Friendly reminder that you are simply a pawn of normie modernity if you are not a traditionalist and you CANNOT claim to be a robot because really you are just a normie who is annoyed that he has been screwed by other normies.
The following things are unacceptable and degenerate:
>Drug use
>Intoxication
>Atheism
>Cross dressing, including females wearing trousers
>Fornication
>Oral and anal sodomy
>'''Equality'''
>Feminism
>Republicanism (as in anti-monarchy)
If you don't grow all your own food you are fucking normie.
Homesteading is where it's at.
>traditionalism
Hahahahh, stop being such a massive faggot, user. Enjoy postmodernity.
>Homesteading is where it's at.
Quite possibility true to be honest.
Enjoy normieden
>>Atheism
Fedoras who pretend they're Christian just to fit in with the Jow Forums crowd are the lowest of the low.
You're a shitty poseur.
You will never have a traditional family.
Your ideas of good society are based on facades and imagery. You don't understand what tradition is.
I'm not really a Jow Forums guy and I'm not going to try to prove the sincerity of my faith to you, believe what you want to.
I never have used a drug, except for caffeine when I was younger. I've since stopped taking it. As for intoxication, boy do I love a good beer. I could drink about three in a week. Atheism? Well, I don't necessarily think that there's definitely no being that's above humans. Frankly, I'd like to believe that there are gods out there. Nothing Abrahamic of course. I certainly don't cross-dress lol. I wouldn't mind a tomboy girl wearing pants, but nothing like something distinctively male like a tux where it's just weird. I'd fornicate any day and my standards are basically: don't have a disease and don't be hideous. Never have been too big on anal, I think it's gross and pointless considering the better hole is right next to it. But oral? I'll eat a pussy. I'll have my dick sucked. That'd be fucking great.
"Equality" doesn't exist because different things can't be equal by definition. I'm not a feminist and I think that feminists are supremely stuck up and overconfident and it bugs me when I interact with them. Empires are the best and I'd definitely live in one. It's just the right amount of authoritarianism
>Empires are the best and I'd definitely live in one. It's just the right amount of authoritarianism
I'm not saying I disagree but that is a separate issue from republic/monarchy, there have been many very authoritarian and in some cases imperial republics and there have been liberal kingdoms.
I'm thinking of something like the Tokugawa shogunate
I'm an imageboard trad. ZOMG post feet and dick, please.
Stateless caveman egalitarianism is the basis for all other traditional concepts, but we can go even further up to microorganic ancestors and asexual procreation
Also you're a faggot larper OP
Stateless caveman egalitarianism is the basis for all other traditional concepts,
'Tradition' isn't just the oldest thing possible, tradition must be built up to exist in the first place. More importantly tradition isn't good because its old, its good in contrast to modernity.
I'm more or less a 1688 monarchist.
>Tradcucks still trying to make this reality thing work
Good luck i'm neeting it up so both you and normalfags have to pay for me.
I grew out of the traditionalism meme, I used to agree with people like evola, guenon, mishima, have their books in my collection. Then I realised I was a massive hypocrite and was living a contradictory life, the last thing I want to live in is a rigorous, hierarchical and stagnate society based on literal feels>reals and moral faggotry.
But I mean, I agree with the fact consumerism is gay, but that's really it.
fuck but i'm an atheist and i'm fine with women wearing jeans
>literal feels>reals and moral faggotry.
I'm not advocating Evola style traditionalism and all the things in my list are objectively bad.
> Then I realised I was a massive hypocrite and was living a contradictory life
It would be incredibly silly for you to start pretending that cheesecake is good for you because you are unable to stop eating it.
Wow you took the words outta my mouth. But really, that's what you expect from people who actually take fashwave seriously.
The traditional role for women has been cooking, cleaning, and childrearing. What would you say the traditional role for men is? Also what are all the things should a traditional man be doing/know how to do?
I really want to be masculine and traditional. Not a manchild soyboy.
>I'm not advocating Evola style traditionalism and all the things in my list are objectively bad.
not really, a lot of what you listed isn't ethically intrinsically evil, some are neutral and others I directly benefit from. Also, most of the Traditional School do agree with Evola, pre Enlightenment implicates a lot of things, a lot of them realising that even Christianity is a-traditional and a-european since history is extremely broad and vast and things are older and more traditional than Christianity.
>start pretending that cheesecake is good for you because you are unable to stop eating it.
this is going to be crude, but the partner I love giving me a blowjob doesn't hurt me, it's a false equivalency and you can't really compare them since one does have negative connotations, and the other doesn't.
If I had to choose any other point in history to live that has come to pass, I'll always choose today. "Equality" is objectively good for the average person and I benefit from Liberalism.
>Never used drugs or alcohol.
>Don't use porn or fap.
>Racist as fuck.
>Can actually build and fix things.
>Healthy workouts.
>Going to start homesteading soon since I already bought the land.
