Adhd is just low IQ isnt it

Their default brain is incapable of functioning without drugs so theyre retarded

I dunno, one of the best musicians I know has ADHD, he's real fast worker, great producer, singer, multi instrumentalist, incredible arranger, very quick thinker, won't shut the fuck up can't get him to sit fucking still, spooned him a couple of times on tour and he does this fucking leg thing where it just twitches at high speed every 20 minutes.

Definitely a smart dude. Definitely something very wrong or at least abnormal going on in his tiny fucking head.

Yes, there might be that kind of correlation, but they are still not the same thing and not exclusive to each other. It would be more accurate to say "people with ADHD tend to have lower IQs" or "people with schizophrenia tend to have lower IQs". You're confusing correlation with causation, a common mistake for beginners.
That is not how retardation works, I suggest becoming more educated in a topic before you discuss it.

why are adhd traits identical to black low iq traits , are you saying every black person has adhd?

literally the opposite

most people with adhd are just overflowing with ideas and creativity and to people at regular thinking speed it appears to them as if they are retarded when in fact adhd people are just 10 steps ahead

You're the one making that assumption, friendo.

>why are adhd traits identical to black low iq traits
Well, they actually aren't. I'm afraid you are rather ignorant regarding this subject matter.

genuine adhd is a farcry from why blacks get diagnosed with adhd

blacks just get diagnosed with it because it's easier than saying this person is fucking retarded.
99% of people with actual adhd don't scream and throw things around. that's not what adhd is

more likely to go to prison
lower grades
low attention span (cant build a functional society)
more likely to engage in criminal behavior
all of these are common in black/people with low iq and adhd persons

also more likely to abuse drugs also more likely in blacks and people with adhd

Again, correlation is not causation. You can have a high IQ and still do all those things. If you're just trying to say that niggers are retards, yeah. There's no need to beat around the bush OP.

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The NCHs will handle them.

also inability to plan for the future is common in blacks and people with adhd

the problem with the term attention deficit disorder is that it's a wrong label.

people with adhd do not have an inability to focus. they have the inability to focus on things they aren't interested in and a hyper focus on things we can.

I couldn't focus for 2 minutes on schoolwork but I can produce music routinely for 12 hours straight

so the reason i cant sit still is because i have a low iq?

> inability to focus on things they aren't interested in
this is the definition of black people, you would know this if you were around them

You really, really don't understand ADHD

Adhd behavior is identical to black behavior, it just is

just tell me how adhd is any different from black person behavior? my mind is open but from what im seeing the symptoms are almost identical

you are genuinely a moron

>a bird can fly so it's a plane

It really isn't the same
>people with ADHD tend to actually be pretty clever
>blacks are not clever
Boom, your entire argument is fucked.

one of the core symptoms of adhd is hyperfocus. blacks (dumb people in general) do not hyperfocus

>reeeeeee i'm smart
adhd is pure nigger behavior

God damn it, you baiting fucking retard.

but you don't even know what adhd is

the only actual argument here, and you do got a point

Blacks, by comparison to other races, have a more compressed frontal and that region of the brain behind your forehead determines things like behavior, emotions, problem solving andPlanning for the future whether it's thinking about the consequences of your immediate actions or investments. Same area. Their stunted development and relatively higher testosterone levels pretty much make up the behavior that we see in blacks

y u hate black people so much dude? Maybe if you spent less time watching stefan molynaux tell you about race realism and just made friends with some real people you wouldn't be so interested in this bell curve bullshit.
Even if you take that shit as fact, percentages don't mean so much when your sample size is small, you can only know so many people chances are you'll meet some black people who are on your level and you can get on with them. It honestly shouldn't fucking matter. Maybe it's just cause I'm UK and you're US. Haven't had any problems with black people in my whole life living here. All the ones I've met have either been like alright or bless. Obviously there's dickheads every now and then but that's just life. I don't know why people are so interested in race shit on the left and the right.

i dont hate them, but ive been attacked at least 4 times, they were black every time so i know theyre not safe

adhd is just low energy. low energy is usually caused by lack of rest.
in younger patients, this can happen for any number of reasons. could be a shitty situation at home (parents screeching at each other, not letting the kid sleep) untreated airway problems causing sleep apneas, stress, bullying, long commute times, parents working the kid too hard etc. lack of rest -> lack of energy -> inability to stay alert during classes.
this is why doctors use amphetamines to treat these conditions, the drugs give you more energy. the drugs are also complemented by therapy and lifestyle changes aimed at solving the core problems that won't let the kid get proper rest at home. the drugs are only supposed to be temporary.

