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How do NEETs get obese anyway? Whenever I'm inactive for extended periods of time I hardly feel like eating anything.

I don't know, probably due to parents cooking really good/high calorie food or the environment I grew up in where I had to finish my plate. Also apparently has something to do with hormones, and even after losing weight you'll still feel hungrier than someone who never gained weight in the first place. Basically I grew up with tasty and high caloric food being shoved in my face and it was considered rude not to finish to plate. So I got used to it and now I eat like a dumpster. I'm surprised I don't have beetus yet.

Yeah, sure, people break out.
But there are many way wherein and degrees to which people break out.
I think there are two things that are essential to breaking out of depression: critical thinking and the right information.
You need to start asking yourself critical questions ("what do I want to do?", "who am I?", etc) and you need the right information to help answer those questions. Normally you get this information from your parents, by partaking in society, and from your friends. Sometimes that fails and you're left to figure it out on your own, which is difficult. So people reach out to others who claim they have some answers, like well-known philosophers, psychologists, gurus, etc.

I think depression can be caused purely by chemical imbalances in the brain, which can be fixed by deep brain stimulation or drugs. But I think that only applies to a minority of people. The majority of depressed people have issues that are rooted in many different areas.
I think part of the problem is due to flaws in systems of modern societies, particularly education and the job market.

Sounds rough but hopefully things get better for you. I've personally always been a fucking twig. In fact I've had several doctors tell me that I'm dangerously underweight. Still haven't gained a single pound in years, lol.

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What are some of the root causes of depression?

Why do people always assume autisms are smart?

Where does this meme come from?

Its a fucking meme.

I've been a shut-in NEET for 15 years, never had a job in my life, age 30, cant focus on multiple things at once, memory is shit, couldn't even do highschool maths, my writing is horrible, I don't know shit.

But apparently I'm autistic, so I have a 150IQ meme.

I bet the IQ difference in autisms and normies isn't even different, but some how autisms got labelled a high IQ, yeah nah, fuck off.

You're right that it's not a useful thing. To ruminate will only leave you thinking "should have" "could have" "would have" which are all shitty things to ruminate about.

I mean obesity would be worse lol, think of all the issues related to it. Circulation issues, heart issues, brain issues, etc. I guess I can't really think about how it'd be like in your shoes since I was never skinny, but I can see why it'd be an issue if you were too thin.

Thanks for the thought-out response. My parents are kind of useless in that regard, they are retired, always arguing etc. I've noticed I set aside these questions by distracting myself with video games, and when I stop playing video games I ask myself those questions - yet have no answers.

I may have a biological depression, as environmental factors seem unlikely, but I want to lose weight/get my shit in order first before I rule anything out. I've always been depressed as far as I could tell, as it's been my normal, so knowing there's another perspective really fucked with me, but we'll see I guess.

Yeah I don't know, I don't fucking feel smart. I don't act smart, I don't think smart.

Nothing I do is fucking smart. IQ means jack shit, 140 means fuck all to me if I'm a retarded NEET who's stuck in his room all day.

A lack of proper social-emotional and/or intellectual stimulation, (perceived) societal pressure, childhood issues, incorrectly developed world views and/or core beliefs, learned helplessness, poor information resources, and a lack of a properly stimulating environment.

Sometimes I re-watch the KSG kid and think he made the smart move of just ending it then and there. Just deleting himself from existence, but then I notice how if I died I wouldn't even have tried properly living, or giving life a real shot. I likely don't want to kill "myself" but my "current self", and I feel like I'm super lethargic all the time and unlikely to actually achieve that goal.

Did you study psychology or practice it?

As for all those criteria...I fit most of them. I probably learned helplessness too judging from my previous response about suicide.

Oddly enough my brother turned out just fine and we were treated the same so I don't understand how it could be environmental...

No, I haven't studied psychology. I have thought about learning about it on my own, but haven't done that really yet.
I've been to psychologists for my own issues, and because they couldn't really help me I've had to figure stuff out myself.

If you really do fit most of those criteria, it'll probably be very difficult to pull yourself out of depression without any help.
I don't have the required knowledge or experience to help you, and unfortunately I don't think there are many professionals that do either.
Any one of those criteria are very complex problems and difficult to solve.