Feels good not being a degenerate.
Well first a note on women, the 'traditionalism means all women should be house wives' thing is a bit of a meme. Only societies with a lot of wealth can afford for 50% of the population to only work in the home. The traditional role of women does include those things you listed but realistically most women have to work to some extent, the difference that their first job should be raising the family well work is the man's first job. Sex segregated work is also a good thing but in modern society we have little control over that. With all that said if you can afford it is probably better for a woman to be a house wife if you can afford it.
As for being a man that is a bit broad, is there anything in particular you are referring to? Providing for you're family is your main job.
>If I had to choose any other point in history to live that has come to pass, I'll always choose today
Are you sure you every seriously delved into reactionary thought? Pretty much the most basic foundational principal is that the social problems of modernity are being masked by technological (and economic) advancement. I'm very grateful that I'm not going to get paralyzed for life by polio but the absence of that doesn't have a great deal to do with the 700k yearly abortions in the USA.
>"Equality" is objectively good for the average person and I benefit from Liberalism.
What sort of equality? That word is meaningless.
You benefit from the technological and economic advancements since the industrial revolution, not the bourgeois post 1918 political ideals.
>blowjob doesn't hurt me,
Anal sodomy is literally physically harmful so its good you didn't pick that one but that is really besides the point. A single occurrence of oral sex is not really going to cause any serious harm, obvious, but that occurrence doesn't make any sense if it isn't viewed in the light of the broader sexual revolution which certainly has caused very much harm to many people.
>to do with the 700k yearly abortions in the USA
of course I'm not just regarding technological and scientific progress, basic social progress as well. in terms of liberty, life and creative expression, and stability, right now at this very moment is superior to any kind of hierarchical serfdom to an emperor or an institution ruled by lords with strict ethical and moral regulations. Of course modernity suffers problems, like all periods of history and all political and economic systems, but that doesn't prevent us from making the necessary steps to stop it.
Like slavery, for example.
>What sort of equality? That word is meaningless.
You said equality in your original post, I can only assume you mean liberty, equality and fraternity. The fact an aristocrat born into power, or a man belonging to a certain religious institution, has no greater privilege over the courts and can't silence me or stop my creative/political expression in life is the benefits of modernity manifest. the fact I don't have to slave away for a lord all my life under the guise is pretty good too.
>if it isn't viewed in the light of the broader sexual revolution which certainly has caused very much harm to many people.
has it? could you provide evidence that the sexual revolution caused harm? I wonder what you mean by that, since I don't see how.
>has it? could you provide evidence that the sexual revolution caused harm? I wonder what you mean by that, since I don't see how.
I am again highly skeptical that you have delved into reactionary thought in any serious sense, that is of stuff that has been written since the 1930s.
High divorce rates, single parenthood, STDs and the previously mentioned abortion just to name a few.
A high number of sexual partners is highly correlated with high divorce rates. Any society before 1900 would have found a 20% divorce rate to be insanely high when today that would be considered low.
>You said equality in your original post,
I said '''equality.''' Are you are right, no one is going to try to ruin your life for being a liberal, because society is controlled by liberals. Teach your dog a nazi salute on the other hand, or hold marginally conservative views like firefox's old CEO and you'll see 1840s England was probably more liberal in the real sense of that word.
>Drug use
>Intoxication
give me one reason why not
>Atheism
jew
>Cross dressing, including females wearing trousers
yeah, that's gay
>Fornication, Oral and anal sodomy
taking it in the ass is gay too, but the other two are fun
>'''Equality'''
yeah, that's gay
>Feminism
also gay
>Republicanism (as in anti-monarchy)
fuck your king. The fact nobody listens to him nowadays shows he wasn't as holy as you got jewed into believing. Fuck democracy too though, anarchy is best.
True robots live in small tribes in the wild, making a living by eating wild animals and plants, and by raiding other tribes. Prove me wrong.
>tfw no virgin traditional Christian gf to get married with by 25 and have a large family with
It fucking hurts, I wish I was married or at least with someone who seemed mairrage material
>Well first a note on women, the 'traditionalism means all women should be house wives' thing is a bit of a meme. Only societies with a lot of wealth can afford for 50% of the population to only work in the home. The traditional role of women does include those things you listed but realistically most women have to work to some extent, the difference that their first job should be raising the family well work is the man's first job. Sex segregated work is also a good thing but in modern society we have little control over that. With all that said if you can afford it is probably better for a woman to be a house wife if you can afford it.
>As for being a man that is a bit broad, is there anything in particular you are referring to? Providing for you're family is your main job.
Basically what specific skills and actions should I do? Women work too nowadays. I understand you mean work is men's primary role, but isn't there more than that? Even soyboys go to work.
Do I need to know how to mow the lawn and do it? Know how to fight? etc. Just all the specific things like women knowing cooking and cleaning, etc.