Phillips
Almost. Unlike the air program, the nuclear and rocket Soviet development included a heap of German scientists. Who certainly didn't get any better work conditions, of course.
William Miller
this is untrue.
Brandon Collins
Cope.
Brandon Hernandez
The French always make weird shit
Levi Reed
The fuck are you talking about, it's an ordinary design of that time.
Ryder Foster
Same reason tanks looked like they did pre WW2. Effective design comes from failure, not success. If you build a plane and it fulfills the criteria, it will be a "success" until it faces the pressures of war and then it'll fail, forcing a redesign of the platform or a completely new one.
Look at tanks, planes and so on. They were constantly being stressed, fucked and remade throughout WW2 and the pre WW2 designs were laughable compared to even early war designs.
Cameron Evans
>Effective design comes from failure, not success. If you build a plane and it fulfills the criteria, it will be a "success" until it faces the pressures of war and then it'll fail, forcing a redesign of the platform or a completely new one.
To be honest I still fail to understand what was wrong with this nose type and how is it any less effective than the modern "cone" nose design.
Julian Bell
>pre WW2 designs were laughable compared to even early war designs.
I would also like to add that the 30s was a wild, wild time for aviation with lots of advancements being made in a very short timespan. The outbreak of WWII in 1940 only made things more extreme. Hell, in the 30s having an aero engine pushing out 1000hp was a big deal, but by the end of WWII 2000hp was the real benchmark for big bepis engine manufacturers.
All-metal aircraft construction was a new thing in the 30s, so people were experimenting a lot. A giant fridge for a nose was probably easier to make at first than a round nose with the then-limited construction methods. My understanding is mostly cursory though, so take that as you will.
Brody Fisher
Limited vision if we're comparing with American bombers.
Parker Ortiz
It has the aerodynamics of a fucking brick. Bad aero makes bad performance. Bad performance means bad range and bad bomb load. Bad range and bad bomb load means ineffective operations. Ineffective operations means objectives are incomplete. Incomplete objectives means you cannot defeat the enemy. And if you cannot defeat the enemy, YOU LOSE THE FUCKING WAR.
Brandon Flores
You could have just said bad aero.
Ethan Bailey
you get edge drag from turbulence with hard edges like that, though if they'd just curved the top they'd have accidentally made a lifting body design.
Aiden Richardson
>A giant fridge for a nose was probably easier to make at first than a round nose with the then-limited construction methods.
I thought that too, because it's really as easy as "lol just fold a metal sheet", but I think what really killed this type of noses is radomes.
Jayden James
>It has the aerodynamics of a fucking brick
On the contrary, it's folded and fairly streamlined. Kinda similar to hypersonic designs, desu.
Jackson Gray
>you get edge drag from turbulence with hard edges like that
Could it be that this effect increased with inevitable rise of average aircraft speed?
>though if they'd just curved the top they'd have accidentally made a lifting body design.
It's kinda curved tho.
Aiden Wood
>similar to this shape which is completely different
what did user mean by this
Jacob Smith
Similar in the sense that it's flat and not round with a cone in the front.
Carson Peterson
Dominic White
Liam Johnson
I like this pre-WWII style of fuselage design, it looks like they took the hull of a ship and slapped wings on it. Might even have been deliberate, as the hydrodynamics of hull design was the closest thing they had to knowledge on how to design an aerodynamic plane, and traditions carried over enough that they call it "aeronautics" for a reason.
Xavier Garcia
Did somebody say French designs?!
Jason Foster
I dig this, this is extra cute
Noah Price
Why is it upside down?
Levi Jackson
Blunt and or spatular nose design is a specifically advantageous for increasing L/D ratio in the hypersonic regime.
The old krautwizard Dietrich Kuchemann did most of the research on this stuff back in the '50s and '60s
Brandon Torres
Eli Richardson
Nathan Hall
Liam Russell
>lippisch
Speaking of krautwizards
Blake Price
Robert Lee
Robert Powell
don't believe everything you read
Juan Anderson
The ancestor of the A-380
Bentley Kelly
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Austin Evans
Don't forget the stalinocaust. He had tens of millions of ethnic ukrainians killed so he could replace them with ethnic russians to russify ukrainia to keep it from leaving the union.