When did you realize you're not a good person?

What guys think they are owed sex? I see a lot of guys upset they can't get sex but they never think they are owed, it's more like they are bummed out about someone turning them down.

This ''you can't feel entitled'' shit is just vile feminist garbage telling you that you have to feel inferior
but on the other hand don't act like a cuck in the first place and give women your energy if you aren't getting anything in return from the get go
if she's attracted to you, it will be pretty obvious if you make advances early on
on the other hand again, yeah, if you're high iq, and genuinely a decent person it can be infuriating to be rejected for superficial reasons. all you can really do is work to prove the world that you aren't delusional about your merits
Me, I'm a musician, eager as hell to show the world what I can do, bt it's not quite ready yet. all the girls who have heard my talents have been impressed though

option A)
>this creepy friend of mine thinks I owe him sex
option B)
>this shitbag ghosted me for NO REASON

if you're not a subservient cuckboy she's going to think you're a villain of some kind

You're a very strange person. The same reason someone doesn't want to bone their brother. Freud would love you.

God it's annoying as fuck when some smug asshole tells you that you have to be happy that you are basically getting cucked by everyone around you. Maybe someone is a cool person and really smart but they were born a cripple with a fucked up face. Honestly that's a really sad state to be in and it's understandable that you lash out on the superficiality of people. And not just women. The rest of you who are actually redeemable, maybe take my advice:

When I let hobbies and comfort get in the way of personal relations.

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There's nothing strange about what I'm saying, it's the fact of the matter.

I'm starting to wonder if we should start firing back venom at women who treat us disrespectfully instead of just rejecting us humbly
Redditors might tell us that we're cringey, but maybe women will learn to be decent human beings that don't try and make us feel bad for having a fucking sexuality

Again, the same reason one doesn't want to bone their brother. Those situations where you got the girl using the guy for free stuff doesn't count. Good friends don't let you buy them stuff. I realize there's plenty of men under the impression it's normal to buy their female friend's shit. That ain't normal.

>imagine your creepy poor citizens thinking you owe them free healthcare and welfare

Well, monasteries prove you don't die from lack of sex unlike going without healthcare or food.

I am a good person. I realize that I don't fit in to a society with such hateful, manipulative people who love playing social games, word games, being dishonest and doing whatever they can to raise their own image and ego while putting others down and trying to destroy the self-esteem of mentally weaker people who may just want to be left alone.

Lmao
Good shit man.
>imagine being an entitled muslim thinking you get to live off of another race's work

>Again, the same reason one doesn't want to bone their brother.
The Westermarck effect doesn't count as an argument against what I'm saying at all.
You can be genuine friends with a girl, and she can genuinely like you as a person, but if she wouldn't have sex with you she's saying you're genetic trash and worthless as a human (person and human aren't the same thing).
"tee hee, user I really love hanging out with you! Oh no, I'd never date you or have sex with you though, you're not my type!" (i.e. you are not physically good enough, your genes are inferior in her eyes and they don't deserve to propagate).
All sexual attraction comes from the fact that you think a person is genetically fit. When you aren't attracted to someone, it means you don't think they are genetically fit enough to reproduce.
I don't see why a person should be friends with someone who thinks that about them.

Because women feel entitled by nature because they make babby and project this attitude on the men they aren't interested in. Know that comic floating around where the guy says "I'm trying to be the right one for you" and the girl responds "The right one doesn't have to try"? That illustrates the difference between men and women; men are told they aren't owed and have to earn things, must make their wishes reality, while women think things should magically bend to their whims because they make babby.

If she thinks you're "entitled", you're not even a man in her eyes.

Yeah, but a tortured existence is arguably worse

Professional clown thinks hes above other betas

Healthcare and sex are both positive rights. You can't claim one positive right is more important than the other.

>imagine being a first world country and accepting 3 b i l l i on in foreign aide

Cucks (most normies) think they are better because they get to watch their girlfriend get fucked (speaking somewhat metaphorically, since most men get cheated on)

I'm not a bad person, I just can't find myself relating to most people at all. I'm quite eccentric.

Yeah. There can be the occasion that a woman will see a close male friend to be the equivalent of family, and the idea of having sex with them would be the equivalent of boning their brother. The same can happen for men. You have men who can see a certain female friend to be the equivalent of a sister, and they'd find it really weird to have sex with them despite the person being physically attractive. I don't think every friendship between the opposite sex is of this caliber, but some certainly are... Sex doesn't explain everything in humanity since we've evolved beyond that.

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I can claim that a diabetic will quickly die without his insulin shot. I can claim that a victim of heart failure will perish shortly without intervention. Meanwhile, you've gone years without sex, but you're still posting.

