Do schizoids ever get lonely? They're highly antisocial of course...

Pretty much this. Being alone is always fine, but it's lonely not having people who you care about/care about you.

Similar case here. I don't give a shit what anyone has to say or think in real life, but in my little fantasies I feel intense empathy with the people that exist in my daydreams.

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>"Congratulations on X and Y!"

I wish they'd leave me alone, I never really even know how to respond. I just say "thanks" but it always feels so forced.

What does existential loneliness feel like?

Diagnosed schizoid here,
I am chronically lonely but social contact doesnt give me anything except discomfort so the loneliness isnt resolved by being social. Then the feeling of chronic loneliness over the years morphs to a feeling unindefiable as loneliness so schizoids think theyre not lonely.

>Then the feeling of chronic loneliness over the years morphs to a feeling unindefiable as loneliness so schizoids think theyre not lonely.
What does it morph into? What's it feel like at that stage? Could that be the "existential loneliness" that refers to?

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Not him, but I don't think so. Existential ruminations are probably unrelated, and they're the source of cognitive existential loneliness.

Actually I don't even know.

If you suspect that you're a schizoid is there any reason to get a diagnosis? It's not like there's anything they can do to help, and it just adds a personality disorder to your record.

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Is it possible to be mentally healthy and still never get lonely

Because I'm pretty sure I'm mostly mentally healthy, and I never get lonely

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Schizoidbucks are possible in some select few countries and you could get cheap mind-altering drugs from it.

For me the drive to socialize is not there. It's like, needing to eat but not feeling hunger.

I know that I need to socialise in order not to feel shitty but I have to put concious effort into it.

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You're not alone user, it's really hard for me to say something even if I'm behind a nickname or completely anonymous

I guess thats an appropriate word. For me its the feeling of something missing but I dont know what.

Normies:
>Puts on various masks around people so that they can always see the best side of them. When they "take off the mask" then they are around friends who they can be themselves with.
Schizoids:
>Puts on various masks around people because there's pretty much nothing underneath the mask. When they "take off the mask" around others they become little more than soulless husks in the eyes of normies.

I feel like pic related all the time

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Not diagnosed but fairly sure im schizoid.

Every other time im not busy im fantasizing. Even sometimes when im busy I start fantasizing. Aboht the loneliness part well once you take the black pill loneliess becomes your friend almost like a tulpa. Like you know how people jokingly say "oh alcohol is my best friend it'll never abandon me", well for me its the same but unironically

Have you guys read Ronald Laing? What you're saying is similar to what he's written about.

Did any of you cry publicly as children? If you were hurt, or otherwise?

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No, I rarely cry. The only thing that really can get me to cry is close tragedy, such as a family member dying or me finding out my mom has cancer.

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undiagnosedpossible schizoid with no friends here, the only time i get lonely is when i'm camping alone. any other time, i'm fine having no close relationships, but something about being so disconnected off in the woods brings the loneliness to the surface, where i can actually feel it. but even after i go back to civilization, i still don't have any desire to form any relationships

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>be schizoid (went to psychologist for years, aunt an hero'd because schizophrenia and literally got raped by her father, abusive/neglecting parent had maybe a total of like 4 birthday gifts in my life, it's hilarious I've had a friend whose given me more, literally abused by a sibling)
So do schizoids get lonely?
Short answer: they do not feel the need to be with others just as you do not feel the need to feel happy in life to keep living, does that mean being lonely doesn't fill them with melancholy... no
I've met a fair amount of schizoid people (legitimately hilarious how unsociable and misfit group up so easily when it's with people like them) and here's a few conclusion I've drawn:
1.Want to be with other people, won't even say or think it though but definitely will look more miserable and less happy as time move on social contact becomes more scarce
2.Most of the time got bullied, abused and in general will very often find fictional characters more interesting, also catch themselves deep in thought about social relationship they do have or could have.Odds are if they like you they've probably thought about you longer than you actually spent time with them. Very confusing because it make any attempt at social interaction unpredictable as they've basically thought of this already likely.
3.Will have absolutely no problem confessing half of their life to strangers but will refuse to even say what's their favorite color to even the closest of people. Distance is safety, Intimacy is Danger to them.
4.Stress tends to have a paralyzing effect for them.
5.Want to feel part of a group but do not actually wish to interact with other people, the kind of people who want to not be alienated in the group but don't want to do anything within it.
6.Like most people, feel very comfortable when they feel like they're alone, most likely moment they'll actually open up is if you're a stranger or if you're alone with them and they're not facing you directly.
cont?

