Most men don't have empathy...

Beeing a slut who sleeps with strangers or can't commit to a longterm relationship would be part of your personality though.

How do you know they're strangers? If you want girls to commit to long-term relationships, the last thing they will do is pick a loser from Jow Forums or someone who is insecure about sexual pasts. A guy insecure about sexual past can not commit to a long-term relationship because he does not care about the woman as an individual.

How about an actual response and not an ad hominem

3/10 troll

If you had 10 partners by the age of 20 then you clearly didn't commit to any long term relationships.

Is it really a surprise to you that two people who spend their time in near-constant contact would have things in common? There's nothing parasitic about couples coming to like the same things, it would be a huge compatibility issue if they didn't.

How do you hang out with your male friends? Just sit around in silence for fear of influencing each other? Oh, right, rhetorical question, you can't have healthy relationships with men, either.

>implying that women aren't collectively the most purile, avoidant, slavish, responsibility-dodging demographic in the entire world
yeh nah. Take your bullshit accusations and fuck off like you were told to.

Never say "most" use the word "many", because it's pretty much irrefutable.

I don't think many men lack empathy i think they've never experienced a significant amount of love or empathy to begin with.

Men are trained to suprrss their emotions and tough everything out and receive no support. Alternatively some men are now becoming passive and overly emotional to the point they are pushovers (soyboys, betas).

Few men manage to receive good treatment from their peers and most importantly females. This results in a spectrum of jaded men the most severe being us robots.

Personality is important, but no one cared about mine. Sexual history shouldm't matter but every woman i've known has been a cheater.

It's not just woman or man. Its people. Both do it. Women have sex whenever they want with whomever they want, and the men left behind suffer. Women cheat on men and lead him to kill himself or attack her. Men cheat on women and lead them to go crazy and fuck up his life every way possible.

Everyone sucks. You're all fucking awful. Stop complaining about this and post tits so i can ogle them with my oculars. If you aren't fat or ugly i'll respond asking to smoke your salami. Have a good day.

>10 men
I think it's fair not to be interested in women who engage in casual sex. She doesn't have the same values I do, that's all. I'm only interested in sex in long-term relationships so I hope to find someone who feels the same.

Rationally explain how judging a person for their individual actions, that they chose to engage in, means that you aren't treating them like an individual?

>Having empathy for a slut that is scientifically proven to be unable to form emotional bonds.
The most sex partners a woman has had the less bonding she can do. Go look it up science has already proven this.

There's no argument that makes a high partner count desirable.
None.
Zero.
The greatest fear a man faces when dealing with women is being used for money and semen then casually getting thrown aside. If a woman has a track record of doing this, why assume she won't do it again. This is before you think about legitimacy and disease.

At the same time, I think a lot of people don't think rationally about bodycounts.
A 28 year old woman for instance with a body count of 6 could potentially have been in six two year relationships that each failed for reasons beyond her control. It's wholly possible that you will indeed be the one that they happy works, roastie memes, etc.

But again, what I will say ultimately is that as a man, you're weighing options and seeing what the best you can get is, and bodycounts are a significant handicap in terms of potential partner value.

Women do this cool thing where they greatly overestimate their value and they should stop doing it. Sleeping with large numbers of men isn't attractive to men. You don't get to make that choice and then secure a high quality mate. No having the cake and eating it. Refusal to adjust standards will only lead to dissatisfaction and misery.

>he does not care about the woman as an individual

>"There is a 'me' that is separate from my physical being and the things that I think, do and say! And you don't care about it!

You're right, I don't care about the noumenal you.

>Most men don't have empathy, it seems like they won't like women for who they are as people and instead want them to change to cater to their own desires as if they're objects who should build their whole lifestyle around the guy's sexual impulses.
nope

i think they fail to realize that empathy is the enemy to reason and society and masculinity
>empathy is the worst meme invented by women

>girls will not want to be with a guy who's love is conditional & based on circumstances

Unfortunately, there is no such thing as unconditional love, and it would be reprehensible if it did exist. So I guess fembots really won't have any choice in the end.

You realize how painful it is for a guy to meet a girl he adores, and find out she's been with tons of other men.
You could be an amazing artist you could be the sweetest person, but I will not be able to wash the image of you rimming a dude with a 9 inch cock out of my head. (hypothetically). Even if I can satisfy you as well or better in bed, it bothers me.