Of course there are rare instances where something like the Westermarck effect affects non-relatives, but we're talking about friendship.
Now understand I'm not even saying that they will ever have sex, just if they WOULD ever have sex. Two people can be friends and be attracted and would have sex with each other in some scenario, and still never do it. But if a person WOULDN'T have sex with someone, the reason is either because of the Westermarck effect (which is rare for non-relatives so we will assume for arguments sake it's not that) or because they do not find them genetically fit enough to propagate their genes, that is they are human genetic trash.
>Sex doesn't explain everything in humanity since we've evolved beyond that.
If you genuinely believe this you don't know anything. We are literally no different from any other animal when it comes to sex and reproduction and sexual selection, we have not "evolved beyond that" and by definition we never can or will unless we become robots.

You're also the dude who admitted you would fuck your male friends in a heartbeat if they could make babies though, aren't you?

That was another user who was agreeing with me. My argument was that this still applies to gay people. This applies to all genders and sexual orientations.

This. I was always an edgelord who wanted to be the bad guy. They always looked cooler, did whatever they wanted, and had cool monologues.

It's more common then you think so you cannot rule it out. Regarding the latter, no other animal will willingly make the choice to abstain from reproduction. To this day, there are people who willingly take on vows of celibacy for religious reasoning. That alone goes against our idea that we are no different then animals. You are blinded by sex. That's why Freud is only so important in modern psychology. He had some good points, but people realized after awhile that a lot more then sex dictates human behavior.

I think that's a part of maturity and growing up. Realizing you are shit, and so is everyone else. How you deal with that is on you, Chad's pump and dump, normies live in denial, then us who can't get any, anyway, or have simply given up.

>good friends don't let you buy them stuff
Idk about that, you've never bought your friend a gift or paid for a meal when they didn't have the funds? As long as they do it back I see nothing wrong with the give-and-take situation. It only becomes a problem when its parasitic.

Anyone who believes the primary purpose of a relationship is to get sex is not worth sharing a relationship with.

No. It's true that nobody where I live does that sort of thing. If a person doesn't have money, you hang out at their house or do something that doesn't involve money. Maybe it's a cultural thing.

>Genes
You idiot, if everything was genes we would all be tall, strong and beautiful, we have a russian roulette of genetics going on right now.
Women make their judgement not only on genetics but on how well is your life going right now, they judge based on power, style, social skills and genetics.

> we would all be tall, strong and beautiful
What are recesdive genes? What are mutations?

Where are you from, if you don't mind me asking? I'm from the North-east US and people do that kind of thing for friends. But I guess it all depends on how close the two people are. I never give things to beggars, for example. And certain friends I wouldn't do things for because I know they won't pay it back ever.

No, user, WILL not have sex is different from WOULD NOT have sex, this is what you're not understanding.
A person who takes a vow of celibacy is saying that they WILL NOT have sex ever again. That does not mean that they wouldn't find certain people attractive, which is the point I'm making. It's when you don't find someone attractive that you WOULD NOT have sex with them - a person who's taken a vow of celibacy is not saying that they WOULD NOT have sex with a person they find attractive, they're saying they WILL NOT have sex with that person because of the vow.
Saying that you WOULD NOT date someone because they "aren't your type" or "just friends" isn't saying that you WILL NOT have sex with them for those reasons, it's saying that "I do not think youre genes are good enough even if I think you're a cool person and I WOULD NOT propagate your genes".
Nope, because first of all those genes are not actually objectively the best, in fact small size is objectively superior now, and secondly it's not about whether or not the offspring actually IS strong, it's about whether or not you think the other person is good enough to reproduce with. It doesn't matter if the baby is actually the best, what matters is you think the other person is fit enough to take the chance. If you don't think the other person is fit enough, then you WOULD NOT breed with them and take that chance.

Here's a good way to think about it: suzie and mark are good friends. Suzi genuinely likes mark as a person, but mark is only 5'4". Suzie is 5'7", and she WOULD NOT (Not WILL NOT but WOULD NOT) ever date or have sex with a man shorter than her. Even though suzy genuinely finds mark to be a good person and genuinely likes his company as a person, as a HUMAN BIOLOGICAL ORGANISM she does not think that mark is fit enough to reproduce and she thinks he is genetically worthless. IF mark was 6 inches taller, then suzy would have no problems dating him, because he WOULD BE fit enough.

Having sex for the purpose of child birth you best be joking. This is why youre a perma virgin.

You are making way too much assumptions about how women choose their partners.
You are not even taking into account fetishes, money and other social factors that have way more weight than genetics.

When I grew up and I don't mean that in a positive way.

I'm not a virgin, your ad hominem is tired and stupid.
Even if you WILL NOT have a child with someone does not matter. Read what I'm saying, if you're smart enough to understand.
Even if you WILL NOT have a child, you have sex with someone who you are attracted to, that is, someone who you think is genetically fit enough. You don't have sex with someone you're not attracted to, and attraction is because you think the person is genetically fit. Even if you never want to have kids with that person or even if you don't want to ever have kids at all, you only have sex with someone you WOULD theoretically have kids with.
It doesn't just apply to women, as I already said this applies to all genders and sexual orientations. Things like fetishes, resources, etc all play into the mix, they do not change anything.

