What degrees have decent job opportunities and good social life?

>Pharmacy is completely flooded, hours are getting cut and wages are being reduced across the board.
Lol where here the do you live?

>Business and finance degrees, that's about it.
I'd say to stay away from business degrees, they're pretty up there on the meme scale of uselessness.

But, really, the ultimate is to not have a degree define your future. Pick what you want to do AFTER school and then tailor your schooling to that goal. Not the other way around.

Business and finance is incredibly easy though, average IQ is 90-100 which means it can become extremely oversaturated really quickly.

The fact it's extremely easy is why it's a great choice. You will never have to work hard in these domains, even if you're borderline retarded. Yet it pays out tons. Job market for people with these degrees will never shrink even for one month, it will constantly increase so long as earth population increases. It can't saturate at all.

Biology is a surprisingly good degree; a lot of jobs in biotechnology.

I do Geophysics. Decent jobs in the oil industry desu.

that's why if you're smart at all you'll excel at both, plus as they're paid out the ass so going the extra mile and dedicating to it will get you a nice job

LOL, you're delusional

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>What degrees have decent job opportunities and good social life?
None, women only go for meme degrees because they're brainlets and they're gonna get some beta provider anyway, just take a STEM degree if you want actual job prospects in the future

As an older robot, you are a man now, don't listen to your fucking mother and do what you want most user.
If graphic design is more your thing then fucking go for it. Every year gone is a year you will never get back, you dont want to look back at 4 years of university and realize you spent it doing a degree you didnt enjoy to end up in a job you hate.

nursing degree

always in demand

True but payment is shitty. The job can also be pretty exhausting being the lapdog of the doctors.

you can specialise or become a nurse practioner or other higher paying opitions with a bit more education, it's not a dead end moneywise

better with a job you hate than no job

Dont get psychology. I majored in it because it is the only thing besides philosophy that interests me. Women destroyed it. As a general rule you pick something where there are nearly no women and you cant lose. I dont regret studying it as I genuinely wanted to have a career in it but its impossible now because fking women pick it "just because I like helping people" and now its shit. Wish I could get those underpaid jobs where you diagnose kids and then try therapy but that profession became only for the rich girls here. No wonder the mental health care is shit.

If nothing else remember that everything women touch is destroyed. The only exception is medicine. But if you dont want it and pick it just because of career prospects be careful. You may fail or will hate your life all day every day. Things are so competitive these days and the market is so unpredictable that there is really no point in even trying as once you graduate in those years your degree may become shit. I absolutely love how when I was in high school so long again I picked the one which had market value and after few years it shifted and it became worthless.

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It's impossible to get real biology jobs in industry without a phd though. You can get lab monkey 40k/y jobs but that's about it.

She wanted me to do medical mechanical engineering because my cousin got that job 2 years ago.
I think she is also jealous. She kept rubbing in my face that he has cars, money, a house, a future.

I kept telling her I'm not smart and she just compared all of the courses I wanted to do to a toilet cleaner, and guess what she did hurt my feelings.
I don't hate computer engineering, it's just the course feels out of date plus we are only studying Java.

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I wish I wasn't so stupid and poor. I am never going to get any degree and am sentenced to life of poverty and pain.

not true at all, this must be what delusional wagies tell themselves

According to everyone in this thread, all the degrees are essentially worthless.

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Let me drop some serious truth on you; do what you think you're best at, even if it's not an amazing degree. The whole "any degree that isn't STEM, law, medicine or buisseness is worthless" meme is 100% false. Other shit like GPA, skillsets, where you went and networking are also super important, so if you have a 2.0 GPA in IT from some flyover university, you're probably worse off then you would be if you had a 3.6 in communications or something. The only degrees you should be seriously hesitant to pursue are fine arts.

The great majority of degrees are worthless in the great majority of cases because the job market is completely and utterly fucked. However, that's not what this thread is about. It's about degree + social life, which eliminates 99% of useful degrees in the first place.

Networking is critical, but nobody ever gives a shit about gpa unless you're going into accademia. However people do care deeply about degrees. The one who's 100% false is you.

Ironic isn't it.

My class mate told me 2 days ago, you're not guaranteed a job.

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Your mom doesn't know shit about career prospects for different fields, she just sees one guy she knows who's doing well in a particular field and decides she wants to keep up with the Joneses vicariously via you

>the job market is even worse. Not only are there no women, everyone's a poo in loo.
Only if you're a brainlet code monkey. If you're actually talented, you'll be fine.