It's like your image has been tainted. there's also studies that show females with a higher partner count tend to have less successful marriages. Obviously it's my own insecurity but i know actual Chads who think the same. They don't want a girl with 3 or more sexual partners

Black Pill for females: Rarely will your personalities outshine his male friends, rarely will you be interesting and charming enough for men to forgive your sexual history.

Men don't see that as a sole reason to be with you, we expect a package and the most important qualities aren't actually personality or interesting hobbies. We can hang out with guys for that.

What we want is:
>sex
>affection
>modesty (This means not having a bunch of sexual partners or doing slutty shit)
>loyalty
>and support
>Being interesting, talented, funny, or charming are just BONUSES
We don't need you to be interesting, or funny to talk to. We already have more interesting, hilarious, and likeable friends.

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No... women do need to be at a level of compatibility that they could be your friend.

However, that cannot be all they have to offer. They need to have the other components you mentioned too.

Otherwise you might as well just buy a hooker and a prostitute.

I think a womans ability to stay loyal, purity level, and modesty are the most valuable traits that men want in a woman.
If a woman has had 10 sexual partners it brings up several problems
>potential for STDs
>Wondering why she had so many failed relationships
>If 3 of the 10 were boyfriends, wondering why she's having so many flings, Friends with benefits, one night stands
>Sexual insecurity/incompatibility: If she gets off to having men with huge dicks fucking her, I might not be able to please her. With a woman with no or very few partners I don't have to worry so much and feel self-conscious about pleasing her.
>If there are sexual favors she did for others in the past, that she won't do with you
>if she's cheated on people
>how easy she is to get in bed
>marriages being less succesful with a higher sexual partner count

All of these little things, add up. The reason why a virgin girl is so valuable is that you don't have to worry about this as much. Virgins who married their partner are the most likely to have long lasting successful marriages you know.
The sheer thought of other guys fucking her is enough to sort of repulse me. I'll still date her, but I'll always wish I was the first.

Also keep in mind a man is much more accepting of a girl who is inexperienced in bed. He's much more willing to teach her how to please him.

Women can be turned off if a guy doesn't know what he's doing, or seems insecure. Women don't want to teach a man how to fuck them properly. They expect the man to figure that out themselves.
There are some girls who might find that inexperience endearing in a boyfriend, but most will be unhappy if he doesn't perform well.

Holy shit. Just because you had one or two bad experiences with men doesnt mean we are all bad. Im a KV but have a girlfriend that I love and started dating because her personality is amazing, not because I was expecting sexual favors that would fulfil my wildest desires.

how many sexual partners does she have??

inb4 5

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>I want to ride the cock carousel for years and then i want you to ignore that because what matters is what's inside you not your past
What if i told you i'm a former serial killer and i just killed my 25th victim a week ago but that's the last one because i can see now that i did wrong, now i want to settle down and stop killing people. Would you not judge me for my past?

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Those can be important, yes

But if two people cannot be "friends" with one another the relationshi is void. They have nothing to discuss and will be unable to relate to one another. That compatibility is the foundation all else is built on.

If the girl has that but the guy finds oh, she's had sex with 20 men, that may overrule her otherwise compatible psychology/etc. as it is important; but a complete lack of "I can comfortably exist around you" destroys the ability for anything more than casual sex.

being friends with a person in a relationship just means enjoying eachother's company. It doesn't mean constantly wanting to be around them.

That's one of the most basic and easy things to do. For a male to enjoy your company, you just have to be kind, and willing to give him affection.
You dont necessarily have to be interesting, funny or charming.

You just need to be decent.

>Sexual insecurity/incompatibility: If she gets off to having men with huge dicks fucking her, I might not be able to please her. With a woman with no or very few partners I don't have to worry so much and feel self-conscious about pleasing her.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but partner count has nothing to do with this. There are virgin size queens and experienced women able to appreciate even weak lovers. But like the rest of the stuff in this post, it's crap that you're hung up on, not her. I don't know if you've been paying attention to supply and demand around here but she can just find a better guy who's not a neurotic wreck and the only thing that will remain of you is insecure internet comments.