Not realizing most women just care about confidence. Im a jobless neet and I havent even showered in like 2 weeks and I got a blowjob from a random bitch two days ago. And fucked another girl last weekend. All I said was why not itll be fun

oh hey you again I see your CAPS game is still strong as ever

Ive has sex with women who werent attracted to me just by asking. And telling them itd be fun you have this giant conspiracy on how people work when in reality theyre way more straightforward.

Also explain sex with post menopausal women or people otherwise sterile. They would not have a child with anyone because they cant.

I'm doing that because I can't italicize.
They found the mix of your personality and genetics good enough to be attractive. They were saying that you have a high enough fitness rating to reproduce with, even if they will not actually be reproducing with you.
No, they WILL NOT have children because they can't. You don't seem to be understanding the difference between will and would.

>they do not change anything.
Except, these factors are not genetics.
You don't need good genes to reproduce, you just need enough money to do so, we live in a capitalist society right now, we have genetical abominations walking around pretending to be humans.

When I related more with villains than heroes.

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Im a skellington and a solid 6.5out of10 by most standards. Ive had a girl offer to fuck me before I had even sent a pic. Legit its all wordplay and I learned word play I just got a commission based job and made my life dependent on my ability to make people like me and trust me. I used to not be able to get anyone to sleep with me and then I just got over it.

>start to side with bad guys in movies/anime/vidya
>browsing /his/
>read shit about mussolini, hitler, sympathize and empathize with them
>watch basement tapes and read My Twisted World, sympathized and empathized there too
>Escapist fantasies of receiving pleasure start to be replaced with inflicting pain
>slowly any feelings of shame or guilt fade away
>start typing angry post when I disagree with something, close out the reply window halfway through because I don't give a shit about anything anymore
>always look for things to complain about
>life becomes less about enjoying things and more about hating things, eventually just care so little that I can't even be bothered to think about anything
Eventually some people like me will just become edgelords for a short while, after which they just don't care anymore. I'm surprised I managed to type this piece of shit post and send it through.

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I hate society in general, the death of modern society would be a blessing, not a curse.

Southeast U.S. Now, we aren't particularly affluent in this area so that is why I said it might be a cultural thing. Friendships here aren't built on paying for each other. Most of what we do to enjoy time with one another is free. We spend a lot of time at each other's houses shooting the shit. If you do go out to eat, people pay for themselves. Like I said, when people don't have the money, they just say, "Oh, I can't afford that right now," and you just go hang out instead. It's just very bizarre to me to hear people complaining about paying for 'x, y, and z,' with nothing in return since people here don't get in that predicament in the first place. When I hear that, it doesn't sound like a good friend. It sounds like a friendship built on money.

What? There's mad sex going on inside monasteries retard.

under-fucking-rated

You didn't watch the fucking basement tapes. You have no idea what you're talking about, stop pretending you do.

When I realized that morality doesn't actually exist anymore. We've gone completely nihilistic.
Society collectively agrees that no one deserves kindness or acceptance, and ones that are desperate to find it are shunned even more.
We think that its just natural for people to be so shitty that kids kill themselves and each other.

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What about people who don't have the biological workings in the first place to reproduce? Where do they stand out of curiosity?

These.

>sexual behaviors is just whims guys, doesn't mean anything

Really means:
Stop trying to control my behavioral whims by demanding consistency and attaching consequences to failure to adhere to it.

When I sat on r9k with two bottles of hard alcohol and pouring them down like water to numb the pain

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There's nothing wrong with being perceived as a villain. It does not harm any of your chances. Pretend that you're a woman and compare, say, Sephiroth from Final Fantasy to that wererat Peter guy from Harry Potter.

when I buried a little chicken alive in front of his mother
I dont know, I really enjoyed hurting small animals as a kid. I was an alpha kid

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oh I've never really thought I was a good person.
I wouldn't say I'm bad, I've never done anything that would be considered bad, but I've never done anything good either.

when i realized that every happy/success story fills me with bitter jealousy

When I went to bed alone for 20 years.

One day i realized i only befriended people for their utility.

I noticed how upset people would get when relationships of any kind met their end, and how I discarded ones that lost their use with no real thought.

The worst part though, is i realize i made myself this way sometime down the road. I remember a time in my childhood when i liked people for who they were, not what they could do for me.

All attempts to rectify this have been useless, its like i've steeled myself against caring somehow. I've come to realize ive been manipulating people all along like some kind of retarded puppeteer, slowly repurposing them for my uses.

The first time i had a lucid dream it immediately turned into me rapeing everything

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Reddit. these posters are redditers

Apparently only 1 of my posts in this thread counted as Reddit material. user, the Reddit scare has you turning on your own kind. Stop that.

Hey reddit go fucking hang yourself