All the time, i couldnt hold it. In front of my classroom when i thought i was being mistreated by teachers, in front of my family when my brother was fucking with me., in front of the classroom when i shat myself.

>cont?
Please do, this is both strongly relatable and a great psychoanalysis.

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>in front of the classroom when i shat myself.
greentext?

I interpret loneliness as a boredome. I dont long for any companionship but rather feel like im somehow missing out on the entertaiment it could bring. Funny thing i didnt even think i needed friends until i started watching anime. But friendship is kind of fake like love is. So i guess i just like the romanticized idea of it, but i could never be part of it.

is there any way to get mentally evaluated anonymously, or at least without it going down in some cia nigger file?

>4degreez.com/misc/personality_disorder_test.mv
It's not an official evaluation, and please try not to exaggerate because far too many people end up with almost every single personality disorder on the list when they take it.

thx for support, kindda hard for me though I have come to some conclusion whilst self-introspecting I feel anybody like me would enjoy/benefit from.
7.Very susceptible to develop chunnibyou type personalities (Yes I fucking have i'll explain why this is actually an efficient coping method in a few posts)
8.Will somehow find themselves losing friends simply by not being courageous enough or interesting enough to talk to them after long periods of time, will remember them afterward and feel like shit for letting em go.
9.Will self-loath despite loving themselves mostly because people told them they're shit so fucking much it's basically a thought so well internalized at this point they can't fucking get rid of it. Even if other people love them will doubt the validity of other people's feeling before thinking of themselves as lovable.
10. Over analysis and Self-introspection generally happen when they feel down or try to find what's wrong with them, odds are they won't find shit but sometimes do.
11.Fantasies will come directly from an aspect of life they do not like though will also be there to distance themselves from life to find comfort, E.g: dream of being closer to someone or having social contact but somehow will enjoy the fact this is fantasy because it's both here to distract themselves from the actual problem (in this example that they want affection) whilst also providing a false sense comfort and achievement. Even though they do that all the time and Self-introspect lot I've yet to see someone Schizoid actually have the brain to realize their Day-dreaming literally correlate with what they want deep down and that they should take actual action in the real world to get what they want.
12.Discard helps, rationalize it however they can no matter what "I don't want to bother you","You're not helping","It doesn't matter anyhow","Can't be helped", "It's hopeless" and "It's just the way I am".
cont?

Sort of. Never really noticed it until I got a GF for a few months.

After we broke up I do recognize when I'm lonely and avoid using any substances while alone whist experiencing it. It only ever can manifest when I can't properly mentally engage with whatever hobby or project I'm working on.

>4th grade
>live in shithole third world with toilet like pic related
>out in the front yard attending weekly school meeting
>wanted to take a shit
>keep holding it because i didnt want to go to the toilet
>its been a hour now, i felt dizzy and my friend told me i looked green
>couldnt hold it anymore, had to go
>as soon as i was 3 feet from the toilet i shat all over myself
>hid in toilet to check
>theres no toilet paper and flies everywhere
>i just used my hand to wipe away all the shit on my butts and pants, smear it on the wall
>stupid enough to return to where i sat earlier, of course seconds later there were people noticing the smell
>"holy shit user shat himself"
>i started crying there, until the teacher had to bring my shit ridden ass to my house on his scooter
The good thing is that no one ever reminds me of this ever again, at least not yet

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internet schizoids are the same as internet asexuals - they only selectively have 'symptoms' when it's convenient to make them feel cool for 'not caring'

i don't really trust the meme test because i get different results every time i take them. i want to get a full psych eval but i don't want to be put on kike pills or something against my will

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christ man, are you indian?

There's literally no point to getting a diagnosis for possible schizoid PD if you're in the USA, it is unfixable and they don't give you drugs or anything. The only reason you'd ever get the diagnosis is if you're in a European nation that gives you NEETbux for a diagnosis.

