how stupid do you have to be to be a virgin? You can't even work out how to get a single girl to be willing to fuck you??
I'm not talking about the people with disabilities or physical disfigurements. I mean most of you able-bodied, normal guys who have lived your whole lives and STILL haven't worked out how to seduce a single girl
You don't even have to be a chad.. just don't be a weird cunt and a manlet
Christian Ramirez
yea pretty much but I mean at 25 what's even the point anymore might as well just get used to it
Aiden Flores
I've got my vidya and porn so i'm good
Ayden Robinson
It's too late, I'm 28.
>dat lyrical flow.
Tyler Hill
chadfags are forbidden on this board
Jackson Cook
Here's the thing, some of us ARE able to fuck girls, but we autistically want to just do things with the girl we love and refuse to just fuck some random girl if we don't have feelings for her. Some of us can do it, but we're just THAT autistic.
Elijah Clark
I'm pretty fucking stupid but I'm a virgin because I'm a coward and I've never tried in my 20 years of life. Probably never will.
Parker Gonzalez
i dislike this post but i am a stupid loser so you're right at some level.
Jordan Turner
I lost my virginity to a femanon I met on /soc/. Crazy but sex was amazing. We dated for a while.
Nathaniel Hernandez
I'm afraid of women
Colton Garcia
It's gone. My optimism and self-esteem. They don't exist anymore. I got a new job and there's this cute girl that I know, in past times, when I still had hope, I would crush on her. But I'm not.
I can't imagine a girl liking anything about my existence. I'm definitely going to an hero some time in the future. Will try to stream.
Nolan Thomas
>Went to all-male high school age 14-18 >Join military infantry age 18-22 >Spend weeks or months at a time segregated from female contact while training/deployed >Since leaving the military i've work exclusively male professions that occur in isolated locations(commercial fishing, oilrig roughneck, private security contractor) >Be a shut in while not out working, sometimes living frugally off my savings and playing vidya for a year at a time >Now a 28 year old virgin.
I haven't had social contact with girls/women since i was in 8th grade 14 years ago.
you're the idiot for thinking that sex is even remotely a worthwhile pursuit. probably i could get laid if i tried but it's not worth the trouble so why bother.
Lucas Harris
You sound like a cool dude i wanna get drunk with you.
Carson Gutierrez
I lost my virginity 3 weeks ago at age 25 maintain hope
Eli Wood
lol sex is awesome dude. and I don't even try to have sex. I get it whenever I hang out with my girlfriend.
I can do everything you can and have sex you morooooon.
Bentley Ramirez
how stupid do you have to be to think that you attract women because of your intelligence and not because of the appearance you were born with?
Chase Ward
>le bait >ur stoopid! haha! >im 12 yeers old
Caleb Richardson
>and a manlet I failed the moment I was born.
Jeremiah Hernandez
I just don't want to fuck the whale or the chick with aspergers that doesn't know it's time to stop talking
they're all I can find or get to talk to me
Levi Clark
>Bragging about having sex >On fucking R9K You can stop trying to compensate. We know you are just like us.
Connor Torres
on the contrary. I haven't been like you for 7 years.
David Moore
You need to want sex to get it. That's pretty much it. Most guys here are virgins because they're unmotivated and/or don't want to settle with a girl who is as unattractive as they are.
Austin Butler
>a cool dude i wanna get drunk Fuck off normalfag
Asher Diaz
I'm a manlet (about 5'6) and I've had sex with roughly 60 women, as well as having several long term relationships
Ayden Butler
And yet you still hangout here
Evan Barnes
why is are you afraid of women? For me this is a weird concept.
Jeremiah Cox
to this point, not all women are sexy, even if they look good. i've had moments where i was around women i could have fucked, but they were complete boner kills for whatever reason.
Thomas Cook
I like shitposting on this site occasionally lol. Actually I generally don't even visit Jow Forums, mainly /tv/ or /mu/, but sometimes check out other boards out of curiosity
Hunter Ortiz
jokes on you I still have the autism excuse.
are you fucking retarded OP? only brainlets are getting laid.
i'm good at conversation and got plenty of friends, male or female. thing is i'm not a douche and am ugly so not enough for sex. i don't brag about what i dont have and try to bring attention on me.
Angel Smith
I have had several girls try to fuck. But I have severe intimacy issues and always run away.
Ive only fucked 2 girls at 19 years old and never had a healthy relationship even though I look pretty good and try to be easy going and interesting, so I can see why below average guys could fail to get laid altogether.
Chase Moore
I'm afraid of disappointing them. I have a lot of mommy issues.
