I just realised how stupid college is. It's really boring, everyone here is suicidal and depressed...

If you think college is depressing, wait until you become a wageslave

I think I'm going to kill myself, I just don't think I am strong enough for life, I don't want to endure pain anymore, I just want to be happy. How can I be happy when my whole life is just about getting money.

You're in an unfortunate intellectual position, user. You're not stupid enough to enjoy a meaningless life of menial labour broken only by mindless self-indulgence to break the tedium but you're not smart enough to rise to the top and break free from the chains of wageslavery. You're above-average: our lot is to dream of greater things without ever being able to realistically attain them

You are learning to do boring and repetite work which you have to do in order to pay your debt.

The boomers forced us to

I want a job with low responsibility, that is mindless to do and requires no socialization, or at the very least no socialization with strangers. Like I could maybe handle coworkers, but not customers. I want to earn enough money to be able to live comfortably minimalistically on my own while being able to invest money so that I can retire early with enough assets or whatever to passively earn enough money to survive for the rest of eternity.

That is the life I don't want. I've learnt you can't be a doormat in life or you'll end up marrying the girl you dont want to marry, working the job you hate, living where you dont want to. You have to demand your future.

Welcome to adulthood, user. It's scary, but what you're seeing now is the microcosm of what the rest of your life will be. But don't worry: at least you get to choose what kind of slave work you do.
Now, put your nose to the grindstone, because it's gonna be there until you die.

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I've hated every stage of my life. Being a kid sucked ass because I was weird and puberty was confusing. Being an adult makes you realise how stupid it all is, working to continue an existence of misery, just so we can proudly advertise we did ok in life.

Well, if you think you'd be happy with that, then see what's out there. Maybe a government job, I've heard that some areas are really slack.

But low responsibility and early retirement are a very tough combo. You may have to choose one or the other. But, again, run the numbers to find out. Nothing like hard facts to determine things. Look up a mid-level government worker salary, what you'd expect to spend on rent, food, etc. as well as save and invest. Then see where it brings you. It's honestly not that tough of an exercise. If the answer you get isn't what you like, then adjust the parameters. Pick another career choice and see.

But, as a software man myself, programmer salaries aren't that bad. And a LOT of early retirement folks come from that background, myself included. So factor that alternative in too. If you got just a middle-tier software job at a stable company like a utility company or health care company, how would that compare to the government job? Better or worse?

Again, design the plan. I'd be curious to see what you come up with.

There is absolutely no way I could become a professional programmer at this point.

Eeeeyup. Sucks even worse if you actually had a decent childhood.
At this point you either make up some new bullshit goal to try and achieve or you give up and maintain status quo until death. Of course, they never tell you it's gonna be like this when you're younger. I wouldn't have bothered if I'd known this would be where I ended up.
Memories are all I'll ever really own.

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Thats the saddest part about life, you either make it or you just exist.

If most men knew where they would end up in 10 years, they would kill themselves.

That's fine - most people don't have the interest. Not a big deal, find something else that will fit your plan.

Most people don't achieve their goals. It happens to like 1 in a million.

Work IT support in the public sector

You won't earn a lot but it will be more than enough to support yourself, you could browse Jow Forums and play vidya all day without doing anything as long as nothing fails/breaks (you're there as backup, not actively working) and you basically can't be fired

Mid-level federal salaries in an average cost state look to be about 45k-50k.

federalpay.org/gs/2017/virginia

I picked Virginia because it was average, but other states seem to be the same. What does the math look like on your end for that salary, OP? Does it fit the plan?

Not a bad option. I used to work in healthcare, it was pretty slack because there's so much money in it, they can overstaff a bit and everyone just does a bit here and there. And the salaries are pretty good too.

It doesn't get better. No matter what job you get, you will grow to hate it and will reach your breaking point after 1-2 years. Get a government job and you will want to blow your brains out every day. You will turn into the guy from Fight Club except there's no escape.

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What happens after the breaking point?

Sure, there's an escape. You're really being dramatic, meng. The plan is to work X years and then retire. You have to be on board with your own plan, though.

>retirement
>spend the dying years of your decayed body work free
I want to live for me, I don't want to help some abusive organisation take advantage of me.

Dying years my ass. We're talking an early retirement. You work for 5-10 and you're done. Starting at 18, you wouldn't even be 30.

