Pope says no hell

Catholicism is bigger than the pope. It's built to outlive crazy progressives and stupid times.

Sometimes you need to let Jesus wash your feet.

Let that sink in.

religion is fucking retarded and basically so are you?
how?
just watch this one simple tip.

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> central dogma of the religion is "love thy neighbor"
> "Do onto others as if it's done onto you"
> "Do not judge, for you will be judged as well"
> "He who has never sinned, cast the first stone"
> "If someone strikes you on your cheek, give them the other cheek"
Are you sure christianism is the right religion for you to preach your hatted towards other people? From all religious out there, Christianity only loses to Buddhism and hippie new age in terms of peacefulness.
I'm pretty sure you'd be better off with islam or nordic paganism.

>Do onto others as if it's done to you
Stuff like this doesn't apply to masochists christians.
who chaosfag?

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>Nordic paganism
Neo-paganism*

Real paganism is dead. Only larpers now.

catholicism died the moment they failed to prevent the rise of protestinism

How the hell can you say there's no hell? Like that's their biggest selling point for people to even believe in this garbage.
The absolute state of this world.

basically yes, with a single exception: Christianity.

that's because every single religion founder claimed to teach the way to God, while Our Lord J.C. always implied He was actually God (mostly by miracles and the Resurrection, but also with other actions that the Jews of the time recognized as "only God can say such things" - this is why Jews, being JEWS, screamed at "muh blasphemy hurr durr").

Also, not all Christians are equal. Lutheranism birthed some ~17,000 different denominations (self-labeling Christian does not imply actual Christian heritage). Orthodox Churches are fully schismatic (they just forgot/mistified the Gospel teachings about Peter being the head of the Church).

The only true religion is thus Roman Catholicism; yet you may be sick of it because you have your good reasons (example: you're gay and you don't like the fact that gay people doing gay things will eventually end in the Hell).

Most people confuse peacefulness with not doing anything, or -at most- with guns not firing. That's plainly wrong. Peace is no more than a byproduct of justice.

the context of those sentences is not "how to become a true masochist faggot", but just "don't forget that justice will be applied to you as well".

for example, this is why Roman Catholicism allows - for very special cases - death penalthy, using guns for defending family and own people, and so on.

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>if it be possible, as much as is in you, have peace with all men
>if it be possible

> American Christians
Jesus it's amazing how you manage to bring guns to every topic of any conversation at all. Genuinely impressed.
No, I'm pretty sure jesus meant "do not perpetuate the never ending cycle of violence through the virtue of love and forgiveness instead of "shoot the ones that attack me". You seriously misread some important passages down there.

>The only true religion is [mine religion]
Humm yes, very convenient.

Jesus said to sell your cloak and buy a sword. Get out of here with your post modern pacifist view of Christianity.

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how convenient of you

What a stupid criticism. If you didn't think your religion is true then you wouldn't be that religions, so obviously this applies to everyone, including atheists. You could say the exact same thing to every competing philosophy or value system, secular or otherwise. I sincerely hope you don't think that's a valid criticism.

And yes, I talked about "guns" because I just wanted to see how many libtards (aka Good Goyim) I'd trigger.

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The same jesus said that if someone forcibly took your cloak (aka a robber) you should give them your robes as well. And if they took a thousand golden coins, you should give them 2. And if they slapped you in the face, you should give the other cheek up of slapping.
Good luck turning the words of one of the most peaceful men the has ever lived in history, the men who prayed for his executioners, into some sort of of Mohammed war lord.
Again, you would be better off being a Muslim. You will find it matches much more your world view.

Left jesus sounds like some muslim faggot.

>your cloak (aka a robber) you should give them your robes as well

sounds like there are still people that do not understand the difference between a command and a rhetorical figure to explain a command

>also, there are people thinking that the Bible is no more than an Operating Manual

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>Catholicism is dead

Not yet but it will be in Gods time as is spelled out in Revelation 13-19.

Friendly reminder Jesus beat jews with rope for gambling in the temple, and that he preached about eternal damn at ion for sin.

He said to pray for your enemies, he didn't say to not have enemies. It's warrior mentality, bushido code demanded something very similar from samurai. You're legitamitely a brainlet if you think Christianity means you let your entire family get raped and killed rather than defend yourself. You're the prime example of someone who can only think within their time frame and doesn't understand context or history.

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You're wrong. Jow Forums loves coloreds (not just Italians but niggers, sandniggers, and spics). Look at any Jow Forums meet up and notice their ugly subhuman skin.