Wyatt Kelly
I should learn that noble art of your, that's sound healthy regardless how autistic it might sounded
Lucas Carter
based antinatalism poster
James Mitchell
I'm aware that I was born with a shitty hand with crap genetics and a broken personality. I could play this hand over and over and maybe someday get a gf and bring her along for a shaky short lived relationship but honestly at 28 why bother? I'm so behind in relationship/sexual experience that theres not a point in starting now as I missed out on the fun times and now I can only ever hope to be regulated to beta provider status.
I have a small penis that was only 4 inchs in highschool so I coudlnt lose it now its 6 inchs and I still cant lose it because its now too late to gain a social reputation to build a social circle to get girls so I have accepted I will be a virgin forever and kill myself before Im 25 all because of my small penis. God I hate my dick so much ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR I COULD HAVE BEEN NORMAL I COULD BEE ABLE TO RELATE TO OTHER GUYS BUT FUCKING HELL I HAD TO BE BORN WITH THIS DICK.
Kayden Murphy
Presence and absence of benefit both being true in existence is a contradiction.
Ex falso quodlibet.
Sort your chart out.
Brody Morales
>just remembered I'm 31 and I've never put my pens inside a woman
The chart only asks if the condition is possible. The total absence of benefit is lying on your death bed or alternatively a newborn starving to death, if you want a life entirely characterized by its absence of benefit.
Ayden Green
Its not even worth it anymore. I don't want to stick my dick in a cave that has taken a hundred other dicks. I wanna take a girl, timid and inexperienced, then make her experience me. I'd have her grow into my own little pleasure, exclusive to me and give her whatever she wants.
Gabriel Brown
>youre all just normal guys
Hahahhahahhahah
Nolan Jones
>tfw I'm 6'4" >but also a weird cunt who is so strange that, coupled with my height, I'm intimidating to others Sex is a big meme anyways. Sticking your wing wong in a vagoo is gross and proves only that you've succumbed to societal pressure. True self satisfaction comes from within. Are you content with your life merely because you conform and fit in, or because you live how you choose to? >inb4 "virgin coep lul xDDDd" Enjoy your sheep lifestyle normalfag.
Jeremiah Cook
First off the chart isn't asking anything. It's a chart.
Secondly the newborn starving to death isn't a life characterized by an absence of benefit. Things can always be worse if they exist.
The chart is definitely ex falso quodlibet because it is easy to show how something cannot be true and false at the same time:
Let me explain. If that baby exists for any period of time and is suffering, then that time period being shorter than it possibly could have been is a benefit.
To not have a benefit be possible you would need a time period of zero, aka nonexistence.
A and ~A cannot both be the case.
Mason Davis
The problem is when you grow up thinking women are delicate flowers and put them on a pedestal when in reality they're just dumb sex driven animals like niggers.
Ryan Smith
>don't be a manlet FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE YOU DONT KNOW HOW HARD IT IS BEING 5'7" AND HAVING ASSBURGERS AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME
Most adult virgins usually just has way too inflated standards, and often will think more highly of themselves than they should. So you got a guy who thinks he's a 6/10 asking out a 6/10 girl. But he's really a 3/10 and the girl is an 8/10
Nicholas Miller
Put a header for your goddamn chart if it's asking a question.
No fun involved. I'm the robotic kind of robot. I do what I do out of a compulsive need to point out bad logic where I see it. That's why I'm here.
Actually, I'm also fatter, have worse teeth, and probably worse vision than >your picture. No lisp though, thank god.
Tyler Gutierrez
>weird cunt i have autism so im a weird cunt by design
Adam Price
I think asking girls out is creepy. And also my only social interaction is with other people in my career so it would be unprofessional.
James Scott
And that's not a good thing
Luke Martin
what if the virgin in question has never asked out any girl?
Nolan Lopez
also you are a reddit spacing faggot
Angel Howard
Once a girl sat on my lap and put her arm around me and it literally never crossed my mind until two full days later that that meant "I want sum fuck". Autism, it's a hell of a drug.
Aiden White
at least you joined the military, more chad than a lot of people here
Kayden Miller
Manlet here, even I've gotten laid multiple times. It's really not that hard, just don't chase Stacies.
Isaiah Wood
What brought you to r9k?
original question
Asher Lee
For a world with at least one personal being at a moment in the immediate future and a world with no such beings in the immediate future, are the following conditions possible?
Any presence of Harm?: Existence: Yes, some amount of harm will exist necessarily non-existence: No, harm is impossible
Total absence of Harm?: Existence: No, there must be at least some harm in the form of will as it manifests in its most basic forms of wants, needs, and impuleses non-existence: Yes, there is necessarily a total absence of harm
Any presence of benefit?: Existence: Yes, many harms will be ameliorated by a proportional degree of benefit non-existence: No, benefit is impossible
Total Absence of Benefit?: Existence: Yes, a newborn can starve to death. Its also worth noting that in every life there is a moment where the utilitarian record is given over to the condition of a total absence of benefit. There is a moment when a man is on his deathbed that he will experience no further proportional benefit to the harms he is experiencing. This cannot be said for the condition of the presence of benefit. The presence of benefit cannot be the final condition of personal being non-existence: Yes, the absence of benefit is necessary
That's how the chart works.