It's not uncommon, I recall one of the definitions of schizoid has loneliness as a symptom.

For me it seems to be an inability to connect emotionally with people. It's not something that social interaction will alleviate, so for the longest time I didn't even recognize the emotion as loneliness.
Either way, without this emotional connection there's not really a point in social interaction. Fantasy does a better job at filling this need.

That's just my experience though and I'm not actually diagnosed, so I'm probably talking out of my ass

no, its a bit better here i think. The dumbest thing is that the teachers toilets are always clean and modern while the students have to use this primitive, cave man garbage.

agreed please continue

iruginal

Actually true to a degree i'll explain why.
13. this ties in with point 12, not actually aware they can change and still remain "themselves", very autistic in this regard, will frequent the same places over and over and do the same shit over and over expecting themselves and the world to change,in 8 words : Do not actually know the definition of insanity.
14.Do the things they want to truly do. As far as stress and anticipation paralyze them they're not unable to do things and somehow will actually respect deadlines (give or take a few hours, often give).This is true also in a relationship, they're unpredictable and if they want something they'll probably ask or do it given enough desire for it, will require long preparation to psyche themselves up though.
15.Will tell you to go away at some point claiming it's not because of you but because of them, even if they fucking like you and want to spend time with you. This is one that few people can get their heads around, moods works in mysterious ways this is especially frequent when you try to get closer but it's too close for comfort for them, this happen even if they made a move to be closer before you and it's fully contradictory with what they want, they don't mind invading other people's space emotionally, god forbids others do it tho. This can lead to misunderstandings.
16.Will think of an hero, never will actually pull it off though, somehow realize life is worth living whilst also having suffered through all of it, never lose hope because they're fucking day-dreaming dreamers and always want to believe somehow things will magically become good all of a sudden, if shit gets bad they'll push suicide aside because "hey it's too late for that now"

17.About as scary as a force of nature when motivated, never gets motivated though.Pure untapped potential, high raw energy don't know what to do with it other than switch hobbies every 2 month, and those hobbies aren't even related to each others or actually useful or cool.Like to name only a few example you'll see them watching random vids on YT, picking up tabletops, getting random interests in history and war/weaponry or anime.You'll never see them old those hobbies for long though and if they do it'll be way less present in your discussion with them and way less present in their thought than before, like acquiring sporadic knowledge of stuff that's barely important.
18.They wants to be understood and to understand others, barely understand themselves in the first place though.This is probably my n1 protip for all of you out there fucking analyze your every moves, correlate with that of others, try to guess what you're doing right and wrong, actually put yourself into question without bashing yourself with self-loathing on the way. If you know yourself better everything gets easier.
19.They put in more effort in understanding others than themselves,prone to minor stalking. Turns out this doesn't work because if you don't know yourself you can't guess what's wishful thinking and what isn't, like what's the fucking use of trying to find out if that girl likes you because she spent time with you or didn't break eye contact a few times and made that random encounter with you if you're too much of a dull cunt to realize sometimes it's all in your fucking head and you're fantasizing a few random encounters, if you can guess what's just your wishful thinking and flawed perception of reality and what's actually real you've actually made a pretty decent step to come back closer to reality, you probably don't want to do it tho but remember, what hurt the most is not how reality is but how your flawed expectations and perception turn it into disappointment.

during the avpd stage yes alot. but now rarely and if i do it's more like ''hmm some company would be nice now.''

btw Anybody want me to cont or want to comment on any point or ask reasoning/experience behind it?
Like i'm doing this for you guys as much as myself, I think it's more fun if there's some interaction in this thread.

schizoids kys

I feel lonely sometimes that no one seems to relate to me. I have a friend who is really emotional and while I try to give them useful advice they never know what to say to me. I just wish I knew someone who felt the same way about things.

there is nothing to say that would make you feel better, due to being a shizoid and all

As far as I know socializing is biologically necessary to remain not depressed. I'm not schizoid, but I have similar feelings where I wish I didn't have to do it for my well being but there's no denying my baseline mood declines over time if I wall myself up in my apartment.