Yeah you seem to be doing an amazing job following jesus steps. Hope you won't burn in hell like I will.

If a pope kisses a guy's feet he deserves to be hung. If a pope kisses a foreigner's feet he deserves incineration. If this simplicity of not being a cuck is too hardcore then religion isn't for you.

>love thy neighor
uhmm that's really broad but ok I guess that can work
>neighbor means people from beyond your culture and borders
Die.

>Revelation 13-19

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Or maybe just maybe, the bible is poorly written by syphilis ridden kikes who were practically on the verge of being demented and they kept skewing and altering Christ's episodes. That plus everyone interprets the bible differently.
You Jow Forums cucks seem to think he's more like Mohammed than Ghandi.

>everyone interprets the bible differently.
only proteshits

I'm not from Jow Forums I'm not some Sola Scriptura protestant faggot either. I'm catholic who studies the saints and understands the place of is Scripture BESIDE not ABOVE the church and the canonized saints.

Go ahead and keep trying to criticize something you've never studied and don't understand though, all it does is add more proof to the trend that critics of Christianity don't even have a basic grasp of what they're denouncing

> Trying to subvert Christianity into a war mongering faith
Again, Christianity is really not for you. Jesus expelling the merchants from the temple is practically the only time in his life where he resorted to violence. During the entirety of his pilgrimage, his message was of forgiveness and kindness amongst humans. But your likes are far more prone to remember the time where he beat jews out of a temple, than the time he saved a girl from the death penalty for mortal sin, the time he gave all his possessions to the poor, the time he multiplied food fkr the poor, or the time he begged his father to forgive the man who murdered him.
No certainly if we put every action of jesus on check, craxy war lord is more prevalent in his life rather than fair and kind prophet of love of peace, right?
You believe what you want to believe. Your god is whatever you want it to be. But if you're so fond of the biblical passage of jesus kicking jews out with a whimp, try reading the quaran. You will certainly fall in love with Mohammed.

Kinda like Jews, huh? ...

Again with this holier than thou bullshit.
>YOU HAVE NO PLACE TO QUESTION THE WORD OF GOD SMOKE AND FIRE SCARY NOISES
Eat shit Godcuck. I fight the devil everyday and I'll fight your phony god if I fucking have to.
You're just a pussy who's afraid of going to the void of purgatory anyway.

>I'm warmongering because I suggest Christianity doesn't mean pasificm or surrender

You're arguing with yourself at this point. Keep attacking your strawman, faggot.

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Very sensible words. Basically summarize everything I meant.

>I'll fight your phony god if I fucking have to.

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It's almost like you didn't quote "sell blanket to buy sword, kick the jews out by force, kill your imaginary daughter's rapist"
Are you just playing dunb right now? At least show consistency.

It might not be surrender bit if you think christ's message wasn't ultimately of peace among men you certainly skipped some very important verses down there.

>YOU HAVE NO PLACE TO QUESTION THE WORD OF GOD SMOKE AND FIRE SCARY NOISES

You have every place to question it. Questioning something requires actually understanding it though and you've already demonstrated you have no idea what christian theology is. Your criticism is "the bible is dumb" and I'm telling you that you're not even entirely wrong, but the bible is probably less than 1/4 of christian theology. We would have more common ground than you realize if you were smart enough to actually seek the truth, but instead you're fighting a shadow you don't even understand.

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According to USA Today:
>The Vatican issued a statement after the comments spread like wildfire on social media, saying the pope never granted the interview and the story was "the result of (the reporter's) reconstruction," not a "faithful transcription of the words of the Holy Father."
>Scalfari, an atheist, is known for not using tape recorders or taking notes during interviews.

Do your research. Don't fall for fake news.

usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/03/29/did-pope-francis-say-there-no-hell-not-quite-vatican-insists/470442002/

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It's almost like you started this argument by attacking someone literally talking about defending their family from murderers and twisted that unto warmongering and being against peace. Seriously, have fun with thay strawman you built

You again is pushing this "defending the family towards evil"
What if the evil comes from inside your family? What if your children commit deadly sins punishable by death under god's law, I'd like to see you preach "jesus is not about love and peace, he's about justice" then.

>theological debate on r9k
Well now I've seen everything

I have recently begun studying christianity. I am actually quite surprised by the stuff i have found out and it is becoming clear to me that the virtues of Christianity are responsible for the tenants of our society.

you are such a fucking brainlet it hurts. i hope you're just shitposting

>"jesus is not about love and peace, he's about justice"

You even put it in quotes LMAO. You're so intent on making a straw man of me, that not only are you trying to frame my argument, you're LITERALLY quoting something I didn't say.

