ok, so i'm getting a new gun soon. this one guy is selling a glock 26 for 650, but it comes with 10 mags and a holster. another guy is selling a .40 m&p shield for 375, but just 2 mags with that. I'm new to handguns, i just wanna know what the better deal is. pic semi related
New to guns
Luis Butler
Blake Rodriguez
A used G26 should sell for around $400-425, maybe as much as $460 if it's a gen 5. Ten magazines certainly adds some value, maybe $15 per magazine, provided they are factory magazines and not Promag or some other aftermarket garbage. The holster might add some value to you IF it's the style you prefer. If it's not a style you like, then its value is $0. My personal advice is that there's no reason to own ten G26 magazines, though. When you get more than three or four magazines for it, all subsequent magazine purchases should be higher capacity, at least 17-round, but preferably 33 round magazines.
The .40 caliber Shield is worth around $200 if it's a gen 1, maybe as much as $240 if gen 2. These come from the factory with two magazines, so you're not getting anything extra there.
All in all, both are absolutely terrible, highway robbery level "deals." Do not enable either of these people's behaviors. They are fishing for felons and other prohibited persons who can't buy a gun legitimately.
Hudson King
A compact .40 is gonna suck as a first handgun.
Levi Morales
i have shot the m&P shield in 40. It is not a fun gun for beginners. recoil is more than snappy.
you get what you pay for. its not always about what the better deal is.
I recommend looking at other options if you have that much money to spend. better options than glock and m&p for that price range.
Angel Nelson
What the fuck are you even talking about, moron? Not every post here relating to first time handguns needs be have veiled references to some superior product that lays just out of reach to the laymen.
Owen Morris
Start with a 9mm. And certainly not a compact.
Train properly and then move higher.
Angel Hernandez
>i have shot the m&P shield in 40. It is not a fun gun for beginners. recoil is more than snappy.
I second this advice. However, the gen 2 might be a little easier. My main problem with the .40 Shield was that it kept slipping out of my grip with each shot. It wasn't exactly unpleasant to shoot, like a lightweight revolver is, just hard to control. Bad for a beginner because it will exaggerate your flinch reflex, but on the other hand, if you can master shooting one of these without flinching, then you can shoot any semi-auto.
U wot m8? All I did in my post was evaluate the deals. Where do you think I made veiled references to other handguns?
Isaac Lee
go for Shield. Glock is fuckign crap
Logan Watson
That shield is way over priced.
palmettostatearmory.com
As for the glock, that might seem like a reasonable deal considering the mags, but what on earth are you going to do with 10 g26 mags?
Caleb Wood
because rights do not exist if you own guns
gun control laws own the cons and get white men tossed in prison so everyone here loves them
Jace Miller
You chose literally the worst city in the country to compare gun laws. New York and California are considered socialist meccas on a good day.
Robert Parker
What are you talking about, specifically?
Jacob Bell
if you'll pay 650 munnybux for a gun why not go to your local gun shop, ask to see some guns under that and be honest with the clerk that you're new and want it for (_____). Pick the top 3 or 4 that felt the most comfortable to hold in your hands then go to the nearest range that'll rent you those guns and shoot them. there's no worse way to start off in shooting handguns than a gun that's uncomfortable to hold. then go back or find deals on that gun, maybe it's cabelas that's got the deal, or some LGS or maybe bud's or CTD or PSA, that feels the best to shoot. 9mm, 40S&W, 45 doesn't matter that much. police forces and soldiers have been trained from 0 to Hero on all three. there isn't a reason you shouldn't be able to learn on any of them with access to the internet and maybe an understanding RSO.
>side note
you could buy a 22lr as your first, but fundamentals aren't hard, not for children or adults, and you're likely to want more if it's a recreational shooter or be left wanting for power if it's a home defense gun. Oh, and don't forget that Walther exists like everybody else does.
Hudson Price
.....aaaannnd crickets.
I really wish that people would admit their mistakes when they are wrong. So rude.
Ian Ramirez
Ian Nguyen
I have a glock 27 and sw shield 2.0 9mm.
Both have night sights and tlr6 with iwb holster.
I suggest the sw shield with no manual safety for a ccw.
Very comfortable iwb and easy to shoot.
I wouldnt carry anything with out night sights and a light.
You could also just use a small handheld torch.
Charles Cooper
wrong thread sry
Gabriel Peterson
In addition, I bought my sw 2.0 9mm with night sights and tlr 6 for 500 in phx az, it also came with ammo and was in very good condition.