Pretty much. A degree is more of an entry barrier than an opportunity nowadays, and you'll hardly learn anything you couldn't learn by yourself (you'll learn it all by yourself anyway, just get tested on it)

Study turf management at the university of minnesota. you basically become boss for 100's of mexicans at golf courses but you make like 60k per year when you get out of easy af 4yr degree

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I've been browsing these threads a lot in the past 3 years ever since high school ended and I became a NEET. The general gist seems to be that uni just fucking sucks unless you are extremely charismatic and can network or extremely smart and obsessive about your chosen subject. ideally both.

If I chose to study STEM id feel like a brainlet in comparison to the other students, hate my life and drop out, if I studied the humanities i'd enjoy it, get my worthless degree and hate my life.

I really want to believe in memes like 'it's just how much effort you put in!' but it really does not seem that way at all. Even if you go full autist and do a degree with the maximum job oppurtunities if it puts you in debt just to get a job that makes you want to be dead then whats the point in doing it

I have the same reasoning. I picked a degree I was interested in just because but I know I couldnt do better so I thought why not. Its not like I will get any more depressed or anything. If I worked or got the degree my situation would be the same or very close to it so I just got it.

being NEET is a temporary solution to an inevitable problem, unless you are rich, you're going to have to evenually work a shit job, pick something and do it.

Are there any college majors a brain let whos bad at math could do ? I want to go to college but I'm afraid I'll fail

computer engineering masterrace reporting in!!!

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i read 'degrees' as 'cigarettes'
winston reds in that case

literally anything involving aeronautics

Get a degree from a college with a prestigious aviation program, expatriate to an Asian country (where the Aviation sector is booming, Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong all good targets), and get paid big bucks to soar through the skies flying big jets (aim for the 777, 787 if you want to be a Chad) and travel foreign lands

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I'm going to law school in the fall. I received a substantial scholarship that's worth almost the entire cost of tuition, otherwise I probably wouldn't have considered it.

What this guy said. What can you do when you're bad at math ?

I'm going with an English bachelor's degree. It's good for me since I'm planing on being an ESL instructor overseas.

Learn C++ with comp eng if you want to make $300k a year doing machine learning and artificial intelligence. I know multiple people in comp eng and cs who do this and are working 40hrs/week or less making 6 figures. C

Nobody uses c++ in ml, retard. It's all python all the way down.

>Nobody uses C++
This is just incorrect. Don't know what to tell you. Python is probably more popular now but C++ is still pretty big.
One of my professors uses C++, python, TensorFlow for machine learning and made over $4mil in research grants last year. Learn C++ first, then learn the others.

t. literally so removed from the world of ml he wouldn't know how to spell it if his life depended on it

Chemistry atm I think is pretty safe.
It's not like IT where everyone is easily replaceable

Why do you think this is a good board to ask?

Do something that'll keep you happy
>really want to believe in memes
Don't. Seriously.

I don't work in machine learning so maybe I'm wrong somewhere. I found this graph on the first 12 or so sites when I googled "Machine learning language popularity." C++ according to this is still number 4.

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First problem is the use of the "or data science" clause. Data science is effectively the part where you manually do the job of the machine learning algorithm because you're a discount version of someone who works with ml due to the company trying to cheap out. For that job, people use whatever language is popular because it doesn't matter. This is how you have R, java, and javascript so high.
Your personal mistake, is assuming that it means anything for C++ to be 4th. If the real distribution is 99.99999% python, rest every other language, the fact that C++ is 4th or 1000th doesn't really make a difference. Note that many ML jobs will typically not mention language at all.
The third mistake is to take such a broad classifier. The kind of job that typically has "language" + "machine learning" or "data science" is software engineer for machine learning-based projects. In these positions, you are expected to write a web service which will serve a machine learning model's predictions, e.g.. It has nothing to do with working with machine learning, though, it's standard webdev stuff. Another very popular role in that optic is maintaining and developing the inhouse runtime for machine learning models (basically every company has their own platform, the researchers build their models on pytorch (used to be mostly theano with a few using torch due to lua being too arcane for people, now it's overwhelmingly pytorch with a small group, usually engineers, who use tf) with some piss-poor inhouse solutions that are broken to shit, don't really work outside what people have been specifically working on, where every single org write their own version from scratch - in a similar way that m$ has BigLearn, cntk, and at least 2 others; and after the research team is done, the engineering team uses an inhouse conversion tool from the researcher's favorite framework to the inhouse runtime which is suitable to use in embedded devices like cars and phones, etc.)

Optometry.