I mean it sincerely user, have fun arguing with yourself. You've proven beyond a doubt you're intent on it and not listening to what I'm saying so enjoy yourself.

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If you say "straw man" 2 more times you actually get a free pass from this Here's your justice statement you autist. Have fun in hell, I'll be waiting for you there.

> when you're hardcore Dawkins level atheist and watch religious nuts talk about theology

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Tenants? Or did you mean tenets?

Fuck off euphoric fedora neckbeard, religous people are a 1000 times more virtuous than you.

Isn't the original idea of hell just a place without God, so your soul disappearing?

>here's the statement where you never said "jesus did not preach peace and love" that I'm quoting you as saying.
What ever you even doing anymore

Shouldn't all the sodomist rapist priests be happy to hear that there is no eternal hell awaiting them?

>libtards (aka Good Goyim) I'd trigger.
You seriously don't understand you'd be better off with just staying in Jow Forums you filthy newfag?

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fuck off to Jow Forums or some other shitboard you baiting nigger faggot who cares what some cuck says

>virtuous
But what is virtue? To what reference? According to who?

>So Catholicism is dead,
more like truth is dead.
I mean shit you'd rather believe a lie since its more amusing to you.

>virtuous
I hate when people pretend to be virtuous just so they can make papi happy and live in eternal happiness. I know a guy that just believe in god so he can live through his hentai.

To follow God without doubting him is foolish, usually the person grows disillusioned after too much of their superficial views have been challenged properly enough. Atheism comes from this. If the subject has a curious nature or is intelligent enough, they will look for answers for their faith being challenged. Agnosticism. Agnosticism brings you to the world of Theology and Philosophy, subject learns that God is far more abstract than previously thought and that while he most probably is real, he probably shouldn't be worshipped instrumentally (getting his approval) and more intrinsically (live the way he taught us to live for your own benefit).

I treat my monotheistic religion (Islam) more in a Buddhist way, Heaven and Hell are too abstract for my thinking and I will try to independently achieve Nirvana aka becoming a part of His Infinite Singularity aka Heaven.

Religion is a very abstract concept and atheists who blatantly reject it are as ignorant as blind followers.

Agnostics are on the right track but the best way is to actually settle for a religion at long last.

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God is dead. The West has lost all ties with religion. It's become a joke over there. Just a cultural get-together on Sundays with no real meaning behind it. Even the so-called "fundamentalists" don't believe in all the tenets of Christianity and don't demonstrate true faith as the Christians of the past did even a few centuries before Nietzsche noticed this developing existentialist crisis in European society.

God lives in three phases and while the Father might be dead, the Spirit is still amongst us (the Son)

>the best way is to actually do what I am conveniently doing
> The other ways are wrong
Oh, the good and old pretentiousness of believers. What would we do without it.

you are such a fucking retard

God doesn't exist. It's all human made up fantasy to deal with the absurdities of existence. The joke is that after thousands of years, Paleolithic tribes started to take it way too serious.

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this just proves men make this religious shit up. I'm sure if he said he shit gold bars from god there would be people that believed it

>implying the proposed "image" is reality
Communism proposes true equality, but we all know that is a load of shit. Christianity is a religion of gay hating, anti-woman bullshit and it always has been. Equality for all!....if you are a white Christian. If you are not, you get purged and go to hell for being inherent garbage. That is the central tennant of Christianity: that humans are inherently evil and NOTHING can change that. Only by following the cult can you hope to get out of being punished for just being human. There is no peace in that.

You do know Islam spun off of Christanity, right? It is the product of Christian teachings being warped into a religion of war by a dirty sandnigger.

live in your ignorance i don't care

>Anti-woman

How?

>source of all sin
>source of all deception
>considered property
I am not even going on some tumblr-level bullshit here. It straight up says women are scum.

No it doesn't. Women are not considered property less than men are. Just because it say things about "belonging to your husband" and "Men are the head of the household" does not mean they have literally no rights. If you whore around, men will likely not want you as someone to marry. If you cheat on your partner, you are still in the wrong. You are taking these scriptures heavily out of context.

Yes, Eve was cited to be have deceived us all into sin basically. But if the roles were reversed, it would not have any impact on the meaning of the story. It really seems like you're looking for oppression in the bible, rather than wanting to understand what is there, and why it is there.