Assuming you believe casual sex is morally equivalent to murder, this post is very well thought out.

You're a burden to men. All women between 18-30 these days are
>don't cook
>think cleaning is degrading
>never do other housework
>no personality
>same set of interests for every woman
>use sex to control men
>0 loyalty
>constant nagging
Then combine that with
>law always favors women except in cases of overwhelming evidence against them
>even then they get a slap on the wrist
>also can ruin your life socially with a word
And you get possibly the worst deal in history to even associate with them. Y'all keep thinking you're worth what you were in the '50s and '60s when there wasn't no-fault divorce and women were actually expected to contribute to a relationship. I won't even begin pointing out how promiscuity is even more of an issue today than it ever was. We're at fall-of-Rome levels.
People often talk about women hitting the wall, but you're about to smack into a fucking mountain collectively in another decade or so.

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sounds like roastie got a lil bit toastie.
Partner count has a lot to do with it and a vrigin size queen is much rarer than a non-virgin size queen. Pretending that theres an even ratio is very stupid.

a woman who has directly experienced men of different sizes will be more likely to have a preference for one than a virgin.

Even if I didn't have this hang up all of the other points i made are valid. A woman who has been with 10 guys clearly has a problem keeping steady relationships, and might be a bad girlfriend.

>it seems like they won't like women for who they are as people

to be fair, most women fucking suck "as people" and there's a reason why so many women prefer the company of men.

Anyone tl;dr what this ugly-ass bitch is saying

If you are not interesting in any way, they will not want to be around you much at all. There will be no communication. There will be no bonding. You will have no shared activities outside of a few quick fucks and be essentially living with a stranger.

You need compatibility and the capacity for friendship.
Ideally you need philia, storge, eros, and as much agape as you can manage, to love and be with someone.

Being a whore and a serial killer have very different degrees of desirability but both are unappealing and the principle is the same. If you're a woman and you tell a man you should ignore her negative traits then you should be ready to ignore your men's negative traits too or else you're a self-centered hypocrite

Moral equivalence isn't necessary for an analogy. That defeats the purpose of analogies to begin with.
They need to simply be morally correlative. This thing is bad, cock carousel is bad.
Any mention rape or murder is simply taking that correlation to the extreme to further dismantle your degenerate logic.

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I'm a 25 khv and I like cooking. Most of what I eat is properly cooked, not frozen meals or prepackaged stuff.
I clean because it is practical (live alone, not with parents) and there are times it feels good/I feel accomplished after
I like helping and want to tidy my friends room sometimes...

Cant say what you'd say regarding personality and interests though. You'd have to judge or define that for me.

I do think I am very devoted/loyal though...

I do know some good girls, too.

If a woman was to stay that to me I would mind because it's clear that they value sex in a completely different matter than I do

There's correlation between number of sexual partners and unfaithfulness
All I want is someone to be faithful to me and someone to be faithful to

Now it's very hypocritical to think that a man can have multiple partners but women can't and that shouldn't matter
But I can't imagine being someone who has been that intimate with someone before

it depends on your definition of interesting. Don't mistake it with charming or likeable.
Jeffrey Dahmer is an interesting person. Interesting means you have unique traits skills , hobbies, talents, etc.
Being likeable means that a guy enjoys being around you. You could be very average in terms of interests but if you are nice and supportive thats good enough for most men.

>You will have no shared activities outside of a few quick fucks and be essentially living with a stranger.
this is also a meme. you dont need to have the same hobbies to have a successful relationship.
You just need to have good chemistry with one another.
a lot of the times couples who don't share common interests will find new hobbies and things to share with one another so your argument is a meme.

one of the most cliche messages there are:
thinks men are superficial because they don't value a woman for her personality (or lack of one) alone, she wants to be a hoe under the pretense of having a "normal sexual life" but also not be judged for it (cuz everyone who dares is an insecure boy with small peener ofc), and because of all these her conclusion is that men don't have empathy.

Fresh out the oven, who wants pizza.

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>Partner count has a lot to do with it and a vrigin size queen is much rarer than a non-virgin size queen. Pretending that theres an even ratio is very stupid.

On what basis do you claim this?

>a woman who has directly experienced men of different sizes will be more likely to have a preference for one than a virgin.