Austin Hall
I have never used reddit. I ended up typing like that because I wrote on /qst/ for too long. I really have no idea where to do the spacing at when I'm typing and typically just separate complete thoughts or try to lead into things. Thank's for making me aware of it though, I'm always happy for a chance to self analyze.
Luis Morales
Couldn't figure it out either. Never chased girls in my entire life and I still wound up in relationships and casual hookups.
How small are we talking? Women will fuck women and they don't have penises at all.
Oliver Hernandez
I appreciate you writing all that out but I disagree with this premise.
>Yes, a newborn can starve to death. Its also worth noting that in every life there is a moment where the utilitarian record is given over to the condition of a total absence of benefit. There is a moment when a man is on his deathbed that he will experience no further proportional benefit to the harms he is experiencing.
For anything capable of benefit there can never be an absence of it. Things can always be worse in some capacity, be it timing, intensity, duration, even meta-qualities like the humorous or ironical ironical aspects. The only way this would be untrue is if things actually existed in discrete quantities, but in existence they don't.
Thanks for your time.
Nolan Cook
5'6 Could be worse. Already in a relationship and I'm certain I'll never have to date again.
James Torres
I think most guys have had an opportunity to have sex before only they didn't realize it or shied away from it.
Some girls probably think that never been touched or kissed stuff is cute or am I wrong? Like them being romantically and sexually inexperienced is endearing or do they all want a man with 20 notches on his belt? I am not entirely sure I don't want virgins to give up hope
Isaac Gonzalez
well back when I was in school were it happened prob 5 inches, but I'm overweight and a smoker now so it's like 4 atm problem was some fucker pulled down me pants on the school yard during winter and I'm a grower so obviously my penis played turtle and was basically just a big wrinkle on my crotch
Jaxson Morris
so what if we just call the total absence of benefit the instance at which a majority of harms (the remainder of which represent a negligible value) remain unresolved at any moment?
Lincoln Foster
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH I THINK SHE LIKES ME BUT I HAVE NO WAY OF FINDING OUT AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH We've talked casually at uni before but now it's only one class a week and I dont get a chance after class because she walks out with one of the other hoes. QUICK TELL ME HOW TO CHAT TO GIRLS ON FACEBOOK
Moments and instants don't actually exist in reality. They are facsimiles we have created to be able to comprehend the nature of being.
A moment would have to actually 'BE' both before and after itself, think about it.
Say we take two seconds. When is the first second 'over' at? Is it the instant that 2nd second starts or is it right before that? If it's right before that, then it is still part of the first second, and thus it isn't over. If it is after, then the first second would end during the 2nd one.
If you say it is between the first and 2nd seconds, that is even worse, since then it would be neither!
Essentially what I'm getting at is that for that moment you speak of to be an example of the absence of benefit, it would need to be on a timeframe you say, like a moment/instance and that is a time of zero seconds.
Moments/instances are a static three dimensional slice of the four dimensional pie we live in, and for all intents and purposes are equivalent to nonexistence.
Luis Cooper
>Women will fuck women Nah, that is mutual masturbation.
I don't know about others but in my experience it's just looking for monogamy in a casual dating world.
Ayden Cook
Not a virgin btw, but a relationship is very hard to come by.
Bentley Adams
she's actually not in an original way, newfag
Cameron Adams
Time obviously exists, it's just that its not possible to discretely divide it into 'moments'.
There might not be a practical benefit to dying half a fraction of a second faster than you possibly could have, while suffering, but it's not the absence of benefit.
Colton Perez
Sex is a meme I agree.. unless you're attracted to her it's shit. I'm content because I have what I need @ the moment and live how I choose.
Chase Clark
I didn't divide it into discrete moments tho. I just cut it off at a certain point, In fact, you're pretty dumb if you think discrete moments are an essential part of my argument.
Christopher Long
>you can't
can't say that I "can't" until I try
Colton Nguyen
I'd just like to say that I've never attacked your intelligence, just your ideas. I actually am 'almost' enjoying this, but I'm too autistic sadly
>so what if we just call the total absence of benefit the instance at which a majority of harms (the remainder of which represent a negligible value) remain unresolved at any moment?
You used the words instant, and moment, and just used 'point'. You can't just cut off time at a point is what I was trying to get at.
There is never any one time where you can say that there is an absence of benefit that has a duration.
Caleb Torres
And by almost enjoying this, I mean our conversation as equals where I respect you and your ideas enough to debate them.