in adults adhd is pretty much incurable. an adult with 10+ years of untreated adhd behind him will seldom have the resources, time and money required for significant lifestyle changes. they usually have a shitty academic record + work history and face chronic unemployment as well as problems finding stable relationships, and they are trapped in shitty entry level jobs. unless their relatives are rich and willing to step in, an adult adhd patient will spend the rest of life simply trying to survive

Ah I understand man. I get jumpy around chavs in trackeys in the UK cause I've been jumped a few times.

i want to object to this but i'm on at least 3 substances right now

I have a history untreated adhd and i am chronically unemployed academic failure extremely low self esteem makes relationships impossible . My country makes it impossible for people to get treated for adhd in adulthood if you get missed in childhood too bad, Would melatonin fix anything

I guess different demographics can thrive or become downtrodden and violent in different cultural/socio-economic situations. I know in the UK there's a lot of violent, poor whites who go around picking fights with people. There's also black Somali gangs in London who are fucking crazy and they will cut you the fuck. But in general in the places I've lived in the UK I've not had so much of a problem with blacks, more with a certain type of white. But if I had the same problems you've had I'd probably have the same prejudices.

Im actually in the same boat, I'm 21 went to a good uni but failing miserabley.
Talked to a psychologist and read about how ADHD bois usually falsely self diagnose depression.
I took the rest and she told me it's very likely I have ADHD. Need to get in contact with a gp to get drugs and shit.
So, is it worth it? Will the drugs make me an intellectual superhero? Did you get addicted?

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yea that add medicine makes your brain work better it really does make you smarter and feel more confident.

>lack of physical activity
>unbalanced chemically spiked food
That pretty much covers main reasons of ADHD "epidemy". And yeah, most people do not need going to high school and colleges despite what their parents say them.

Corrective stimulants do not make you an intellectual superhero. People with this attention disorder produce less dopamine in the brain, these stimulants cause dopamine to flood the brain. These drugs, like all drugs, are not addictive if they are used correctly. They are, however, habit forming.

I don't know. I'm actually in the same situation. I tried some drugs but they were not enough so I stopped taking them. I have a shitty family situation that fucks with my brain and saps all my energy, until I can get it sorted out i won't be able to move forward in life

I think I have ADHD, not add, don't know if that makes much difference. Are you hooked? Also, for how long are you planning on taking your medication?

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Attention and intelligence are not strongly linked

this is such a pathetic cope lmao

Quite the opposite, actually. It's key for two subtests on the WAIS-IV.

>produce less dopamine
So if I were to be physically fit and social, I possibly wouldn't require these drugs?

>in adults adhd is pretty much incurable. an adult with 10+ years of untreated adhd behind him will seldom have the resources, time and money required for significant lifestyle changes. they usually have a shitty academic record + work history and face chronic unemployment as well as problems finding stable relationships, and they are trapped in shitty entry level jobs. unless their relatives are rich and willing to step in, an adult adhd patient will spend the rest of life simply trying to survive

DELET THIS. 27 here and that describes me, along with not being able to read a book in 6 years. Is there anything I can do man?

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Depends on who you ask. Im personally never going to a psychiatrist again no matter how shit my problems get, medicine is not my thing. I was flooded with a cocktail of medications for my fucked up brain in early middle school on until after high school and all it did was leave me with a dopamine deficiency and a paranoia toward all medication.

this describes me. this is why i am going to the doctor soon. i am a wageslave and my life is unbearable. i cant do anything except focus on just barely surviving and being proud of that. i try to tell my stupid parents but they wont listen to me. because they think "nothing can be wrong with their kid".
i am 29 now. i was tested and diagnosed with add or adhd when i was 18 and they gave me some amphetamines.i didnt take them long cause of some problems and turmoil in my life. it made me feel like an autistic god that was at peace with the world i love it my mind felt free and i thought of all kinds of stuff i wast capable of thinking of before. it also gave me tons of confidence and energy i could walk miles for no reason at all.
i have also been diagnosed with paranoid Schizophrenia. but the problem is everytime i go to the doctors they always give me some shitty anti depressant or anti psychotic and they wont listen to me when i tell them that stuff doesn't work for me at all. it makes me feel worse. i have been self medicating with kratom and energy drinks any type of stimulants like cocaine or anything makes me feel like a god and love life. i havent been on meds for a long time. and i have a doctors appointment monday. im going to tell them i have adhd and they better fucking listen to me and agree this time. im trying to get an appointment with a neurologist. the problem is none of these fucking people ever listen to me. they think i am lying or they dont like the patient trying to self diagnose themselves.