What are dildos? What is porn? Unless you think virgin girls come hermetically sealed in their packaging, there's nothing to stop budding size queens from discovering and indulging their desires without incrementing their partner count at all.

>Even if I didn't have this hang up all of the other points i made are valid. A woman who has been with 10 guys clearly has a problem keeping steady relationships, and might be a bad girlfriend.
>might be a bad girlfriend.
>might

So at the end of the day you have exactly what you would have had making 0 assumptions about her partner count - guesswork and the need to get to know her as an individual.

Bitch, I couldn't care less about your personality, hobbies or "intelligence". In every square pub I can find old men to discuss metaphysical themes, talk about vigorous activities and have a good laugh.
No matter how hard you try, your pseudo-intellectual bullshit will never be attractive, your personality traits are a diagnosable copy of movies and your social ambient. You are incapable of great virtuous acts, you will never come to me and tell about how you risked your life for a bataillon on military training, so I can admire your qualities. The best personality trait you can have is begging to suck my dick at every morning.

Any mentally health man can see this, and those are the chads you seek for like.
You either play the game or will be forced to settle with frustrated ugly betas who are equally valuable as you, except for the fact they don't have a vagina to achieve even the basics like you did.

If you cannot communicate with them in an "interesting" way they will get bored of you. You will not have eh ability to form shared hobbies or interests.
It's like an August wanting to have super in depth conversations about trans with someone who just says "chop choo hehe" each time, not because they are not interested, but because they are psychologically so different to you that you are basically speaking a different language. You have no desire to listen to them talk because they are either boring or alien.

This is not "wow she's so interesting she likes this super niche obscure thing". It is "do you find this person engaging; stimulating".

What you're saying is "chemistry" is what makes them interesting. You are friends with your friends because they are interesting and you have "chemistry". You would not be friends with them if you were so psychologically different that you could not hold a conversation with them.

You must be able to have a friend-like relationship unless you want a purely sexual one.

>on what basis to i claim this
experience. Simply being with several men gives you first hand experience on what you prefer.
A virgin size queen is just idealized preference, she doesn't know if she can physically handle something of that size.
>What are dildos? What is porn?
If they're using dildos they may as well not be virgins.
And i think women are much more likely to have dildos and watch a lot of porn if they have sexual experience.

It's simple logic.
You asking for stats on a largely unstudied subject is unfair. You think there's studies on whether non virgins are more likely to use dildos?

>Bitch, I couldn't care less about your personality, hobbies or "intelligence". In every square pub I can find old men to discuss metaphysical themes, talk about vigorous activities and have a good lsigh

Great, but you're probably not going to share a living space with those men, have he majority of your conversations with those men, have to make plans primarily with those men, nor spend he majority of your years with them.

If you're only looking for casual sex you can disregard and have women for sex solely with no commitment, and men for friends, but if you intend to have a long term committed relationship or partnership, you will want more than a fuckslave and so will she.

>experience. Simply being with several men gives you first hand experience on what you prefer.

Isn't this a good thing? Reduces temptation to cheat down the road if she knows you're the right type for her.

>A virgin size queen is just idealized preference, she doesn't know if she can physically handle something of that size.

She can still be totally unsatisfied with you, which was the point here.

>If they're using dildos they may as well not be virgins.

Right, and the guys here with onaholes and sex dolls are not virgins.

>And i think women are much more likely to have dildos and watch a lot of porn if they have sexual experience.

Well, speaking from my experience, you're wrong. Women of all partner counts and levels of experience are fiercely inventive at getting what they want sexually. If that's not you, then you're out of luck no matter who she has or hasn't slept with.

>You asking for stats on a largely unstudied subject is unfair. You think there's studies on whether non virgins are more likely to use dildos?

I'm asking you to question your assumptions which, as you've just pointed out, have just as much basis as mine.

>unironically thinking this way

You know you can switch that pattern of thinking around too, right?

Kys retard

>Right, and the guys here with onaholes and sex dolls are not virgins.
Not the same thing at all, if you think male and female virginity are equivalent and represent the same thing you're a retard or some sort of a feminist/egalitarian so yeah; a retard

"I could not love thee, dear, so much,
Loved I not honor more."
If a man doesn't hold himself and those he cares for to his principles, that which he at his core believes to be good, true, and just, he doesn't really care for them at all becuase it means he does not believe them to be good and true. Those sort of shared principles are what true compatibility is.