>Ask patient to sit in front of refractometer.
>Aim with joystick. Click for each eye.
>Ask patient to sit in front of fundus camera.
>Enter patient data. Click for each eye.
>Pull out the Ishihara booklet to check color vision.
>Pretend like you are doing actual work.
>1 minute later, bill patient for $100.
>If at any point you suspect something is off, refer patient to ophthalmologist. Problem solved.
>Sell them glasses to make even more $$$.
>Self-employed. Low stress.

OK that makes sense. Like I said I'm not in ml so I guess I was mislead into thinking C++ was still popular.

Medical/biomedical engineering is a meme degree.

Industry prefers to hire mechanical engineers, or electrical engineers, or computer engineers, but none of this interdisciplinary shit that schools and parents keep trying to push onto kids.

On average, bottom of the barrel computer engineers will find better jobs than the best students coming out of STEM. This is a fact.

STEM is a meme also. Not to mention, worthless degree without a PhD.

Computer engineering IS stem though.

Any branch of engineering, I guess. I'm an engineer now and it's pretty solid.

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This user gets it. Yes, degrees are fucking useless. Even STEM.

t. Fizicks major

I always thought STEM was a meme-word for fields with relevance to technology but which are not actually engineering... eg. physics, chemistry, math, comp sci, etc

Because you know,
>Engineering is engineering.

>STEM is a meme also. Not to mention, worthless degree without a PhD.
Lies. You can easily get a good-paying job with only a bachelors level in an stem field.

it's not about degrees, it's about being Chad you nigger

The E in stem literally means engineering, retard.

But typically not a job in your field (though there are of course exceptions).

if you want girls, biology and chemistry are safe bets. lots of medical school or pharmacy school bound girls there.

Not to mention, you have retarded leftist countries like Canada, where:
> In 2016, more than half (54.0%) of Canadians aged 25 to 64 had either college or university qualifications.

And I used to TA these fucks. Half of them could not do simple algebra or write full sentences. Zero analytical ability. Half of their lab reports were identical. And the piece of shit colleges would let them graduate into society, flooding the market with worthless STEM degrees. It's all about the money. Money to pay the salaries of a growing number of administrators (mostly women). STEM degrees are worthless.

And after you graduate, you gotta make it past the HR department. Staffed by minority leftist women, who hire other women and visible minorities to fill a diversity quota. A normie applicant with half a brain conforms much more readily to company politics than a sperg from Jow Forums.

In computer science, yes. Not the others.

It doesn't matter what degree you have if you're ugly. You're screwed for life.

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How the fuck is that beta? This guy looks like he has superhuman tard strength. He has that look in his eyes. He would rip your weak ass body apart like paper. Holy fuck if I saw this guy I would stay the fuck away.

petroleum engineering is rad tho.

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Industrial engineering.

It's the business degree of the engineering world in terms of rigor, but you're an engineer and have a built in-MBA, basically.

Just look where most students are white and male

Did finance from a state school. Made 70k right after graduation. Just don't fuck around and actually work and you can get a decent job.

uhh any advice for a 1st year CS student?

About making lots of money without going to grad school? Go web dev or quant (it's about the electives). Go internships during summer (your school usually has a program to help with this, ask them). Note that finance sector people are huge snobs (and kinda retarded) so they will very heavily care about your GPA (much more so than your actual knowledge and non-direct experience, in my experience). Getting an internship in such a company can help mitigate this effect significantly, they're a lot less picky for interns. Banks can be good because they usually have superb pension plans (where I am anyway) on top of paying really well. Quant also allows you to do the aforementioned software development for ML type of work. If that's what you'd like to do in particular, knowing about gpu programming can give you an edge (though I suspect this will become less true over time).

Webdev allows you to do contract work, and generally allows you to copy-paste easily 90%+ of what you need to do. Very few actual work hours involved, which allows you to bill the company who hires you a shitload per hour. You can easily do many contracts simultaneously, which will net you tons of money, or you can take it easy, as you want. You can also get work anywhere in the world and work remotely at all time.

If you want to do ML research, you have to get a PhD. You could luck out with just an MSc at some startup, but as soon as they sell or go bankrupt, you'll be neet until you go PhD.
On the flipside, if you can go directly into a PhD program after your BSc, you can do internships in industry while you work on your PhD. Because of the bubble, such internships are pretty much paid the same as a full-time position per time-unit (however your arrangements might differ - from working 1/5 days to working full-time for 9 months).

Otherwise, normal soft jobs are said to be fairly easy to find. Pay is usually decent to good, and usually excellent among fresh-out-of-college options.

Should I study philosophy guys? LOL

STEM is the only chance for someone without social skills so it gives me more of a chance than any other job where they'd fire me for being awkward.

No they aren't. All the good paying jobs demand one in the job postings.