Are you nuts? I don't know what country you're living at, but here in the UK, retirement is going up to the age of 70. Retirement is such a shit thing to invest in, why invest in it when you only get back when your that old.

>the escape is to not escape for 35-40 years and then get dropped when you're no longer useful
Gee, what a great fucking escape plan. Just keep working a job you hate for longer and then waste away in an armchair for the last few years of life. Top quality life right there. It's a wonder more people don't do this.

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Just get diagnosed with something and live on neetbux, down with the system.

Boys, stop talking out of your ass and get woke about early retirement.

earlyretirementextreme.com/

>earlyretirementextreme.com/
Too long not reading, if easy retirement was so easy, nobody would be working. The companies want to squeeze as much as they can out of you and then dump you.

I enjoy coding. I also enjoy doing mathematics too. Solving complex problems is a lot of fun and chemically rewarding when successful. Then again, I also enjoy learning about most about everything and regularly read/listen to podcasts.

I don't do any of these things for a living mind you, but I enjoy tinkering out with new projects. For instance I just put a raspberry pi in my hoop house in my garden to measure temp/humidity/luminosity and to send me a text when it is so I know when to raise the sides. I hope to expand this project, but that's what I'm doing immediately.

Most things are fun if you know how to make then fun. The thing is most people think shit is going to just fall into their lap. They think they go to college and suddenly they have a high paying career or lucrative research position. You have to be willing to take what you have and apply it creatively. That's the fun part. Don't whine and blame college or individual fields of endeavor because you lack enthusiasm.

>Too long not reading
LOL, stay a slave, then, boy

Quit, get new job, restart the cycle.

>Just retire early
You sound like you're smarter than that. The feelings you have now will chew at the back of your mind and you won't be able to get away from them. Just don't think about it too much and you'll be okay.

Yea, obviously you have to stick to the plan in order for it to work. My whole point is to get a plan together, don't just throw up your hands and say "it's fucked", that's stupid.

You can retire early but the depressive feelings and thoughts you have now will still follow you no matter what you do

What about transhumanism do you know, user? Mind telling me what they're teaching there?

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Will you fucking stop it.

Stop trying to bring other people down like that.

I was depressed my second half of college because I was disenchanted and lost much like OP (different, but similar). I'm four years out of university and I'm in a situation where I enjoy my life and I enjoy my job. I feel "down" every now and then and find myself in some negative thought loops, but that's a part of life and are necessary survival mechanisms. For the most part, I'm optimistic and joyful as ever.

You got scammed just like every other millenial.
It's not entirely useless but there is so much bullshit.

Pretty much.

Luckily I managed to get a lot out of my university experience. I didn't even get a job in what I studied (mathematics), but I'm glad I got the solid education (some structural, some self taught) that I did.

Looking back on college I can see that the place was a horrifying hotbed of mental illness and self destruction. College students are fucked, but you don't really realize it until you've left and find yourself among normal adults.

Apologies, thought you were OP. Good luck then.

That wasn't that guy you were responding to which still may or may not be OP.

You know, now that I look back, this is frighteningly accurate. I am entirely entertaining the thought that University is a breeding ground for mental illness. I do think that it doesn't have to be that way mind you. Most countries need some serious education reform.

I'm a biology major about to graduate. I've been pretty dead set on just living with my parents for a couple years after graduation to work full time anywhere I can find. Basically just want to save up for some undeveloped forested land, build a log cabin, convert a bus and be free and uncomfortable. You'd be surprised how cheap large acreage is if you can do without utilities and internet.

>University is a breeding ground for mental illness.
This. I don't really know why, but it's absolutely true. Our culture has kind of accepted and normalized it too. There many destructive behavoirs that are indicative of mental illness for the average adult, but for some reason are seen as normal or condoned when exhibited by college students.

>Poor diet
>Sleep deprivation
>Alcoholism and drug abuse
>Risky sexual behavior
>No clear reward structure for accomplishments (everything is a delayed promise that may not even come true)
>Attachment to one's major which often leads to unnecessary animosity towards those of other majors
>Lack of contribution to society

Most of these things are encouraged. Holy fuck. Thank God I didn't go to graduate school and got a job. Now that I'm actually relatively chemically healthy, it's unreal looking back how sick that process is.