>You must be able to have a friend-like relationship unless you want a purely sexual one
There are plenty of guys who would never be friends with the girls they date. And I mean that in a hypothetical sense, as in if they never dated would they like eachother and hangout.

The fact that there's sex and affection and moral support plays a huge role in why they're together. If your girlfriends personality was transferred into a males body chances are you aren't going to associate with them.
i dont buy the argument that you and your gf need to be like actual friends in order to be successful. A guy just needs to enjoy being around his gf. He doesn't need to think she's super charming, funny, interesting or entertaining. Simply her being kind, willing to have sex, emotional support and affection is enough for most guys.

I know a lot of guys who need actual time to be away from their girlfriends. Thats not how you'd treat a friend!

>Most men don't have empathy, it seems like they won't like women for who they are as people and instead want them to change to cater to their own desires as if they're objects who should build their whole lifestyle around the guy's sexual impulses.

You do realize you could switch the genders in this statement and it would be equally true if not moreso, right?

Yeah he does. Your actions reflect you as a person. If your sexual history is as long as Bill Cosbys rape charges me as a man is going to look at that and see that you are most likely not a loyal person. We all only have so many years of life and I sure as hell dont want to get hitched to. Someone I can't trust two minutes alone at the gym. So fuck off with that bullshit but not carrying.

Ask me how l know you're Jewish.

Women eternally and irrevocably BTFO!

1. Give reliable source
2. Are you saying its any difderent for men?

>Isn't this a good thing? Reduces temptation to cheat down the road if she knows you're the right type for her.
The thing is with a virgin you're more likely to be the right type for her. Virgin/1 partner marriages are the most successful for a reason.She has nothing to weigh you up or measure you too. She is less likely to be unsatisfied with you because she knows nothing else. You might not be able to give her intense orgasms and extreme pleasure, but simply making her feel good will satisfy her.

A size queen who has been with 10 other dudes, knows she gets the strongest possible orgasm with a large dick. If you're dating her and you're an average guy you'll disappoint them.

>onaholes and sex dolls aren't virgins
completely different. a virgin shoving 8 inch dildos up her pussy is literally breaking her hymen.

Unrelated
The nice part about a virgin girl is she's more likely to be forgiving if a guy is awkward or inexperienced in bed.

See men will always want to cum even if the girl they're with is bad at sex.
But women will literally be turned off and not want to have sex if a guy is too awkward.

>most humans don't have empathy
ftfy

So you're basically saying tjat everything a woman does should be in consideration of what's attractive to men? That's retarded.

Besides casual sex isn't a bad thing unless one side is being uses or abuses

Not him but it is different for men.
For some weird reason men can have a lot of sexual partners and have happy/successful marriages, but women can't.

I feel sorry for all the girls with loads of partners who didn't save themselves, and continue having casual sex. The higher that partner count rises the more likely you are to fail when you do settle down.

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Casual sex is a bad thing for a woman.
its a mark of her being easy. And no self respecting guy is going to want to settle for a girl with loads of partners. Even chads don't want that.
For a woman to get dick she simply has to be willing to fuck.
For a guy to get lots of casual sex he has to be confident, attractive, charming, and interesting.

This is the reason why male sluts really don't exist outside the gay community.
A woman should always choose wisely with who she sleeps with and try to commit herself to a relationship with them. It literally does effect your chances of a successful marriage.

>using unironically loser
>implying whore behavior is good thing
I don't think you have empathy.

>casual sex isn't a bad thing
Don't you love it when so many wyminz cry that men see them as nothing more than sex objects, but then they say that casual sex is a good thing despite the fact that the participants view each other as nothing more than sex objects?

>So you're basically saying tjat everything a woman does should be in consideration of what's attractive to men?

No, just that it's retarded to completely disregard what men like and then complain when men find you less attractive because of it.

Should be if you want to attract a quality man.
If you don't care then whatever.
Just don't expect to be happy or safe, because nearly all women are happier and safer in a long term relationship with a man.

You realize than any man who wants a quality woman has to shape his life around finding one right? Seems like you're just complaining about things everyone has to do.