Asher Butler
FYI if you're looking for a BIFL "first handgun", everything by Ruger is pretty cheap these days. You can get everything from a Security 9, RAP, LCP, EC9, etc, for 200-320$ or so. Ruger is on par with S&W, and arguably more infamous for making good-value semi-automatic handguns that will outlive your grandchildren.
Glock is all brandname. A lot of manufacturers charge extra for brand, even if the product is arguably noticeably higher quality finish & polish & aftermarket at the cost you could nearly buy two good handguns.
Also, be careful buying used unless you're familiar with buying guns. 99% of "Deals" are people asking MSRP on shit you can buy new for 2/3 that.
Stick with 9mm too. 40 is dying, and 45 predates modern hollowpoints with overpressure ammo.
Justin Williams
>tlr6
How do you like yours, is that mount pretty solid?
Parker Sanchez
gun.deals
Look for a Shield 2.0 at or under 300$ or so
Dominic Reyes
>New to handguns
Get some thing compact or full size for your first gun. Glock 19 or an M&P 2.0 4" compact. I'd say stay away from the shield and 26 as starters.
Adam Nelson
Best advice in the thread so far.
Stay away from .40 at first, especially in a compact. It has very snappy recoil. Many would argue the recoil is less pleasant than .45ACP.
If it has to be a pistol, start with a full size 9mm. Enormous ammo selection, cheaper ammo, soft recoil, easy to train with, get the fundamentals down. Then when you’re considerably more comfortable with handling guns, go for a compact...still stay away from .40 since it doesn’t offer Much at the cost of less capacity, more expensive ammo, and snappy recoil. Make the full size your night stand gun and your compact your carry gun.
Isaiah Bell
>I'd say stay away from the shield and 26 as starters.
No
OP, go fingerfuck some guns at the local gunstore with the intent of finding what size of gun you reasonably think you can carry or conceal. I got a 4.5" tall compact that turned out to be slightly too big even for an appendix carry on me. Some people have smaller hands, some guys aren't that stacked, and some people just aren't comfortable trying to conceal a "compact". The actual definition of what is "compact" or "subcompact" is slides around like Women's clothing sizes. If it comes down to it, just an EC9s or LCP2 is adequate for self defense.
If you're buying for anything other than CCW, don't get a handgun. If it's home defense, get a Shotgun (or an AR while they're still cheap)
>get the fundamentals down
Buy a 22, or keep the target closer. You can practice fundamentals at 5 yards starting out.
William Hill
>The actual definition of what is "compact" or "subcompact" is slides around like Women's clothing sizes.
lmao
I can get all four fingers on a 4.3" magwell bottom to sights (no pinkie extensions) *compact* that's smaller than CZ's *subcompact*
you also don't really need the pinkie as much as you'd think
Easton Smith
Developing fundamentals with a ccw gun you cant hold right cause its small and has high recoil is hard as fuck for a new shooter.
Sebastian Gutierrez
I stick with what I said. Go get either compact or full size. Fuck off from sub for first gun. Sub are no fun to shoot, it fucks with learning how to shoot. Unless OP already been shooting pistols, and not learning how to shoot pistols
Kevin Fisher
>you cant hold right
My point was everyone's hand sizes are different.
I can grip borderline subcompact guns with all fingers
Is there something I'm missing from not gripping it like a baseball bat?
Chase Nguyen
>I can grip borderline subcompact guns with all fingers
Damn dude, that's some small as fuck hands. My pinky finger partially hangs off a G19.
Elijah Sanders
Very solid I totally suggest it. Ive been practicing having both eyes open and shooting in rapid succession, the laser sight helps with target acquisition a lot. After using the laser for a few mags i switch it off to practice unaided.
On another note I have a ruger lcp 2 with viridian light and ubran carry iwb deep concealment holster. Which is a must if its hot out.
David Lewis
Id say a ruger lcp 2 is a joy to shoot actually. The gen 1 not so much.
Andrew White
>small as fuck hands
I'm pretty average for my heritage. CZ P10 Subcompact is a "compact" for me.
I learned how to shoot on a subcompact 45. Big misconception about "too much recoil" for beginners. It's really learning not to react to or anticipate the recoil. Fundamentals you can practice separate on a 22, or in addition to training not to react.
> My pinky finger partially hangs off a G19
~0.5" wider hands than mine
380 is wonderful to shoot in general, and very underrated after a century of "magnum" hype
Camden Hall
Get neither. Having been one of those people that learned to shoot with a poly compact .40, it's going to give you trouble. The Glock 26 even with the magazines and holster is not worth 650 and I'm assuming the thing is used already. I advise that you look for a compact 9mm. If you're in an area with very high prices then order something online.