In more applicable terms, you'd need to find and maintain relationships with people with whom you can connect and share things with. You'd need to find something to do that captures your interest and gives you energy, ideally something that sustains you financially. You'd need to find other interests or activities ("diversify"). You'd need to find the reasons behind your fears, aggression, reluctance, procrastination, and other negative feelings and behaviors, so you can address them. You'd need to take care of your body by sleeping, eating, and exercising well, and getting outside enough.
While these are all basic things that anyone can tell you you should do, putting it to practice can be very difficult if the normal societal system doesn't make this easy for you.

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Holy shit this is me except for:
> dont brush teeth or make bed
> become obese

That's fucking disgusting.

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What I can recommend is for you to look these things up.
There's a lot of information on depression especially available on the internet.
What I've found is best is getting your information from a combination of official sources (goverment instutions, universities, professionals), unofficial sources (articles, blogs, gurus, self-help specialists), and anecdotal sources (forums, chats, and even memes).
Talking with family or friends can also help, but it's more risky as it can also work aversely.
You might also want to look up "existential depression".

I mean I brush intermittently, like mostly mornings, not nights. Bad habits I guess.

As for obesity, I'm more overweight than obese, not talking absolute unit here. But fat, and according to the charts in the obese range.

But yeah, I know it's disgusting and I myself am disgusted. It may sound like harsh criticism, but you know what you're right. It is disgusting. What I'm becoming is disgusting.
I try then get distracted and can't sit through anything for longer than like 10 minutes. I don't know why either.

I'm glad to hear man.

Will do, I guess I just lack information.

>I guess I just lack information.
This applies to a lot of people, and it's why I wrote in my earlier post that these kinds of problems are caused in part by flaws in the educational system.
I think awareness and education are critical.

>I try then get distracted and can't sit through anything for longer than like 10 minutes. I don't know why either.
Depression affects brain structure and development.
Long-term depression can negatively affect areas in the brain that are responsible for (adherence to) planning, and it can affect the dopamine reward system.
It's possible for someone to not be able to concentrate on most things for more than a few minutes because of their depression.
Furthermore, I think there's often the (subconscious) idea that whatever you're trying to do isn't really what you want to do, but something you do that "may help".
It's a bit comparable to people exercising "because the doc said so" or because they enjoy their sport / exercise activity.

That is exactly what it feels like. I jump interests and motivation levels all the time. Nothing sticks and my longterm planning is MIA. As for dopamine, nothing gives me pleasure. Even jerking it just feels mechanical and means to an end. I speculated that if I were to abstain from heavy dopaminergic actions for a while I may be able to resensitize the pathways.

>I speculated that if I were to abstain from heavy dopaminergic actions for a while I may be able to resensitize the pathways.
Yes, I think that's possible.
But this can be very dangerous as well.
If you're (severely) depressed and you take away the more simple dopaminergic pleasures, you can become suicidal because there isn't anything to life for anymore.
Only jerking off once or twice a week and eating less junk food can positively influence your dopamine reward system, but if you go to the extreme it can end badly.

Good point. I will try to just eat right for now and see if it helps. May be some gastrointestinal issue causing a feedback loop. Eat bad. Feel bad. Eat bad to feel better. Etc.

If you're overweight, I recommend taking a walk every day, preferably when the sun's out.
You can listen to music, audiobooks, or podcasts if you take a longer walk.
A short but distraction-free (no phone or other device) walk can help too, in a way a bit similar to meditation, to collect your thoughts.

I will try this out and go for a short then longer walks.

Man, if you're so knowledgeable but afraid of risk, why wouldn't you try putting everything on the line at least once before an heroing?

You know I've asked myself the same question. It's because I know an heroing is not a solution to my problem. It merely removes everything including the good.

Granted if I was in a situation with no other ways out apart from suicide then yes, all assets I would own could be thrown into a roulette table gamble, not like I'd be using them, same with my body/corpse.

But at that point even if I won billions, it would make little difference as I would be an heroing anyways and money wouldn't likely solve all my issues.

That's not to say money is not an important tool. It is and is necessary.

So if it ever comes to the point where you have your finger on the trigger maybe just try that first, and buy some shit you always thought about, for curiosity's sake. Maybe a little bit of humanities oldest vice can pick up your spirits enough for you to try something new and different. There are lots of possibilities when you open your mind to them, but sadly for a lot of suicide victims they only start to when it's too late to turn back. Even suffering is worth existence, many will find

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