The reality is that different things can make you have shitty attention and doctors make up a diagnosis so they can push their drugs.
How to cure AHDH:
You should in general do a lot of excersise
But get either a homebike or a treadmill.
Do runs multiple times a day.
Stop eating a lot of sugar.
You might also have to stop eating gluten.
In general look at your diet and make it as clean as possible. no fast food and no candy.
Don't cum every day. Try and not cum as much but when you do cum as fast you can.
decrease screen time and take walks.
stop being a massive faggot.
>inb4 i have tried that
no you haven't you stupid nigger.

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>stop being a massive faggot
there's irony in them there hills

True ADHD cannot be so easily brushed aside, but I think what a lot of people here have would be information overload which can quite simply be solved by taking a hiatus from technology, but especially from technology like vidya and Jow Forums where information is thrown at you in quick bursts.
Instead, read a book or go for a walk, rather than shitpost on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.

because once they take Adderall or Ritalin, their grades skyrocket.
It's not unusual to see them then get straight A's and rise to the top.
IQ is just not this fluid, it had to be inborn, innate.
Thing is, they work so hard around the shortattention span thing, that once they get the needed help, they have stronger than usual minds.

This is an erroneous statement.
The poster of this statement has low IQ.
Why? Because you don't understand science.
Smart people understand science.

Damn dude that seems rough, I hope you get the medication you need.

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The OP has his head up his ass
The OP has absolutely no scientific training.

Op is just saying it like how he sees it

Once you alter their brain chemistry theu become smart. Same could be done for people with low iq

Also this is wrong. People with adhd generally have lower grades than their peers even after treatment

ADHD would seriously hinder one's ability to perform on an IQ test.

I have a genius level IQ and never experienced anything ADD/ADHD related. I actually excelled in school and life in general, except socially, where my luck with women amounts to pure chance.

Oh I guess they are synonymous then

No you retard, it very specifically isn't you low IQ pleb, it's basically describing people who pay less attention to things than others. They're low in conscientiousness, discipline, they could still get high on an IQ test if it interested them.

Anyways, ADHD is largely an excuse to prescribe childrens amphetamines or methylphenidate which is very similar. People use the drugs because the make you feel really confident like you can really get stuff done, they improve eye contact, they make it easier to concentrate on boring tasks, they're performance enhancing. They're awesome drugs and the people want them so we make up this pretense of the poor kids with ADHD. More and more people are gonna get diagnosed until eventually people get tired of how everybody is constantly on amphetamines.

"In a remarkable new study published in Biological Psychiatry, Dr. Andrew McIntosh and his colleagues at the University of Edinburgh provide new evidence that the genetic risk for schizophrenia is associated with lower IQ among people who do not develop this disorder.

The authors analyzed data from 937 individuals in Scotland who first completed IQ testing in 1947, at age 11. Around age 70, they were retested and their DNA was analyzed to estimate their genetic risk for schizophrenia.

The researchers found that individuals with a higher genetic risk for schizophrenia had a lower IQ at age 70 but not at age 11. Having more schizophrenia risk-related gene variants was also associated with a greater decline in lifelong cognitive ability.

"If nature has loaded a person's genes towards schizophrenia, then there is a slight but detectable worsening in cognitive function between childhood and old age. With further research into how these genes affect the brain, it could become possible to understand how genes linked to schizophrenia affect people's cognitive function," said McIntosh."

Kek, naw my guy
I have ADHD, and I've got a 136iq

Before or after taking the mind altering substances.

ADHD is high IQ / high creativity. It's not a real disorder, it's mostly a product of children being bored to shit in environments that aren't stimulating enough for them. Because these children act out, society drugs them to make them more docile and easy to handle. It's not a disorder, it's part of their personality.